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00:00:26 The following is an interpretation
00:00:29 Baniszewski v. The State of Indiana, 1966.
00:00:33 All testimonies comes
00:00:45 I used to love the carnival.
00:00:49 Daddy worked all the fairs
00:00:52 and candy apple.
00:00:55 Always looking for something better.
00:00:58 Sometimes mama would follow him...
00:01:01 sometimes he even take us.
00:01:05 It was always a new adventure...
00:01:07 with a whole new family,
00:01:10 I figured Jennie and me, were...
00:01:11 the luckiest girls in the world.
00:01:16 My favorite was the merry-go-round...
00:01:19 Maybe I was a little
00:01:22 all those other rides
00:01:29 The merry-go-round, just goes
00:01:36 It don't go anywhere,
00:01:59 That's me on the left.
00:02:02 Sylvia.
00:02:05 And that's my story.
00:02:21 I'm a Prostitute and proud of it.
00:02:44 Would you please state your name.
00:02:46 Lester Likens.
00:02:48 Are you married to Betty Likens?
00:02:50 Yes.
00:02:52 Did you and your wife ever separate?
00:02:54 Yes.
00:02:56 What period of time did that occur?
00:02:59 The last week in June 1965.
00:03:02 She was at Euclid street,
00:03:06 Where were the children?
00:03:08 Jennie Faye and Silvia Marie
00:03:17 Do you think,
00:03:19 Sure we will.
00:03:21 Well, maybe there'll be
00:03:23 They're supposed to be cute.
00:03:25 Come on girls, you don't
00:03:30 Hey!
00:03:31 Daddy?
00:03:32 - Hey, Jennie.
00:03:35 Well, I missed you girls.
00:03:37 Hi Betty, can I talk
00:03:41 You know, I've been talking
00:03:44 that we could maybe play our own
00:03:47 Then maybe we could make
00:03:48 I told Lester, that I
00:03:50 not with the girls.
00:03:52 Maybe my mother will take them.
00:03:54 I can't move them up there again.
00:03:56 They haven't even had a chance
00:03:59 Betty, maybe we wouldn't fight
00:04:03 Mama?
00:04:04 You two, go on ahead and
00:04:07 I've gotta settle things
00:04:17 See what love the
00:04:21 and we are called children of god.
00:04:25 And so we are!
00:04:28 But how does a child,
00:04:31 How does the father,
00:04:34 Christ said: I am the way.
00:04:38 Come on to the father, but by me.
00:04:42 Our families,
00:04:47 It is only through Christ,
00:04:50 And it's only through Christ,
00:05:01 Oh, that's a beautiful dress, Hope.
00:05:04 Oh, thank you, Gertrude.
00:05:06 And huh... I'm feeling much
00:05:09 and... you know anybody, that
00:05:12 I'd appreciate the work.
00:05:13 I'll do that.
00:05:15 Thank you.
00:05:24 What happened to your leg?
00:05:25 That's not nice, Shirley!
00:05:27 That's alright, she's used to it.
00:05:29 - So what is it?
00:05:33 Polio?
00:05:34 Does that hurt?
00:05:37 Our mama is a sick too.
00:05:39 All right girls!
00:05:42 We gotta go.
00:05:43 Can they come with us?
00:05:46 You wanna come? We've got
00:05:48 and you can meet our older sister.
00:05:51 - Let's do.
00:06:08 Guess who got stuck with
00:06:10 - Did you get paid?
00:06:12 Got a little extra for dinner.
00:06:14 Here, take the baby.
00:06:16 Where'd they come from?
00:06:18 What's this?
00:06:20 We invited them to stay and play.
00:06:22 We'll be quiet.
00:06:24 All right, make sure of it.
00:06:30 I really like this song.
00:06:32 What's your dad do?
00:06:34 He is cop, they are divorced.
00:06:36 Do you miss him any?
00:06:37 Nah, I just miss his money.
00:06:38 - But, Paula!
00:06:40 Maybe, if he's more
00:06:42 Mom wouldn't be so sick...
00:06:44 and I wouldn't have to work so hard.
00:06:46 Little Kenny's got a different daddy.
00:06:47 - Who's little Kenny?
00:06:49 But we ain't supposed
00:06:51 Auh!
00:06:54 Finished!
00:06:55 Wow! You should do this for a living.
00:06:57 Yeah, if she was old enough.
00:06:59 You want me to do yours?
00:07:00 Oh, no, thanks.
00:07:02 Yeah, she's the pretty one.
00:07:03 Yeah, she's got nice hair.
00:07:05 - I'm pretty too.
00:07:07 Oh, let me see that brush.
00:07:09 I tell you what?
00:07:12 My boyfriend works over at the
00:07:15 Sure.
00:07:17 You girls behave!
00:07:20 We're goin' to groceries.
00:07:22 Tell Andy, he owes me
00:07:24 And don't be waistin'
00:07:26 He ain't a bag-boy, Mama!
00:07:27 Sort of wasted space.
00:07:30 - She don't like my boyfriend.
00:07:33 Hey, Johnny, quit it!
00:07:35 Sorry, Mrs. Doyle.
00:07:38 Hey!
00:07:39 You weren't at church today.
00:07:41 Coy and I headin' over there now.
00:07:42 Yeah, you better be.
00:07:44 Let's get outta here.
00:07:46 That's my sister Stephanie,
00:07:48 when she ain't wasting time
00:07:52 Oh, God.
00:07:54 Hey, Paula.
00:07:56 Mama was asking you for her money.
00:07:57 I bet she was.
00:07:59 Who's your friend?
00:08:00 Sylvia, but she don't talk to trash.
00:08:04 Excuse me.
00:08:05 That's my mama's ex boyfriend.
00:08:07 He's only 6 years older than me.
00:08:10 Just like her mom.
00:08:15 That's him.
00:08:17 That's my Bradley.
00:08:19 He's real cute.
00:08:23 We got both to be real
00:08:26 Why?
00:08:28 Because he's married.
00:08:31 I'm not even shittin' you, no!
00:08:34 Paula!
00:08:37 Don't tell me you never
00:08:40 Ah, well, there was this guy
00:08:45 I guess it was nothing.
00:08:46 Well, at least you did
00:08:50 Well, aren't you just so damn pure.
00:08:53 Oh, come on.
00:08:59 Let's go!
00:09:02 This is Pleiku,
00:09:05 The Air Force Base,
00:09:07 by Communist Guerillas...
00:09:24 Marie!
00:09:26 I need you to feed little Kenny.
00:09:27 If I don't get this ironing to
00:09:31 - We're all out of milk.
00:09:33 They wont give us no more
00:09:35 They will, if you take the baby.
00:09:37 Hello!
00:09:39 Oh, hi, I'm sorry.
00:09:41 Huh, somebody said they
00:09:44 You got no family here in Indy?
00:09:46 Well, not that I could leave'm with.
00:09:50 'Cause of them or you?
00:09:52 A little of both.
00:09:55 Hi, Mrs. Baniszewski,
00:09:57 Upstairs.
00:09:58 Shut the door!
00:10:03 Looks like, you've got kids running
00:10:11 Why don't you leave Sylvia
00:10:16 No, I... I couldn't do that.
00:10:19 I got six kids, two more
00:10:22 Yeah, I guess that's true.
00:10:30 20 dollars a week and
00:10:37 You'd be helping me out too.
00:10:39 I could talk to
00:10:46 Something to consider.
00:10:49 Ah-ha...
00:10:52 So, you'd never met Gertrude
00:10:56 No, Sir.
00:10:58 But, you were willing to leave your
00:11:03 Well, like I said, huh...
00:11:05 we got to talking and...
00:11:07 she openly admitted, that she
00:11:10 and treat them like
00:11:14 Okay! Here is 20 now...
00:11:16 and huh... you'll have the next
00:11:19 I'll need that money.
00:11:21 You will have it.
00:11:22 Johnny, bring the box upstairs!
00:11:24 Okay, sweetheart,
00:11:26 I sure don't want you go.
00:11:28 The circuit will be down and
00:11:31 That's only 2 months.
00:11:33 And I promise, I will be back,
00:11:36 Okay, kids.
00:11:40 - You be good!
00:11:41 Bye-bye.
00:11:44 Bye.
00:11:46 Bye, girls.
00:11:49 You girls make sure you get
00:11:51 Thank you.
00:11:53 Well, come on!
00:11:55 We'll help you unpack.
00:12:01 Wait, I'll help you.
00:12:22 Nothing to be nervous about.
00:12:24 Everyone's really nice here.
00:12:27 Hey, Paula, get your cherry
00:12:30 You sure didn't, Teddy,
00:12:33 Hey, come on Paula,
00:12:34 So, why don't you
00:12:37 Coy is okay, but Teddy is
00:12:40 Paula!
00:12:41 Those guys, they're always
00:12:44 I'm sure, she will be okay.
00:12:46 - You live with Paula and them?
00:12:49 Yeah, I saw you the other day.
00:12:53 I live right around the corner,
00:12:55 Sylvia.
00:12:56 Hey, there's a football game
00:12:58 if you'd be interested in that at all.
00:13:00 Oh, I don't like that much football.
00:13:02 Sylvia, come on!
00:13:04 Good bye!
00:13:10 It's me!
00:13:11 Hope, you brought my money.
00:13:13 Nice to see you too.
00:13:16 Came by to see my baby.
00:13:26 Hi!
00:13:27 Hey!
00:13:30 Leave him!
00:13:32 Well, I got my call-up papers.
00:13:39 Put him back in.
00:13:43 It took me all day to quiet him.
00:13:47 - Not in front of the baby!
00:13:50 I do!
00:13:55 Listen, I'll be getting
00:13:57 So, you'll be getting
00:14:02 Who's gonna take care of you?
00:14:06 Well, actually I was wondering...
00:14:09 if I could borrow a few dollars...
00:14:11 so I could visit my brother
00:14:17 If I had the money,
00:14:20 I saw your new boarders.
00:14:22 Don't tell me, you're
00:14:24 I had to take them in,
00:14:26 I ain't paying for
00:14:28 You ain't paying for no...
00:14:34 I'm sorry, Gertie.
00:14:36 I'm sorry.
00:14:46 So, how was the
00:14:49 Well, I made
00:14:51 See, we're not such bad people,
00:14:55 Can you, pick up the kids
00:14:58 There's something I have
00:14:59 Yeah, is everything alright?
00:15:00 Just tell mama, I picked up
00:15:03 Sure.
00:15:06 You know, Paula is looking more
00:15:10 Lucky girl.
00:15:13 Should watch her, though.
00:15:16 She's been hanging out
00:15:19 I hate to think, what'll happen.
00:15:22 His wife's got a bad temper.
00:15:32 You think, that I can
00:15:39 There's a 20 in the top drawer.
00:16:01 Where do you live Mrs. Doyle?
00:16:03 3848 East New York.
00:16:05 You can almost reach out of
00:16:08 and touch Baniszewski's
00:16:10 It's not that close.
00:16:11 Because of the experience,
00:16:13 Mrs. Baniszewski having there.
00:16:16 Did you develop any bias, or
00:16:19 No, I felt sorry for the lady.
00:16:21 I felt she was a hard working
00:16:24 Ever entertain any guilt feelings,
00:16:28 Oh, no, I can't judge her.
00:16:31 I beg your pardon?
00:16:33 I can't judge her.
00:16:37 - Would you like to say prayer, Sylvia?
00:16:42 Bless this food we eat,
00:16:44 us from our sins, amen.
00:16:46 Amen!
00:16:52 Somebody get out there,
00:16:54 Yeah, mama.
00:17:01 Sorry, I'm late.
00:17:02 Where you been?
00:17:04 I took up the shift
00:17:09 I told you, I didn't want you
00:17:11 - and I mean it.
00:17:13 Don't lie to me, Paula.
00:17:16 What? Was he here?
00:17:19 - That's none of your business.
00:17:21 me to make the same
00:17:32 I said, feed that dog!
00:17:38 Johnny, feed the dog!
00:17:52 What's wrong, Paula?
00:17:56 I've got problems, Sylvia.
00:18:00 Big problems.
00:18:05 With Bradley?
00:18:12 I went to the doctor, today.
00:18:17 I'm pregnant.
00:18:25 You know the guy is married,
00:18:28 I know, he wouldn't want a baby.
00:18:30 I don't know a
00:18:35 Well, you... you gotta tell him.
00:18:38 I can't.
00:18:41 Well, I think you gotta.
00:18:45 You gotta promise me, that you
00:18:50 Not a word, until I figure out
00:18:57 Yeah, I promise.
00:19:02 It's gonna be okay.
00:20:05 Mama?
00:20:13 Mama!
00:20:25 I want you all, upstairs!
00:20:28 Come on.
00:20:31 Except for you two!
00:20:34 I want you down in the basement!
00:20:52 Your daddy’s' check
00:20:55 Oh, it's probably just late.
00:20:57 I know my Mama, she wouldn't
00:21:01 You know what I think?
00:21:03 I just took care of you two,
00:21:08 I think your mama and daddy...
00:21:11 left you here for good.
00:21:13 They wouldn't do that.
00:21:15 Keep your mouth shut!
00:21:22 Lean over those.
00:21:25 Go on, lean over.
00:21:43 - No!
00:21:45 - Oh, no!
00:21:47 - Gertie!
00:21:49 - No, let go of me!
00:22:13 Okay.
00:22:16 Come on.
00:22:25 Okay.
00:22:33 I need that money.
00:22:52 Come on, Jennie...
00:22:57 It's not like, we never
00:23:03 You know, that check's gonna
00:23:24 - Johnny!
00:23:26 Stop that!
00:23:28 Stop, hurting me!
00:23:29 I'm 15, I should be able to come.
00:23:32 Well, somebody's gotta play
00:23:36 I wonder if Bradley
00:23:40 Freedom was in jeopardy...
00:23:43 when the struggling
00:23:46 almost to their knees,
00:23:50 When William Westmoreland,
00:23:55 $20.00.
00:23:57 His mission was to deny
00:24:00 Please give us a call.
00:24:02 It was a mission, simple
00:24:06 But to execute that mission...
00:24:09 he had to fight the most
00:24:11 in all American history.
00:24:13 What're you gonna see tonight,
00:24:15 Well, they ain't gonna
00:24:17 The only thing she'll be seeing...
00:24:19 is Coys hand, while
00:24:21 I might not be pushing to hard.
00:24:22 Yeah, yeah, princess Grace...
00:24:24 you'd scream, if he
00:24:26 That's not true, Paula,
00:24:28 Don't give Sylvia
00:24:31 Look, I shot his eye out.
00:24:33 Why'd you do that?
00:24:35 Johnny! Get outta here!
00:24:37 You're dead!
00:24:39 That's insane.
00:24:42 Listen, God! This is crap!
00:24:44 There is nothing ever to do,
00:24:48 It ain't that bad, Teddy.
00:24:50 Yeah, it is.
00:24:53 Howdy!
00:24:59 You know?
00:25:02 but, I'm staying up,
00:25:04 He's parents ain't
00:25:07 They don't give a shit.
00:25:09 Do they?
00:25:11 - You like it here?
00:25:14 He's here.
00:25:16 I'll be right back.
00:25:18 Maybe you shouldn't.
00:25:26 Hey!
00:25:28 Ricky.
00:25:29 You shouldn't sneak
00:25:31 I'm sorry.
00:25:33 Hey, the nursery is
00:25:36 You might wanna get back,
00:25:38 I brought some favors.
00:25:40 Give me some of that!
00:25:46 What're you doing here?
00:25:47 - I wanted to see you.
00:25:51 I just be right back.
00:25:55 Good!
00:25:57 I already told you, my wife is
00:25:59 So that's it. Okay?
00:26:01 Now, be a good girl,
00:26:07 You know, my Mama's
00:26:10 I'm starting to believe her.
00:26:12 You should listen to your
00:26:16 You know, you don't mean that.
00:26:18 Lay off me!
00:26:19 Get off me!
00:26:20 - No!
00:26:22 - Is this what you want, huh?
00:26:25 - Hey! Stop!
00:26:27 It's private fool, no invitation.
00:26:30 She is pregnant!
00:26:38 Don't try to pull that shit on me!
00:26:42 There ain't no way.
00:26:46 Stay away.
00:26:50 Paula, I'm so sorry.
00:26:52 - You're gonna pay for this!
00:27:00 Is everything okay?
00:27:02 Would you quit following me!
00:27:16 Paula?
00:27:19 Honey, you're crying!
00:27:20 - Mom!
00:27:23 I ain't talking to him anymore.
00:27:26 Oh, that's a good girl,
00:27:32 You know, we're gonna find
00:27:35 Not like Andy, or your daddy.
00:27:38 But Sylvia said...
00:27:41 What?
00:27:46 She telling horrible lies,
00:27:53 What kind of lies?
00:28:00 She's telling everyone,
00:28:06 You should have seen those
00:28:08 that I was a slut.
00:28:11 Sylvia said that?.
00:28:21 Don't worry, Baby.
00:28:24 Don't worry.
00:28:32 Did you ever hear Sylvia, use
00:28:37 No, Sir.
00:28:38 Do you know how often Sylvia went
00:28:42 She'd go every time we went.
00:28:44 - Does Sylvia have a bible?
00:28:47 Did she dress up nice and clean?
00:28:49 Yes, Sir.
00:28:50 As Mathew said:
00:28:55 For the gate is wide and
00:28:58 that leads to destruction...
00:29:01 and those who enter by it,
00:29:05 When the gate is narrow
00:29:09 that leads to life...
00:29:11 and those who find it, are few.
00:29:32 Jennie, come sit with me!
00:29:54 We gotta go upstairs and change.
00:29:58 I want you all down here.
00:30:01 Family-meeting.
00:30:05 It's a lesson for all of you.
00:30:23 You need to apologize to Paula.
00:30:32 But Gertie, I... I don't know...
00:30:33 I want you to apologize.
00:30:35 What she'd done, mama?
00:30:38 She's been spreading lies
00:30:41 I...
00:30:49 I'm sorry.
00:30:52 Paula, you have the right,
00:30:56 What you wanna do?
00:30:59 I want you to punish her, mama.
00:31:03 You have to learn to fight
00:31:05 - Get over there.
00:31:08 I said I was sorry.
00:31:10 I don't care what you said.
00:31:14 Go on, she's got it coming.
00:31:23 Let her go!
00:31:25 I'm sure, she
00:31:34 I am not.
00:31:36 I will not.
00:31:38 - I am not.
00:31:42 Damn it!
00:31:44 Enough, that's okay!
00:31:49 Get up.
00:31:50 Get up! Get up!
00:31:56 She's learned her lesson.
00:31:58 That's what happens
00:32:02 Go on!
00:32:14 You too, get!
00:32:38 Are you awake?
00:32:45 You're okay?
00:32:50 Did you say your prayers yet?
00:32:56 How about mamas favorite psalm?
00:33:04 Turn on to me, and be
00:33:09 for I am lonely and affected.
00:33:12 Release the chalice of my heart...
00:33:15 and bring me out
00:33:20 Consider how many are my foes...
00:33:24 Thank you.
00:33:25 I will put my fate in thee...
00:33:29 make my life in to a better me.
00:33:34 I will not think of the shame.
00:33:37 I take refuge in thee!
00:33:42 and take thee in greatness be sure.
00:33:49 Amen.
00:34:09 - I hear, your sister's pregnant.
00:34:11 - Who's the guy?
00:34:15 I didn't say it.
00:34:18 A lotta people are talking.
00:34:44 Why aren't you in school?
00:34:56 You, huh... doing okay?
00:35:00 Yeah.
00:35:01 It's, huh... Sylvia, right?
00:35:04 Yeah.
00:35:06 Eric.
00:35:08 I, huh... I've
00:35:10 Yeah, that's me.
00:35:13 You're going to the, huh...
00:35:17 Well, huh... I hope so.
00:35:19 Okay.
00:35:20 Maybe I'll see you there.
00:35:26 Huh... I'm gonna go.
00:35:28 Okay.
00:35:33 Why was Mama so upset
00:35:36 You haven't heard?
00:35:38 I told everyone,
00:35:40 That's not true, is it?
00:35:44 There's some worse rumors
00:35:50 Do you think, she's pregnant?
00:35:53 - What do you think?
00:36:06 Thanks.
00:36:09 How's your mama?
00:36:12 Okay.
00:36:14 She still in the hospital?
00:36:16 Yeah.
00:36:23 Who's taking care of you?
00:36:28 I am.
00:36:32 Oh, you don't have a girlfriend?
00:36:37 I don't know.
00:36:38 - You don't know?
00:36:40 And, huh... does she know?
00:36:46 You wanna a sip?
00:36:48 I ain't old enough.
00:36:52 You ain't old enough
00:36:55 and that's not stopping you.
00:37:02 Jennie?
00:37:04 I think, we should call mom and dad.
00:37:07 How we're supposed to do that?
00:37:09 Here, I found this in the trash.
00:37:18 So, huh... how long's Sylvia
00:37:23 You got a crush on Sylvia?
00:37:33 She is pretty.
00:37:36 When I was in high-school...
00:37:38 I was popular with the boys
00:37:44 I believe you.
00:37:47 Thank you.
00:37:50 Oh, are you warm.
00:37:58 What're you doing home
00:38:01 I'm not feeling real good.
00:38:04 Paula?
00:38:07 You better go.
00:38:10 Alright, you first.
00:38:12 Hello?
00:38:13 - Mama?
00:38:16 I was afraid, you didn't
00:38:17 Oh, mama, we miss you so much.
00:38:20 Oh, I miss you too, Honey.
00:38:21 I'm gonna pick you up in 2 weeks.
00:38:23 So, how is everything going there?
00:38:27 Oh, Gertrude's awful strict, mama.
00:38:30 We got in a whole
00:38:32 What do you mean?
00:38:34 What's goin' on? These girls
00:38:36 - Let me talk to'm.
00:38:37 because your check's late.
00:38:39 Our check was late?
00:38:40 No, it wasn't.
00:38:41 Let me talk to her.
00:38:43 Oh, we gotta go.
00:38:44 Sylvia?
00:38:46 Sylvia!
00:38:49 They're coming, mama.
00:39:00 Calling your boyfriend, Sylvia?
00:39:03 No.
00:39:04 Nobody special.
00:39:06 We miss our parents.
00:39:09 Thank you, Jennie.
00:39:12 Where'd you get the money to
00:39:14 I was picking up empty bottles
00:39:18 Honest, that's all she did.
00:39:35 What she's gonna do?
00:39:37 What she always does, when
00:39:41 Are you gonna lie to me again?
00:39:43 - No, Gertie, I...
00:39:46 I didn't steal from you, Gertie.
00:39:49 What you'd... call your parents,
00:39:52 Gertie doesn't treat you right?
00:39:54 No, ma'am.
00:39:57 Alright.
00:40:00 I'm sorry!
00:40:02 I'm sorry!
00:40:10 Okay, okay, that's a good girl,
00:40:17 You wanna put some ice on that.
00:40:29 Now, I think you stated, Marie,
00:40:32 you'd volunteered, that Paula
00:40:36 Every time she looked at her,
00:40:39 Do you know, what the
00:40:42 Angry at someone.
00:40:44 Can you assign a reason...
00:40:46 to, why Paula might shoot Sylvia,
00:40:53 I guess, because Sylvia thought...
00:40:55 she was so much more important,
00:40:58 Do you remember a time, when you
00:41:01 and had little sandwiches
00:41:08 I haven't seen you eat
00:41:12 Oh, I'm sorry, Mrs. Orbach,
00:41:15 What's with your arm, Paula?
00:41:18 I lost my temper, with Sylvia.
00:41:21 So, what'd you mean,
00:41:26 She's been doing some real
00:41:29 I had to be real strict with her.
00:41:34 Come on, its Ok.
00:41:37 Don't take too much.
00:41:40 Hey, what're you doing here?
00:41:41 Came out, for the free food.
00:41:43 And the women.
00:41:45 I hope you don't want
00:41:48 - So, John Senior has...
00:41:51 Bradley send me.
00:41:53 About Paula.
00:41:57 - Did you say hi to the baby yet?
00:42:03 - Look, about yesterday...
00:42:06 - Sylvia, I'm really...
00:42:07 Mama, be back by the
00:42:18 Hey.
00:42:20 Hi.
00:42:22 A couple of my friends, are eating
00:42:26 - Sure.
00:42:28 Sylvia!
00:42:30 - Just one second.
00:42:35 Ricky, remember what I said
00:42:39 Did you say something?
00:42:41 No.
00:42:43 Because people are talking...
00:42:44 and Stephanie and
00:42:47 No, no, I wouldn't do
00:42:50 I better go.
00:42:57 I understand she's pregnant?
00:43:00 He says, he's willing to
00:43:02 Be quiet, keep your
00:43:04 If Paula's willing to go through
00:43:08 Here.
00:43:13 There's not gonna be an abortion,
00:43:16 He didn't even know about it.
00:43:17 But, Sylvia is the one saying it.
00:43:20 That girl's been nothing but trouble
00:43:25 If anyone is pregnant,
00:43:33 I gotta go.
00:43:35 Bye, Kenny.
00:43:37 Bye.
00:43:41 He'll be back, baby.
00:43:43 Hey!
00:43:47 Coming over to hang out
00:43:56 I've got some advice for you.
00:43:59 I wouldn't come between
00:44:01 She won't like it much.
00:44:03 Alright.
00:44:11 You okay, Gertie?
00:44:14 Yeah, I'm fine.
00:44:18 A bunch of us, gonna cruise the
00:44:23 Sure, I probably should
00:44:27 You sure?
00:44:30 Come on, let's get outta here!
00:44:38 Looks like Sylvia's going
00:44:41 You sound surprised,
00:44:44 You shouldn't be.
00:44:48 Let me do that!
00:44:52 You can try, Patty.
00:44:58 You sure you can't come,
00:45:02 No, I'm... I'm late as it is.
00:45:06 Let's go!
00:45:11 Well, I guess, I'll see you
00:45:26 Shut that door.
00:45:40 I dought, I thought you a lesson.
00:45:48 I don't understand.
00:45:50 Apparently, you've been telling
00:45:57 I haven't told any lies.
00:46:04 - And then you flirt with, Andy.
00:46:07 I saw you!
00:46:14 No matter what you want,
00:46:20 No, Gertie, we were just talking.
00:46:26 That's all.
00:46:33 Who's in charge here?
00:46:35 You are, mama.
00:46:36 That's right, Baby.
00:46:47 Paula, told me about those
00:46:52 Ricky, did Sylvia tell you, about
00:46:57 No.
00:47:01 Well' if you won't listen to me...
00:47:02 maybe I can get you to
00:47:05 Keep her from making
00:47:08 Jennie...
00:47:09 do you wanna be like your sister?
00:47:15 No, ma'am.
00:47:18 That's a good girl.
00:47:52 Patty, then what did
00:47:55 She handed her a bottle...
00:47:57 and told her to pull all her skirt.
00:47:59 And then?
00:48:01 And then, she said
00:48:06 Did Sylvia say anything, when
00:48:11 All she said was...
00:48:13 I can't.
00:48:15 What did Mrs. Baniszewski say?
00:48:17 She said...
00:48:18 Come on, you can do
00:48:20 And what did Sylvia do?
00:48:22 What Gertie told her to.
00:48:26 What the hell is going on?
00:48:29 Somebody, clean up the mess!
00:48:31 Sylvia, get upstairs!
00:48:33 Coy, get her up there!
00:48:38 Wait!
00:48:39 I will not have her in the
00:48:42 Take her to the basement!
00:48:44 Please, I'm sorry, I'm sorry!
00:48:46 - Open the door, Johnny!
00:48:50 Get her outta here!
00:48:52 No! Noooo...
00:48:54 It's best to stay
00:48:58 Don't worry, Jennie,
00:49:01 - She won't go down.
00:50:01 Hey, Marie!
00:50:34 Sylvia.
00:50:37 Sylvia.
00:50:43 I'm sorry, Sylvia.
00:50:47 But, I'm to scared.
00:50:50 I've tried talking,
00:50:57 She... she said,
00:51:05 Jennie.
00:51:07 Mama wants you upstairs.
00:51:09 Family-meeting.
00:51:13 I'll do what I can.
00:51:16 She said now.
00:51:40 Stop hitting me!
00:51:42 Give me that!
00:51:44 Johnny, get me my medicine, please.
00:51:48 Oh, this area here,
00:51:52 Maybe we can move.
00:51:54 Where would we move to, Shirley?
00:51:56 I don't know.
00:51:58 I don't wanna move.
00:52:05 I had a call with
00:52:08 Are they coming for us?
00:52:10 Well, they picked up the
00:52:12 so, they wont be here for you,
00:52:16 Their checks are coming
00:52:19 My ironing slowed down...
00:52:21 quite a bit.
00:52:23 So, we all have to work
00:52:26 Maybe, I can eat over at Coy's
00:52:30 Coy?
00:52:31 Mama, wont mind.
00:52:33 She likes Stephanie a lot.
00:52:35 Thank you.
00:52:39 Paula...
00:52:41 Baby, you gonna have to take
00:52:45 Maybe quit Tech for a while.
00:52:49 What about Stephanie?
00:52:51 - Why she have to go to school?
00:52:54 - Shut up, Johnny!
00:52:56 - I'm smarter than the both of you!
00:52:58 Stop it!
00:52:59 Stop it!
00:53:01 You all, stop it!
00:53:05 That's another thing we have
00:53:08 We all have to learn
00:53:12 How long is Sylvia,
00:53:18 Until she learns her lesson.
00:53:24 Mama...
00:53:28 She needs to be punished, Paula.
00:53:33 Yes, Mama.
00:53:37 Now, if anybody asks...
00:53:40 Sylvia... had to go to juvenile.
00:53:49 You got that, Jennie?
00:53:57 Okay.
00:54:00 That's it.
00:54:27 Are you sleeping?
00:54:35 You okay?
00:54:40 Yes.
00:54:43 It's only gonna be for a little while.
00:54:57 Did you ever hear or see, Sylvia,
00:55:00 when these things were
00:55:02 No, I never.
00:55:04 When it first started did
00:55:07 No, except she would say,
00:55:10 as if she did something wrong, but...
00:55:13 she never did anything wrong.
00:55:16 Did you yourself, on any of these
00:55:21 I just did what I was told.
00:55:26 Now then, in the month of
00:55:29 anyone else, do anything to Sylvia?
00:56:12 See, I told you so.
00:56:18 Damn.
00:56:19 What'd she do?
00:56:20 She was real bad.
00:56:21 She's dirty.
00:56:22 Mama said, she was a slut.
00:56:27 Johnny!
00:56:28 Don't worry about it.
00:56:29 She's used to it.
00:56:33 Watch this!
00:56:41 Neat, huh?
00:56:42 You just burn her like that?
00:56:44 Yeah, you can too.
00:56:45 - I don't want to.
00:56:47 It's OK.
00:56:48 Mama, said you can.
00:57:18 Did you see Sally, take cigarettes,
00:57:23 - Yes.
00:57:25 She would do it, every
00:57:28 How many times did that happened?
00:57:30 Every day.
00:57:32 Did you go to 3850 East New York St...
00:57:34 during the months of
00:57:37 Yes, Sir.
00:57:38 We go most days after school.
00:57:40 And did you see Sylvia Likens,
00:57:43 Yes, Sir.
00:57:45 Did you do anything
00:57:47 No, Sir.
00:57:48 What were the other children,
00:57:51 Playing around.
00:57:53 Did you ever tell some of the other
00:57:55 to the house, because everyone
00:57:58 I just thought,
00:58:00 Where was John standing,
00:58:04 Right in front of her.
00:58:05 What part of her body
00:58:07 - All over.
00:58:09 It was my hose, Sir.
00:58:11 Sally, did you ever see some of the
00:58:14 Yes.
00:58:16 Did you tell anybody,
00:58:20 Not really.
00:58:23 So, you told no one, what was happening
00:58:27 Well, I told my father...
00:58:29 Gertrude gave Sylvia,
00:58:32 But, he just told me, I shouldn't
00:58:34 or I get the same.
00:58:38 Shirley, was your mother
00:58:40 while some of the other people
00:58:42 Yes, she was.
00:58:44 How many times?
00:58:46 She was there, just
00:58:48 And what did she say when people
00:58:53 Nothing.
00:59:01 Did anyone order you, to hit Sylvia?
00:59:04 No, Sir.
00:59:06 - Or, tie her up?
00:59:08 - Or, wash her down?
00:59:10 Then, why did you do it, Teddy?
00:59:13 I don't no, Sir.
00:59:15 I don't no, Sir.
00:59:17 I don't no, Sir.
00:59:26 You two, go upstairs.
00:59:28 Yes, Mama.
00:59:49 Paula Baniszewski.
01:00:00 Who is it?
01:00:04 You got any cigarettes?
01:00:24 Hear anything from Sylvia?
01:00:28 You really like her, don't you?
01:00:32 She's not good for you, Honey.
01:00:37 You know, when she's gonna be back?
01:00:41 Ricky, I told you, she wont
01:00:46 She's to busy with other boys.
01:00:50 That's why I had to
01:00:54 Hand me that!
01:00:59 - Get!
01:01:07 Here's your money.
01:01:08 Thank you, baby.
01:01:10 Paula...
01:01:13 Honey! You are a good daughter,
01:01:18 It don't matter what people say,
01:01:24 We're gettin' through this.
01:01:27 What about Sylvia?
01:01:34 Look...
01:01:36 I've been praying...
01:01:39 and I think, maybe it's time
01:01:41 I think, she's learned her lesson.
01:01:44 Their are things in life,
01:01:47 whate'er we like it or not.
01:01:51 Well, I don't want any part of it.
01:01:55 Paula.
01:01:59 Paula?
01:02:00 Come down here and talk to me!
01:02:27 Hey, Sylvia? I'm not
01:02:30 I'm not gonna hurt you.
01:02:46 I know what it's like
01:03:02 I've been sick for so long, too.
01:03:07 I can't...
01:03:09 discipline my kids,
01:03:16 I'm punishing you I known, but...
01:03:19 sometimes, when I take medicine...
01:03:21 it's like, if I don't
01:03:30 And I care for you, so much.
01:03:40 With Paula, the thing is...
01:03:44 Paula is a lot like me.
01:03:49 I had her, when I was,
01:03:58 And then along came, Stephanie...
01:04:03 and then all the others.
01:04:09 And...
01:04:10 then John left.
01:04:21 And here I am, just huh...
01:04:26 doing everything I can,
01:04:31 I want something better for Paula.
01:04:39 There has to be something better.
01:04:54 And I need to protect my children.
01:05:00 Do you understand that?
01:05:03 These kids...
01:05:06 they're all I've got.
01:05:27 Thank you, Sylvia.
01:05:33 Thank you.
01:05:34 Thank you, for understanding, okay?
01:05:37 Thank you.
01:05:50 Oh, lord.
01:05:52 Okay.
01:05:58 Hello, Reverend.
01:06:03 I've been meaning to
01:06:05 but, when Paula came to the
01:06:07 it just pushed me a little.
01:06:09 Now, what's that girl
01:06:15 Well, she's concerned about you
01:06:18 And, huh... there's something else.
01:06:22 I think, Paula may be pregnant.
01:06:25 Now, I'm prepared to offer
01:06:28 but, I can't speak for
01:06:30 Reverend, I'm sorry, thank you...
01:06:32 but, it's a vicious lie and rumor...
01:06:36 spread by that Likens' girl.
01:06:38 Gertrude...
01:06:39 Paula, talked to me herself.
01:06:41 Well, Reverend,
01:06:42 I'll try to get to the bottom
01:06:44 but Sylvia has been a very bad
01:06:47 since she came in to my house.
01:06:50 And I have...
01:06:51 I just can not
01:06:54 Well, she did mention,
01:06:56 but wasn't clear, she said
01:06:58 and I haven't seen Sylvia,
01:07:01 so I thought, I just should
01:07:04 I'm afraid, I had to
01:07:07 I just could not handle that girl.
01:07:10 I caught her stealing from me...
01:07:12 Have you spoken with
01:07:13 I tried, I, huh... I wrote
01:07:16 I haven't gotten a responds.
01:07:18 Honestly, now I can understand...
01:07:19 why they just dropped
01:07:22 I see.
01:07:23 I just can go by the
01:07:24 and speak to Sylvia myself.
01:07:27 I'll try to arrange that.
01:07:28 - Hi, uncle Bill.
01:07:31 Hey, kids.
01:07:32 Why don't you take
01:07:35 We can continue this
01:07:38 Thank you, Reverend.
01:07:44 I'll see you on Sunday then.
01:07:47 I'm excepting you in my
01:07:50 We need to talk about this.
01:07:52 Sure, Reverend.
01:07:54 Okay, Gertrude.
01:08:04 Don't you have any sense?
01:08:09 - I'm doing this for you!
01:08:19 I want everybody in the basement!
01:08:27 You know why you're here.
01:08:29 Sylvia!
01:08:38 Ricky, she came back.
01:08:41 She came back from juvenile...
01:08:44 then she started trouble again.
01:08:46 Stop it!
01:08:49 Johnny, hold her!
01:08:51 No, please! Please!
01:08:52 Hold her still!
01:08:54 Sylvia, if you keep moving,
01:08:57 Light that!
01:08:58 No! No! No!
01:09:01 No! No! No!
01:09:04 Please! Please! Please!
01:09:06 - Stop it!
01:09:08 Make sure it's hot.
01:09:12 - I'm sorry! I'm sorry!
01:09:14 - No! No!
01:09:16 Please no! Please!
01:09:21 You branded my daughter.
01:09:24 Now, I'm gonna brand you.
01:09:35 Ricky!
01:09:37 Come here! Finish it!
01:09:42 Gertie, I can't.
01:09:44 Ricky, she was with every boy,
01:09:49 You can't let her
01:09:54 Please, help me, Ricky.
01:09:56 Please! Please!
01:09:58 Good boy.
01:10:01 Ricky!
01:10:06 What does it say?
01:10:09 It says: "I'm a Prostitute...
01:10:12 and proud of it".
01:10:19 NO! NO! Stop it! NO!
01:10:35 Sylvia.
01:10:39 You've gotta get outta here.
01:10:42 You gotta leave.
01:10:44 You gotta get away
01:10:52 Oh, I can't...
01:11:00 Shh...
01:12:00 Mama?
01:12:04 - You gotta get outta here!
01:12:06 You go find your parents.
01:12:08 And Jennie?
01:12:09 Jennie can take care of herself,
01:12:10 Paula?
01:12:12 No! No!
01:12:13 Go! Just go!
01:12:15 What're doing?
01:12:17 - Just let me go!
01:12:19 - Stop it!
01:12:21 Let's go in the house.
01:12:38 Sylvia!
01:12:40 Please, please don't hurt me!
01:12:43 No, no, no, no,
01:12:44 I swear to God.
01:12:46 Look, I'm sorry.
01:12:47 I didn't know, what the hell
01:12:49 But, you gotta believe me, please!
01:12:51 Please!
01:12:54 You wanna get outta here?
01:12:55 You wanna go? Let's go.
01:12:57 Come on.
01:12:58 Come on now, you're alright.
01:13:05 Where're we going?
01:13:06 I don't know.
01:13:09 Police? You wanna go to the Police?
01:13:12 I just wanna go to my mom.
01:13:14 Where's your mama?
01:13:16 I think, she's in Portage.
01:13:18 We're going to Portage.
01:13:22 Damn it!
01:13:30 - Ricky?
01:13:32 We're going! We're going!
01:13:57 I'll come with you.
01:13:59 No, you gotta get back.
01:14:04 You gotta get back to Jennie, and
01:14:11 I wont let her out of my site.
01:14:15 Thank you, Ricky.
01:14:59 Daddy?
01:15:02 Cookie?
01:15:04 What're you doing here?
01:15:06 Dad!
01:15:08 Oh, my...
01:15:20 Oh, my God.
01:15:23 Oh, my God.
01:15:29 They did this to you?
01:15:34 I'm so... so sorry.
01:15:37 I'm just so sorry,
01:15:40 We spoke to Jennie,
01:15:41 She said everything was fine.
01:15:43 She's scared of her.
01:15:45 We gotta go back.
01:15:50 Let's just talk in the car.
01:15:52 Everything’s gonna be
01:15:56 You're with your family now.
01:15:58 Oh, Honey.
01:16:07 Hey, Honey! We're here.
01:16:24 You stay here, Cookie.
01:16:26 No, huh...
01:16:29 I gotta do this.
01:16:34 I'm just gonna go in.
01:17:06 She's not breathing, mama.
01:17:09 She'll wake up, okay?
01:17:12 Wake up, please!
01:17:14 Stephanie?
01:17:15 - She's not breathing!
01:17:17 Somebody, please do something!
01:17:20 - She's faking it.
01:17:23 - Bring me some water, baby.
01:17:25 She okay?
01:17:26 Please, somebody,
01:17:28 Liar, liar, liar, liar...
01:17:31 Mama, she's not faking it!
01:17:32 She came to my house,
01:17:35 Stephanie, what's wrong?
01:17:37 Mama, we gotta do something!
01:17:39 Sweetie, mama, she's...
01:17:43 Please, Sylvia, please breath.
01:17:45 Sylvia?
01:17:51 Shirley, she'll be okay,
01:17:54 Somebody's gotta do something!
01:17:56 Shut up, Stephanie! She's lyin'!
01:17:59 She just lays there.
01:18:01 Oh, my god.
01:18:03 Ricky, do something!
01:18:05 Look out!
01:18:07 Here, try this.
01:18:09 Sylvia! Wake up!
01:18:10 - Come on, breath!
01:18:12 you go get Andy, baby,
01:18:15 Wake up, Sylvia!
01:18:16 She'll be okay,
01:18:18 Please, Sylvia, breath.
01:18:20 She's cold.
01:18:21 Somebody better call the police!
01:18:23 Don't call the police.
01:18:25 Just go!
01:18:27 She's not dying!
01:18:30 I'll go get more water,
01:18:31 Babies', come here...
01:18:36 She's lying, baby, She's just...
01:18:38 Mama, she's not faking it!
01:18:50 I need the police!
01:18:51 Yeah, there maybe a
01:19:02 She's dead.
01:19:03 Jesus Christ, Gertie.
01:19:14 What's the problem?
01:19:16 Get me out of here,
01:19:23 Jennie, did you ever see...
01:19:26 Sylvia do anything,
01:19:30 No. I didn't see anything.
01:19:34 Did you ever see her
01:19:37 No.
01:19:39 Did you ever see her do anything,
01:19:43 No.
01:19:47 Jennie, you saw your
01:19:53 beaten, struck.
01:19:55 Why did you not call the police?
01:19:58 Well, huh... Gertie dreaded me,
01:20:02 I'd get the same treatment,
01:20:05 You could have told anyone,
01:20:09 I was scared, and I guess,
01:20:13 did what she told me to do.
01:20:22 Did you ever see Sylvia cry?
01:20:31 They said, she didn't
01:20:33 but... I knew better.
01:20:37 I've seen her cry before.
01:20:42 I imagine, the reason
01:20:46 because she didn't
01:20:51 The trial lasted 24 days.
01:20:54 Gertrude was the last
01:20:57 What was your physical condition
01:21:05 Pretty run down, physically.
01:21:08 Pretty upset, mentally and emotionally.
01:21:11 What do you mean?
01:21:14 If you got as many children...
01:21:17 around your home,
01:21:22 arguing and carrying on...
01:21:24 you'd be pretty upset,
01:21:27 What medicine did you take?
01:21:29 Phenobarbital Sulfate,
01:21:33 I was trying to take
01:21:36 because I could not
01:21:39 Well, then, getting to
01:21:43 Was there any change in your
01:21:46 or in the condition of that house?
01:21:52 No, Sir.
01:21:54 What about the 3rd. week
01:21:56 do you remember that?
01:21:57 You mean anything specific that
01:22:00 Yes, anything specific.
01:22:02 The kids were fighting a lot.
01:22:04 The kids were fighting a lot?
01:22:07 My children and the
01:22:10 were coming in,
01:22:13 My children fighting with other
01:22:17 What did you do,
01:22:21 I did not see this, fighting then.
01:22:24 I was barely able to stay up at all.
01:22:27 I did not even feel
01:22:31 Did you have any knowledge,
01:22:34 going on with Sylvia?
01:22:38 No, Sir.
01:22:40 Did you commit any indignity,
01:22:45 No, Sir.
01:22:48 Do you know, how those
01:22:50 No, Sir.
01:22:52 You're telling the Jury,
01:22:57 No.
01:23:01 Did you hear the testimony of Jennie?
01:23:03 Yes, I did.
01:23:05 Did you hear, some of
01:23:07 that before Sylvia died,
01:23:13 Yes, I heard that.
01:23:15 Did they all lie?
01:23:23 That is right.
01:23:26 The fact is you're lying, isn't it?
01:23:29 No, Sir.
01:23:34 Did you hear John Baniszewski state...
01:23:37 that you burned her,
01:23:42 Yes, I heard that statement.
01:23:44 Did he tell the truth?
01:23:51 He was not telling the truth.
01:23:54 No.
01:23:57 You're saying, you did not do it?
01:24:01 That's right.
01:24:02 You were in bed,
01:24:04 when the children were doing things,
01:24:07 I imagine they were doing
01:24:09 that I did not know.
01:24:11 Why did Johnny lie?
01:24:15 I imagine, he is a pretty
01:24:18 Are you scared?
01:24:22 I've been scared by a lot
01:24:26 She sacrificed me,
01:24:30 and sacrificed them,
01:24:54 Will the accused, please rise!
01:25:08 We, the Jury, find
01:25:12 guilty of 1st. degree murder...
01:25:14 sentencing her to life in prison.
01:25:25 The case got a lot of attention...
01:25:29 it even made Time Magazine.
01:25:37 And most people started talking...
01:25:39 about things, they used to ignore.
01:25:42 Thank you.
01:25:44 The others, were tried later.
01:25:46 Paula was found guilty
01:25:48 and served a couple of years.
01:25:50 She had that Baby,
01:25:54 Johnny was convicted too.
01:25:56 He was the youngest inmate...
01:25:57 in the history, of the
01:26:00 He would later become
01:26:03 one way of telling
01:26:05 Ricky Hobbs, was found
01:26:08 he served time at the reformatory.
01:26:11 He died at age 21,
01:26:16 Coy, also served a couple of years...
01:26:19 He went on with a life of crime...
01:26:20 after he got released from prison.
01:26:23 I don't know, what happened,
01:26:27 Mom und Dad, went back on Tour...
01:26:29 and left Jennie, with the
01:26:33 They helped her get back on her feet.
01:26:38 Gertrude served 20 years
01:26:41 She was released on parole in 1985.
01:26:46 Before she died 5 years later...
01:26:49 she took responsibility, for
01:27:06 I'm so sorry.
01:27:18 And me?
01:27:22 I returned to the carnival.
01:27:25 The only place, I always felt save.
01:27:31 Reverend Bill, used to say:
01:27:33 "For every situation,
01:27:39 I guess, I'm still trying