Art of The Steal The
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(soft dramatic music) |
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Well, hello everybody. |
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This is a fabulous day |
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and we have some wonderful news |
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and I am so proud |
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the mayor of Philadelphia, |
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John Street. |
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(applause) |
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- Thank you, |
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Now, let me see, |
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(laughter) |
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Um, actually it is a very, |
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for all of us here |
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This has been-- |
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and we're not |
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but let me tell you something. |
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It's one of those things |
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that will make our city special |
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You will not be able |
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and see the Barnes Collection. |
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You won't be able |
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You won't be able |
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If you want to see it, |
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you come to the city |
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And so it is |
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that we come here today |
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so that the Barnes Collection |
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Lower Merion? |
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- Merion. |
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- From Merion... |
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Actually, |
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that I was on a bike ride |
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and rode right past the place. |
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And I said, |
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(laughter) |
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In the city of Philadelphia |
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on the Benjamin Franklin |
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(frantic piano music) |
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- You know, this is a story |
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as it went along. |
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(tape cassette clicks) |
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- It is the greatest act |
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since World War II. |
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(hard rock music) |
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- It's been a circus. |
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You know, he couldn't take |
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up to heaven with him-- |
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or wherever the heck |
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(Music continues) |
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- The name of the game is, |
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if you're gonna leave |
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don't let there be |
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a politician |
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(Music continues) |
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- It's America's treasure to be |
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(Music continues) |
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- Culture has become |
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Culture is an industry. |
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There's a culture industry |
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that requires new product. |
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(Music continues) |
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- This is about humanity, |
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but you can't put |
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I mean, obviously, |
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when you do that. |
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(Music continues) |
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- It's an example |
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all across the society, |
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and this is just one |
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that we can look at carefully. |
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(Music continues) |
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- No one knows this story. |
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This is a hidden story, |
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and it's a big, big scandal. |
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(Music continues) |
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This is the scandal of |
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(Music continues) |
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(cassette clicks and whirs) |
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- The Barnes is one of the Iast |
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in the United States. |
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The fight now |
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the foundation |
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should follow Barnes's wishes. |
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Here were Modern paintings |
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that they were the envy |
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in the world. |
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(birds chirping) |
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- This is the treasure trove |
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the Modern art of America |
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And this is the best of the best |
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- When you go through |
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it is jaw-dropping. |
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Your mouth falls open. |
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You can't believe |
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And then you go |
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and it's more and more |
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It's just incredible. |
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- I had an art handler there, |
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and the first time she picked up |
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she walked about three feet, |
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she put the painting back down |
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and she sat on a bench, |
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- They've got more Cezannes |
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than are in the entire city |
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There's 181 Renoirs, |
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59 paintings by Matisse. |
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The joy of life is always cited |
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because it's such |
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in the history of art. |
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Picasso: 46. |
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Seven by Van Gogh. |
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Six by Seurat. |
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The Seurat Models, now, |
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sort of a spectacular thing |
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- Uh, simply the concentration |
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of these particular masters |
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The Louvre doesn't have it. |
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The Museum of Modern Art, |
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the Metropolitan Museum, |
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- If you've been |
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you're used to walking in |
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these white walls |
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You know, it's like |
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- Barnes wasn't interested |
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He was interested |
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- The rooms are intimate. |
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They are not made |
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industrial-strength |
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- The Barnes Collection |
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not by artist, |
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- You can see that a Cezanne |
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and some furniture |
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Well, he had a reason for this. |
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- It's a completely |
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of understanding |
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and one's experience |
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- We see this collection |
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with a very interesting |
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- The Barnes Foundation |
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American cultural monument |
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of the first half |
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- From an arts |
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it is not a little place. |
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It's an absolutely essential, |
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earth-shakingly |
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(birds chirping) |
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(record needle crackling) |
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(projector whirring) |
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(brassy jazz music) |
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- Well, Albert Barnes |
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as really |
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because, I mean, he's-- |
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he tends to be dismissed |
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a bizarre curmudgeon. |
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But in fact, |
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something of a genius. |
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- Dr. Barnes is |
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because I'm fascinated |
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from Philadelphia |
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who's boxing to help pay |
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how this young man creates |
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one of the most |
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of Early Modern art |
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- He was a brilliant kid |
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who came up out of the smoke |
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and became very successful. |
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(Music continues) |
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- Dr. Barnes made his way into |
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and then its medical school. |
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He realized |
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for a substitute |
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which, at that time, |
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a drop or two was put |
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of almost every baby born |
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to protect them |
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- # VD is for everybody # |
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- The product which Barnes |
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was something called argyrol. |
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- Barnes marketed something |
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that solved a huge problem |
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the wealth that would |
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imagine today that you had |
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a cure for AlDS. |
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Glackens, |
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who was an artist, |
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Barnes, being |
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immersed himself in it |
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in the same way |
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in any other objective |
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He wanted to learn about it; |
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But here he was |
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And at that rate, Philadelphia |
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- The money people |
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did not have a sense |
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Barnes did. |
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(accordion music) |
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- Well, he'd started going |
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you know, trying to understand |
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what was happening |
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- Barnes's taste |
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in about two or three years, |
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that Renoir and Cezanne |
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are the pillars |
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He also then sees |
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are the continuators |
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- Barnes was way ahead |
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He was ahead of his time |
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culturally, politically. |
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He collected some |
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in the history of the world |
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the American art establishment |
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as inaccessible |
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and of little value. |
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- Just think, |
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the Museum of Modern Art |
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The Philadelphia Museum of Art |
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These were his competitors. |
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The Met had been around |
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It's this extraordinary moment |
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to buy some |
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before museums were competing, |
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before MOMA and Philadelphia |
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were actually saying, |
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"We have to buy these artists |
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- There's always been |
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about the Barnes Collection, |
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truly phenomenal collection |
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that the museum world |
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(car horns honking) |
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- We're at Sotheby's |
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for their big lmpressionist |
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(background conversation) |
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I mean, |
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which is a nice picture |
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This is not a great Van Gogh. |
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They're estimating $35 million. |
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I suspect in this market, |
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that-- that-- that-- it will go |
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It's not Barnes-worthy. |
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He would have not bought |
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but it is a Van Gogh. |
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Barnes wouldn't even look |
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Some pictures are unattractive |
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Some paintings are attractive |
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This is both unattractive |
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I mean, the one last night |
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was a much better painting. |
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That was a good Matisse. |
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I don't think it was good enough |
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And the Cezanne here is... |
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not even a shadow |
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This is estimated |
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I couldn't even hang it |
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as The Card PIayers. |
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But The Card PIayers |
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certainly any |
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I mean, how much money |
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The Getty couldn't afford it. |
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You'd need some sort |
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- Now 0011. |
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- You're gonna see prices |
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that will make your head spin. |
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- Let's start the bidding |
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at $20 million here, |
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- For things |
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Iet alone important. |
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- $35 million and fair warning. |
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Last chance. |
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Selling then for $35 million. |
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(gavel clacks) |
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- There certainly aren't |
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Iike the Barnes anywhere anymore |
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(soft piano music) |
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- What is a collection |
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- Oh. |
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(sighs) |
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Look, there's some things |
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one can't even begin |
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I-- I-- I could go through |
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painting by painting, |
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and a lot of them |
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some kind of a number. |
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But some things in there, |
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nobody could figure out. |
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The Matisse La Danse, |
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nobody could figure out |
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We don't know. |
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There's been nothing like it. |
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There never will be. |
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(sighs) |
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It's worth billions. |
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I have no idea what it's worth. |
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The Cezanne Card PIayers, |
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$500 million, |
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I mean, we're talking |
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(Music continues) |
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- The initial exhibition |
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took place in 1923 |
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in Philadelphia when Barnes |
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at the Academy of Fine Arts. |
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Barnes had great faith |
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and his eye. |
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He knew that he was |
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of collecting the greatest |
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- He was passionate about |
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And there was a passion |
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(dramatic music) |
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(Music continues) |
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- The art critics, |
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The Philadelphia Inquirer |
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they just trashed |
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They said, |
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this is scribbling." |
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- It was greeted |
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from the traditional stuffy |
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And Barnes was dismayed. |
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I mean, he was just dismayed |
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who thought of themselves |
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just denounce him. |
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I think it must have had |
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in his dealings with them |
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- He determined |
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would they get their hands |
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(ominous music) |
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(Music continues) |
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- A principal reason |
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his foundation where he did |
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the downtown interests |
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that ruled the city, |
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from the newspaper |
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- He talks about |
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rich people using artwork |
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He didn't want that to happen |
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The other robber barons |
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to themselves. |
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Barnes wanted to make something |
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so he used his collection |
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He really wanted to be taken |
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and that this project |
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as a real new step |
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Dewey recognized that. |
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He was a very |
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and one of America's |
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to philosophy and education, |
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really embracing |
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- If you've spent time |
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and you've gotten a sense |
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you know that it's a very, |
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And it's not important |
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great, great paintings. |
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The entire thing |
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of a set of ideas. |
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Dr. Barnes created this |
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in the midst of |
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Barnes there assembled |
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from all over the world |
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and he put them |
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And he arranged it |
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so that the art speaks |
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It says something |
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It says we're the same. |
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It says |
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are no different |
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and Asians. |
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We experience life in, |
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We show it in different ways, |
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but the basic fundamental |
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This is one of the many things |
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that they say |
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that makes so much sense-- |
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that art isn't something |
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It is life. |
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(birds chirping) |
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(rock music) |
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(Music continues) |
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- Years later, the artwork |
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recognized as important. |
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Everyone was so offended |
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because it was closed |
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"How dare you? |
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I've shown up |
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Well, fuck it. |
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Barnes didn't really care |
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He had a school to run, |
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(Music continues) |
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- The hatred of Barnes |
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- People didn't like him |
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- He didn't have much regard |
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for Philadelphia society. |
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- Oh, Dr. Barnes was |
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towards his contemporaries. |
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- He liked to fight, |
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he would pick on anybody small. |
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It was always... |
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- Somebody would write, |
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"I'm the art critic |
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Can I come in |
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And Albert Barnes would write, |
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and he'd have his dog |
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But if you said, |
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and I want to come see |
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he'd say, "Okay, come in." |
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(Music continues) |
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- Barnes never forgot, |
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that he'd grown up a poor boy |
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in turn-of-the-century |
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and this set him at odds |
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not only with the arts |
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but with |
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He was a New Deal |
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This particularly put him |
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with the family that owned |
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which was clubbable |
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(Music continues) |
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(man whistling) |
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The Inquirer was the organ |
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and his son, |
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Here is a bona fide plutocrat, |
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a right-wing Nixonian, |
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ambassador to the court |
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It's like gone back |
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and these ridiculous costumes. |
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How more ludicrously right-wing |
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This man who liked |
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in the middle of the night |
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- Barnes and he were always |
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The Philadelphia Inquirer was |
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for not opening it |
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not doing the things |
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but he did the things |
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And it was his art. |
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Why couldn't he do |
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- One of the problems |
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his father |
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He went to jail |
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which is what all gangsters |
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unless you can really |
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with the knife in their hand. |
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- In the end, the feds agreed |
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to give his young |
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a pass if the old man |
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copped out and took |
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So his father was sent off |
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and was only released as |
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And this is something |
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never forgave |
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It was often said |
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that Albert Barnes realized |
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from Walter Annenberg |
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because he said nasty cracks |
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and his income tax problems |
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and, you know, the racetracks |
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But there's no doubt |
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who for many, many years |
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of Philadelphia journalism, |
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hated Albert Barnes |
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(up-tempo string music) |
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(Music continues) |
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Barnes was a very, |
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and one of the things |
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was the value of a good lawyer, |
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and Barnes's lawyer is a man |
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Johnson was a great patron |
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whose art today is one |
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of the |
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Now, this, however, |
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had wished it to be, |
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John Johnson intended his art |
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as a gallery in his home |
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on Broad Street |
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- Poor Johnson had said, |
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"Look, I'm gonna give you |
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"Part of the bargain is, |
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keep my end up of it." |
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- Well, after his death, |
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and the paintings were moved |
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into the Philadelphia Museum |
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where they have been |
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Johnson's art was, in effect, |
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by the Philadelphia-- |
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- They argued that the building |
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and that the paintings |
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and that they'd be |
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in this new building. |
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"Let's get the paintings |
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and bring 'em up |
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So, yeah, he got screwed. |
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- Barnes was so appalled |
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that he became determined |
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that the political |
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of Philadelphia |
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(dramatic music) |
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Well, Barnes, as he always did, |
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he turned to the best lawyers |
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to draw up his will. |
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The goal had always been |
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as a freestanding |
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not to fold the Barnes |
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into the Philadelphia Museum |
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and certainly not to turn |
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into an art museum. |
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And it was to be housed |
00:23:51 |
that Dr. Barnes had put up. |
00:23:54 |
- So he wrote this very sort of |
00:23:57 |
He said, |
00:24:00 |
"as an educational institution. |
00:24:02 |
"lt can be open two or three |
00:24:07 |
"but four or five days a week, |
00:24:08 |
"it shall be |
00:24:10 |
"to students and educators |
00:24:14 |
"The collection |
00:24:17 |
"The collection |
00:24:22 |
"The democratic nature |
00:24:24 |
shall be preserved |
00:24:28 |
- He tried to create |
00:24:29 |
that was proof against |
00:24:33 |
If it remains |
00:24:36 |
if it simply hangs on a wall, |
00:24:38 |
if it can never be lent, |
00:24:39 |
if it can never be sold, |
00:24:41 |
the commercial exploitation |
00:24:44 |
- He sought to preserve this |
00:24:47 |
so maybe naively, |
00:24:50 |
But anyone who ever writes |
00:24:52 |
thinks it's gonna go on forever. |
00:25:01 |
(dramatic music) |
00:25:04 |
- And so it was-- |
00:25:10 |
traveling between |
00:25:13 |
and his home in Merion, |
00:25:17 |
when he was instantly killed. |
00:25:20 |
(Music continues) |
00:25:26 |
- It was-- it was a shock. |
00:25:29 |
(Music continues) |
00:25:36 |
And I thought, |
00:25:37 |
"l only hope we can keep |
00:25:41 |
of Dr. Barnes's ideas alive." |
00:25:47 |
- The question then arises, |
00:25:51 |
what did Albert Barnes intend |
00:25:56 |
of the great |
00:26:08 |
(somber music) |
00:26:11 |
- So then he died in 1951, |
00:26:14 |
and here we have |
00:26:17 |
one of the great characters |
00:26:22 |
in the art world, |
00:26:23 |
who originally came |
00:26:26 |
to give French classes. |
00:26:28 |
And she becomes |
00:26:33 |
his great supporter, |
00:26:36 |
his disciple, |
00:26:38 |
and she's in charge |
00:26:42 |
- After Dr. Barnes died, |
00:26:45 |
and she ran it |
00:26:50 |
- She was just passionate |
00:26:52 |
She poured her life into this. |
00:26:56 |
- Well, hell, it wasn't a job |
00:26:59 |
and those of us |
00:27:00 |
it was our life. |
00:27:01 |
We were painters. |
00:27:04 |
It wasn't just a job. |
00:27:06 |
- Through the Barnes teaching |
00:27:10 |
so many hundreds of people |
00:27:14 |
"lt has changed my life." |
00:27:17 |
- All I can say is, |
00:27:18 |
the people who took the course |
00:27:20 |
And that, to me, |
00:27:22 |
was a satisfactory reason |
00:27:24 |
to perpetuate |
00:27:27 |
which was a school, |
00:27:29 |
that's very clear |
00:27:32 |
and that the paintings |
00:27:33 |
for didactic purposes, |
00:27:36 |
and not merely because |
00:27:39 |
of people walking into a museum. |
00:27:44 |
- Well, almost immediately after |
00:27:48 |
the foundation found itself |
00:27:51 |
by none other than |
00:27:54 |
publisher, multimillionaire |
00:27:58 |
- Annenberg starts |
00:27:59 |
"Oh, the Barnes Foundation |
00:28:01 |
They're violating their tax |
00:28:05 |
- Annenberg had all the money |
00:28:06 |
and he was determined |
00:28:10 |
and he didn't dare try |
00:28:12 |
when the old man |
00:28:13 |
and was a tough nut |
00:28:16 |
(Music continues) |
00:28:25 |
- When they opened up |
00:28:27 |
I never knew it was |
00:28:28 |
The day they opened it, |
00:28:30 |
"They're letting |
00:28:33 |
I think she was in tears. |
00:28:37 |
Well, these people crowded in. |
00:28:38 |
I mean, one guy was out |
00:28:41 |
He said he saw enough |
00:28:45 |
And that was-- |
00:28:50 |
- Annenberg is seen |
00:28:52 |
who got the attorney general |
00:28:54 |
to make the Barnes Foundation |
00:28:57 |
at times that it wasn't supposed |
00:28:59 |
And so Annenberg is seen |
00:29:01 |
the first little crack |
00:29:06 |
- Once everybody's dead, |
00:29:10 |
and nobody cares |
00:29:12 |
That's why it was important |
00:29:15 |
that it's a school. |
00:29:17 |
- Well, I think he always |
00:29:20 |
that the artwork would become |
00:29:22 |
that it would overpower |
00:29:28 |
- You know, people see art, |
00:29:30 |
Paintings, money, tourism. |
00:29:33 |
It's become just the norm |
00:29:36 |
for blockbuster shows, |
00:29:39 |
move it around, you know, |
00:29:43 |
and there is all this great art |
00:29:45 |
that the museum world |
00:29:50 |
- We had requests from various |
00:29:54 |
"Would you please lend us |
00:29:56 |
"We'll pay all the costs, |
00:29:58 |
and we'll send armed guards |
00:30:01 |
And de Mazia said, |
00:30:04 |
the paintings will never be |
00:30:06 |
absolutely no, never. |
00:30:08 |
De Mazia was considered to be |
00:30:14 |
of Dr. Barnes and his method, |
00:30:17 |
and everything went according |
00:30:21 |
- The atmosphere |
00:30:23 |
"It's for the classes; |
00:30:25 |
Everything about it |
00:30:27 |
De Mazia was |
00:30:31 |
It was a handmade thing |
00:30:35 |
as long as she was alive. |
00:30:41 |
(dramatic music) |
00:30:44 |
(Music continues) |
00:30:47 |
- When she died, she was, |
00:30:51 |
She died on a Friday |
00:30:57 |
(chuckles) |
00:30:58 |
- Well, everything changed |
00:31:02 |
and with her death, |
00:31:06 |
whose hands would inherit |
00:31:09 |
Barnes was married, |
00:31:15 |
so no doubt |
00:31:18 |
no doubt the University |
00:31:22 |
that they would inherit, |
00:31:23 |
control of the foundation. |
00:31:25 |
However, Barnes kept |
00:31:27 |
of this, there's no question-- |
00:31:29 |
but he just didn't |
00:31:32 |
- Albert Barnes created the |
00:31:35 |
with the power |
00:31:39 |
After the last of the trustees |
00:31:44 |
ultimately they elect de Mazia. |
00:31:46 |
Now, the rub then became, |
00:31:52 |
- As everyone knows, |
00:31:56 |
He had his delicate ego |
00:32:00 |
by the Philadelphia |
00:32:02 |
and he had a long |
00:32:06 |
- Ultimately, his will left |
00:32:09 |
of the great Barnes art |
00:32:16 |
- When he got Lincoln there, |
00:32:18 |
it was just the farthest |
00:32:22 |
in the social scene |
00:32:24 |
- Lincoln was, if you were |
00:32:28 |
one of the places to go to get |
00:32:32 |
at a time when there was |
00:32:34 |
- My father was president |
00:32:37 |
and he befriended |
00:32:40 |
and from that friendship |
00:32:42 |
between Lincoln University |
00:32:46 |
Barnes was one of those |
00:32:49 |
who was openhearted |
00:32:51 |
You know, in his factory, he had |
00:32:54 |
when almost no |
00:32:56 |
in the whole of the country |
00:32:58 |
And he thought, |
00:33:00 |
"How can I stick my finger |
00:33:02 |
"of the Philadelphia |
00:33:04 |
"I'll show 'em. |
00:33:05 |
I'll give it to this little |
00:33:07 |
- Whether, you know, |
00:33:10 |
number one, |
00:33:12 |
on the Philadelphia |
00:33:15 |
I think he said, |
00:33:16 |
"Boy, you know, |
00:33:18 |
"They're not part |
00:33:20 |
that I hate so much." |
00:33:26 |
- Fast forward to 1990, |
00:33:28 |
Lincoln is this state school |
00:33:30 |
that doesn't get |
00:33:32 |
that can't raise enough money, |
00:33:34 |
and if you're a trustee |
00:33:35 |
why wouldn't you use |
00:33:37 |
to raise some money |
00:33:40 |
- Franklin Williams, |
00:33:43 |
was made the president |
00:33:47 |
and he really understood, |
00:33:50 |
as probably most of |
00:33:54 |
that he and Lincoln |
00:33:58 |
of the world's greatest |
00:33:59 |
post-lmpressionist |
00:34:01 |
(bluesy rock music) |
00:34:04 |
(Music continues) |
00:34:06 |
- Franklin Williams established |
00:34:08 |
of notable people |
00:34:12 |
in the art world. |
00:34:13 |
- Franklin Williams wanted |
00:34:16 |
so I went back, |
00:34:18 |
with all museum people |
00:34:22 |
- Lincoln University felt |
00:34:24 |
it really should look |
00:34:25 |
to help it figure out |
00:34:28 |
which is a perfectly reasonable |
00:34:32 |
- It would be a resource |
00:34:36 |
understanding the terms |
00:34:38 |
of Barnes' trust, |
00:34:40 |
and it would have just made |
00:34:43 |
It would be... |
00:34:44 |
It's indescribable |
00:34:46 |
(Music continues) |
00:34:50 |
- Also on the Lincoln board |
00:34:54 |
was this incredibly |
00:34:58 |
named Richard H. Glanton. |
00:35:02 |
He has designs on being |
00:35:05 |
maybe even senator. |
00:35:07 |
His ambitions know no limit. |
00:35:08 |
Glanton has already been |
00:35:11 |
that he's going to run |
00:35:13 |
But as I say, between Glanton |
00:35:16 |
and perhaps many |
00:35:19 |
is Franklin Williams. |
00:35:21 |
What no one could have |
00:35:22 |
that almost immediately |
00:35:25 |
president |
00:35:26 |
diplomat/lawyer |
00:35:28 |
discovers he has a very virulent |
00:35:30 |
and within the year is dead. |
00:35:32 |
(Music continues) |
00:35:44 |
- When I came there, |
00:35:48 |
this dummy is fresh meat |
00:35:51 |
and he's just |
00:35:53 |
but he doesn't know anything |
00:35:55 |
so we'll rule while he reigns. |
00:36:00 |
And... |
00:36:01 |
I was not born that way. |
00:36:05 |
- I got a call |
00:36:08 |
who said, |
00:36:12 |
"at the Union League |
00:36:14 |
and pick your brain? " |
00:36:15 |
So I said, "Sure, why not? " |
00:36:17 |
He said, "I've got big plans |
00:36:20 |
We're gonna make |
00:36:21 |
And I said, |
00:36:24 |
"We've got the original |
00:36:26 |
"It's yielding a couple |
00:36:28 |
"more than we need |
00:36:30 |
What's the point |
00:36:32 |
And Glanton says, |
00:36:34 |
"I'm gonna put this whole thing |
00:36:36 |
"I'm gonna do whatever it takes |
00:36:37 |
"to build up as much money |
00:36:39 |
"Don't worry, Dave. |
00:36:40 |
I've got it all figured out." |
00:36:42 |
"Oh, okay. |
00:36:43 |
"Well, you know, if that's |
00:36:46 |
"You're a majority |
00:36:47 |
But thanks for lunch." |
00:36:51 |
- Mrs. de Mazia, |
00:36:53 |
really did the best she could, |
00:36:55 |
but for 50 years |
00:36:58 |
or 40 years, |
00:37:01 |
The building had |
00:37:04 |
All of the windows |
00:37:07 |
The HVAC system didn't work. |
00:37:11 |
- We've got |
00:37:13 |
We've got, you know-- |
00:37:17 |
all of which, frankly, |
00:37:22 |
seemed perfectly reasonable. |
00:37:24 |
At the time, when we were |
00:37:27 |
it was very clear |
00:37:29 |
a plan to try |
00:37:31 |
'cause everybody in the world |
00:37:33 |
the Barnes Foundation. |
00:37:34 |
So that was what we suggested, |
00:37:37 |
and that's precisely |
00:37:39 |
did not want to do. |
00:37:41 |
They were about to figure out |
00:37:44 |
that was clearly illegal |
00:37:47 |
which is what they did. |
00:37:48 |
(Music continues) |
00:37:51 |
- Richard loved being president |
00:37:53 |
and he loved all |
00:37:57 |
hobnobbing with the rich |
00:37:59 |
including multimillionaire |
00:38:04 |
- So I called Walter |
00:38:08 |
"I'd like to just talk to you |
00:38:12 |
and he said, "Great." |
00:38:15 |
- Walter Annenberg, |
00:38:19 |
was also an art collector. |
00:38:21 |
First-rate collection |
00:38:22 |
but certainly not |
00:38:25 |
certainly not |
00:38:28 |
- In the last several months, |
00:38:32 |
after me to sell |
00:38:34 |
My only response has been, |
00:38:38 |
"You're discussing members |
00:38:41 |
and I'm hardly about to sell |
00:38:48 |
- Couldn't be more ironic. |
00:38:51 |
Glanton and Walter Annenberg |
00:38:55 |
of selling Barnes' art. |
00:38:58 |
- I said, |
00:39:00 |
"to restore the gallery |
00:39:02 |
"to ensure |
00:39:04 |
of the collection," |
00:39:05 |
and the way that I would do this |
00:39:08 |
a number of paintings |
00:39:10 |
to cover the cost |
00:39:14 |
And he immediately said, |
00:39:19 |
- You know, Glanton |
00:39:21 |
what he wanted to do. |
00:39:22 |
He made it totally accessible |
00:39:24 |
and he was gonna rip it apart |
00:39:25 |
Up until then, |
00:39:26 |
Annenberg was coming in |
00:39:30 |
Now what you had was trustees, |
00:39:33 |
from the inside. |
00:39:35 |
The Barnes board itself |
00:39:36 |
"Oh, we're in dire |
00:39:38 |
"We need to undo |
00:39:42 |
Let us sell the collection." |
00:39:46 |
- I have nothing against |
00:39:48 |
If there's no legal reason |
00:39:50 |
Dr. Barnes did not say |
00:39:53 |
and therefore |
00:39:55 |
as far as I'm concerned. |
00:39:57 |
- We were outraged. |
00:39:59 |
Glanton didn't care. |
00:40:00 |
And then when we objected, |
00:40:04 |
he fired the whole |
00:40:07 |
- The response of the art world |
00:40:11 |
There was a huge uproar. |
00:40:13 |
Anybody with any familiarity |
00:40:16 |
knew that it was absolutely |
00:40:20 |
with any knowledge |
00:40:22 |
would do. |
00:40:25 |
- So even though there was |
00:40:28 |
didn't happen, |
00:40:29 |
because the museum community |
00:40:33 |
- Having now failed to convince |
00:40:35 |
or his partners |
00:40:38 |
to allow him to sell art |
00:40:41 |
or deaccession art, |
00:40:42 |
he now comes up |
00:40:48 |
(frantic string music) |
00:40:50 |
- When Richard started |
00:40:53 |
that the foundation |
00:40:55 |
and this is where he started |
00:40:58 |
the fiasco plan |
00:41:00 |
that he would sell |
00:41:03 |
in order to justify that, |
00:41:05 |
"Come on, I'll show you." |
00:41:06 |
And so I took a tour with him |
00:41:10 |
of the foundation |
00:41:14 |
- And so day after day, |
00:41:16 |
usually with Richard Glanton |
00:41:19 |
taking Lucinda Fleeson, |
00:41:22 |
through the boiler room |
00:41:24 |
readers of The Inquirer |
00:41:27 |
of the poor old |
00:41:29 |
and it was gonna take |
00:41:31 |
millions of dollars |
00:41:33 |
Otherwise |
00:41:34 |
they were just gonna |
00:41:36 |
- We're working on fear here, |
00:41:37 |
Weapons of mass destruction, |
00:41:39 |
It's funny, but it sounds like |
00:41:41 |
"The building's falling apart." |
00:41:44 |
That was the beginning |
00:41:46 |
of why we can undermine |
00:41:50 |
(rock music) |
00:41:52 |
- Thank you to Lucinda Fleeson |
00:41:55 |
he has this marvelous excuse |
00:41:57 |
that the building is |
00:42:01 |
that it's going to have to be |
00:42:03 |
for a couple of years. |
00:42:04 |
"Let me take the Barnes art |
00:42:07 |
and charge other museums |
00:42:10 |
- As a lawyer, there is |
00:42:13 |
that provided |
00:42:16 |
It's called cy pres. |
00:42:18 |
You can change a provision |
00:42:20 |
to carry out |
00:42:22 |
to the least extent possible. |
00:42:24 |
- If you can't do exactly |
00:42:26 |
there's the term-- |
00:42:29 |
cy pres |
00:42:30 |
as near as possible |
00:42:33 |
And how in the world |
00:42:35 |
that this is near as possible-- |
00:42:37 |
This is exactly |
00:42:38 |
Every...every ounce of it |
00:42:42 |
- I was told by everybody |
00:42:44 |
it wouldn't be done. |
00:42:45 |
Nobody will do it. |
00:42:47 |
I said, "Well... |
00:42:48 |
We're gonna do this." |
00:42:50 |
- # You do what you have to # |
00:42:52 |
# And not what you're told # |
00:42:54 |
(Music continues) |
00:43:10 |
- Given the quality |
00:43:14 |
it created headlines |
00:43:17 |
It created crowds |
00:43:18 |
and it created money |
00:43:21 |
And all of that was like |
00:43:25 |
until the fire was raging. |
00:43:27 |
(Music continues) |
00:43:30 |
- Everywhere the art went, |
00:43:32 |
and everywhere |
00:43:34 |
he was honored. |
00:43:35 |
- I was treated |
00:43:39 |
in Paris and Toronto |
00:43:41 |
Dinner, seated at the table |
00:43:44 |
An invitation for her |
00:43:47 |
Letters from her. |
00:43:48 |
It was literally unbelievable. |
00:43:52 |
I think it was |
00:43:54 |
in the history |
00:43:56 |
(Music continues) |
00:44:01 |
(music fades) |
00:44:05 |
(piano and orchestral music) |
00:44:07 |
- The Barnes art now returned |
00:44:12 |
well, I was gonna say |
00:44:15 |
that you could imagine, |
00:44:17 |
but I think that was saved |
00:44:19 |
(Music continues) |
00:44:22 |
A showing at the |
00:44:25 |
the archenemy, |
00:44:30 |
reveling in their possession, |
00:44:34 |
of the Barnes art. |
00:44:36 |
- This was the great slap |
00:44:38 |
"Well, we have to show |
00:44:40 |
in Philadelphia too." |
00:44:42 |
Well, why? |
00:44:45 |
Basically, it raised a lot |
00:44:47 |
They had a big Barnes show |
00:44:49 |
and they made a lot of money |
00:44:51 |
- Everybody involved in this |
00:44:55 |
The only person |
00:44:58 |
was Albert Barnes. |
00:45:00 |
Everyone had abandoned him. |
00:45:17 |
- You know, the paintings |
00:45:19 |
and Glanton wants to have |
00:45:22 |
Glanton's using it |
00:45:24 |
Barnes didn't want it |
00:45:25 |
which was as a sort |
00:45:29 |
I mean, we're talking all |
00:45:31 |
wealthy people |
00:45:32 |
with their Rollses |
00:45:34 |
came to the party, |
00:45:36 |
and they're just all up and down |
00:45:39 |
- The Philadelphia swells |
00:45:43 |
And once again, Richard Glanton |
00:45:48 |
of the Barnes art. |
00:45:50 |
But what he didn't reckon with |
00:45:54 |
- Chaos. |
00:45:55 |
It was absolute chaos. |
00:45:57 |
Nothing had ever happened |
00:45:58 |
in the 18 years |
00:45:59 |
Was this the first of many? |
00:46:02 |
Was this-- our neighborhood |
00:46:05 |
(Music continues) |
00:46:07 |
- The Barnes Foundation |
00:46:09 |
has been here |
00:46:10 |
Iived in perfect harmony |
00:46:11 |
with the neighborhood |
00:46:14 |
and all of a sudden, it becomes |
00:46:19 |
- This is from Quebec also. |
00:46:21 |
This is three buses today |
00:46:24 |
- Our neighborhood |
00:46:26 |
top to bottom. |
00:46:27 |
Five days a week, |
00:46:29 |
were coming and parking |
00:46:34 |
and parking in my driveway. |
00:46:36 |
I mean, it happened |
00:46:38 |
- My kitchen sink |
00:46:40 |
and I guess I spend |
00:46:42 |
So every time I saw a bus, |
00:46:44 |
I would run out with the camera |
00:46:47 |
I don't know |
00:46:48 |
but that's how I feel. |
00:46:50 |
Richard Glanton referred to me |
00:46:52 |
that he was being harassed |
00:46:55 |
That was me-- |
00:46:56 |
I felt very powerful |
00:46:57 |
- I'd brought the Barnes |
00:47:02 |
and opened it up, |
00:47:03 |
and it's weird |
00:47:06 |
refused to accept that. |
00:47:11 |
- We went to the township |
00:47:13 |
to see about fast-tracking |
00:47:16 |
to build a parking lot. |
00:47:18 |
And Richard very much wanted |
00:47:19 |
this parking lot fast-tracked |
00:47:22 |
- You're operating |
00:47:23 |
in a residential neighborhood. |
00:47:25 |
And putting a parking lot in, |
00:47:27 |
would have made it easier |
00:47:29 |
a commercial museum |
00:47:31 |
in a residential neighborhood. |
00:47:33 |
- Questions? |
00:47:34 |
- We went |
00:47:35 |
All the neighbors went |
00:47:37 |
and people made speeches |
00:47:39 |
I got up, |
00:47:41 |
I said, I understood now |
00:47:44 |
And a carpetbagger |
00:47:45 |
from another jurisdiction, |
00:47:47 |
and, in fact, they call judges |
00:47:49 |
when they do that, |
00:47:50 |
and referring to Mr. Glanton |
00:47:53 |
I referred to Mr. Glanton |
00:47:55 |
and that was the end of it. |
00:47:59 |
- The township said |
00:48:01 |
a parking lot. |
00:48:03 |
Richard was not happy |
00:48:06 |
- It wasn't about the cars |
00:48:09 |
It was about something else. |
00:48:10 |
It was about being hostile. |
00:48:12 |
I don't know why. |
00:48:14 |
You know, I just said, |
00:48:16 |
I mean, I'm just gonna bring |
00:48:18 |
(frantic instrumental music) |
00:48:20 |
- Dr. Herman brought me |
00:48:22 |
and he said, |
00:48:23 |
but I need you to sit down." |
00:48:26 |
I had no idea |
00:48:28 |
Because of my use of the word |
00:48:31 |
and "his people," |
00:48:33 |
they used those two phrases |
00:48:36 |
for a civil rights action. |
00:48:39 |
- Glanton ordered |
00:48:43 |
to begin preparations |
00:48:45 |
against the Lower Merion |
00:48:48 |
and the neighbors |
00:48:49 |
under the federal |
00:48:55 |
- They accused us of conspiracy |
00:48:58 |
to deprive them |
00:49:00 |
but motivated |
00:49:01 |
- They compared not only me, |
00:49:03 |
but they compared others of us |
00:49:05 |
They showed pictures of people |
00:49:10 |
and associated that |
00:49:13 |
And I'm thinking, |
00:49:16 |
I got up, |
00:49:18 |
that I have buses |
00:49:20 |
and I can't get out |
00:49:21 |
What am I doing here |
00:49:23 |
in the middle |
00:49:24 |
being called Hitler? " |
00:49:30 |
- All over Philadelphia |
00:49:32 |
in law firms |
00:49:35 |
the legal fees |
00:49:38 |
And the Barnes's already skimpy |
00:49:43 |
It was just being drained. |
00:49:45 |
- They get all this money spent |
00:49:47 |
to Paris and Tokyo |
00:49:51 |
and made a huge pile of money, |
00:49:54 |
I don't want to say |
00:49:56 |
I should say something |
00:49:57 |
You can cut that one out, okay? |
00:50:01 |
- Richard Glanton thought |
00:50:04 |
and say, "We drop out. |
00:50:05 |
We're dropping out." |
00:50:06 |
He just picked |
00:50:08 |
- Eventually, the entire case |
00:50:11 |
Judge Brody said there was not |
00:50:15 |
in any of the evidence |
00:50:19 |
- In this particular situation, |
00:50:20 |
there's not ever a comment made |
00:50:24 |
preceded by the word "hostile." |
00:50:26 |
- Their PR firm has maintained |
00:50:29 |
The PR firm has maintained |
00:50:32 |
I mean, if that's what people |
00:50:34 |
that we harassed them |
00:50:35 |
and that we are devious, |
00:50:37 |
we've given up trying. |
00:50:39 |
- Over a zoning board issue |
00:50:41 |
was the Ku Klux Klan Act |
00:50:46 |
And the mischief that followed |
00:50:52 |
I mean, thus the whole story |
00:50:56 |
of a 52-car parking lot. |
00:51:03 |
The president |
00:51:05 |
is desperate to get Glanton |
00:51:07 |
and in her fury |
00:51:10 |
over the dismissal |
00:51:15 |
she prepared a draft letter |
00:51:18 |
to the trustees |
00:51:20 |
suggesting that it was time |
00:51:28 |
- People can have |
00:51:30 |
They're entitled to them. |
00:51:31 |
But, uh...my story is |
00:51:35 |
that it was a second rebirth |
00:51:37 |
during my tenure as president. |
00:51:41 |
I tried to do something |
00:51:43 |
that was different, |
00:51:46 |
And I knew I had no time |
00:51:50 |
What was that dog's name? |
00:51:52 |
Cerebus, who guards |
00:51:54 |
Was after me. |
00:51:57 |
I had been approached about |
00:52:00 |
to the Philadelphia |
00:52:03 |
on at least two occasions, |
00:52:05 |
and I was approached |
00:52:07 |
to some other institutions |
00:52:10 |
But I had no intention |
00:52:13 |
while somebody else ruled, |
00:52:14 |
and that was, in their view, |
00:52:18 |
They laid the groundwork, |
00:52:21 |
saying the money |
00:52:23 |
ruined the Barnes, |
00:52:25 |
It had more money than it had |
00:52:28 |
and a new building. |
00:52:30 |
- Curiously, Glanton said to me |
00:52:35 |
that-- and this is |
00:52:37 |
but that he was the bulwark |
00:52:41 |
stealing the Barnes. |
00:52:44 |
And in a perverse way, |
00:52:46 |
I think Richard Glanton was |
00:52:49 |
- I was just like, |
00:52:53 |
"Go do your master's bidding. |
00:52:57 |
Run it into the ground, |
00:52:59 |
And literally, that's what |
00:53:02 |
I said, "They're gonna run it |
00:53:08 |
- I'm sure I saw the letter. |
00:53:11 |
I'm not gonna say |
00:53:13 |
were accurate, per se. |
00:53:17 |
But once he left, |
00:53:19 |
there was not |
00:53:23 |
with those who remained. |
00:53:26 |
And in the long run, I thought |
00:53:28 |
to drag the Barnes down. |
00:53:31 |
(dramatic music) |
00:53:34 |
(Music continues) |
00:53:42 |
(soft piano music) |
00:53:45 |
- And so there we were, |
00:53:48 |
minus Richard Glanton, |
00:53:50 |
with the Barnes's |
00:53:53 |
reduced to virtually nothing. |
00:53:55 |
- Barnes Foundation, |
00:53:58 |
without an effective |
00:54:00 |
sitting in this building |
00:54:04 |
So these forces began |
00:54:07 |
and work towards something |
00:54:09 |
that had absolutely nothing |
00:54:15 |
with the agreement |
00:54:18 |
and the state of Pennsylvania |
00:54:23 |
All of that was sort of |
00:54:25 |
while politicians |
00:54:30 |
and cultural mavens |
00:54:49 |
- The Barnes was given |
00:54:51 |
by the foundations |
00:54:54 |
so that they could claim |
00:54:56 |
to help |
00:54:57 |
But that was never, |
00:55:00 |
- Foundations are |
00:55:03 |
We're used to hearing about |
00:55:05 |
with for-profit corporations. |
00:55:07 |
But this was a non-profit |
00:55:10 |
And the first thing |
00:55:12 |
is remake the board of trustees |
00:55:13 |
so you have a compliant board |
00:55:17 |
- In the period after |
00:55:21 |
the foundation was |
00:55:24 |
It was still controlled |
00:55:26 |
Four of the five board members |
00:55:30 |
The president |
00:55:32 |
put on the board by Lincoln |
00:55:38 |
- Watson was very |
00:55:41 |
a professional |
00:55:45 |
and he was the chairman |
00:55:48 |
the Tourist Bureau. |
00:55:51 |
- In the midst of that |
00:55:53 |
steps up |
00:55:58 |
They were going |
00:56:00 |
I think it was $150 million. |
00:56:02 |
From the very beginning, |
00:56:04 |
Pew's thought was, |
00:56:05 |
"Well, we're gonna give |
00:56:07 |
We're gonna get something |
00:56:08 |
We want some control." |
00:56:09 |
- It was pretty clear to me |
00:56:11 |
they weren't just gonna give |
00:56:15 |
without getting control |
00:56:20 |
- Well, if you're |
00:56:21 |
your duty was to maintain |
00:56:23 |
between Barnes and Lincoln, |
00:56:24 |
because that was part |
00:56:27 |
I mean, what's Lincoln have |
00:56:31 |
He makes his living |
00:56:34 |
and people who want this thing |
00:56:36 |
Watson went ahead |
00:56:39 |
that cut Lincoln out. |
00:56:42 |
The only way for a Pew |
00:56:45 |
to get control, |
00:56:47 |
to be able |
00:56:49 |
was for the indenture |
00:56:52 |
for them to go to court |
00:56:54 |
that Barnes laid down. |
00:56:56 |
Lincoln didn't have a clue. |
00:56:58 |
Watson and these |
00:57:00 |
had a plan to basically |
00:57:03 |
Right? |
00:57:07 |
They got an attorney and tried |
00:57:11 |
- There were enough people |
00:57:13 |
that the plan was starting |
00:57:18 |
where more aggressive tactics |
00:57:25 |
- Ed Rendell, the governor |
00:57:27 |
starts to put pressure |
00:57:30 |
He's the governor. |
00:57:31 |
He controls the purse strings |
00:57:32 |
of this state-affiliated |
00:57:35 |
He said, |
00:57:36 |
"Lincoln, you could be in, |
00:57:39 |
"if you go along |
00:57:40 |
What have you gotten |
00:57:43 |
Along with Rendell, |
00:57:46 |
that he's gonna help pressure |
00:57:49 |
And the thing that he has |
00:57:52 |
"You get nothing, Lincoln, |
00:57:57 |
- I don't know that we were |
00:57:59 |
"We can take this away |
00:58:01 |
because that would take |
00:58:04 |
but I had to explain |
00:58:06 |
you know, maybe |
00:58:08 |
would have to take some action |
00:58:12 |
that might have to change |
00:58:15 |
And whether I said that directly |
00:58:18 |
I think they finally got |
00:58:20 |
And when they say-- |
00:58:24 |
It was portrayed |
00:58:25 |
and the governor |
00:58:28 |
The governor had the money. |
00:58:31 |
And the governor had some money |
00:58:34 |
so that automatically made |
00:58:43 |
There was some money proposed |
00:58:48 |
some of the perhaps |
00:58:50 |
that they might have. |
00:58:51 |
- As I recall, |
00:58:53 |
And I said, "You tell me |
00:58:55 |
the $40 million on." |
00:59:01 |
- That's not a whole lot |
00:59:03 |
but it's a whole lot of money |
00:59:08 |
I think that was part |
00:59:10 |
of Lincoln letting go. |
00:59:13 |
- They weren't blackmailed |
00:59:17 |
If you ask the board, |
00:59:18 |
I made it abundantly clear |
00:59:22 |
that they were getting |
00:59:34 |
- They pressured the shit |
00:59:37 |
And in the end, they caved. |
00:59:41 |
What the Philadelphia |
00:59:44 |
is what takes place all the time |
00:59:47 |
which is to take over the board |
00:59:49 |
by adding new positions |
00:59:53 |
You don't go in |
00:59:54 |
that are there. |
00:59:56 |
You just put ten more on |
00:59:57 |
so that those five |
01:00:02 |
Watson negotiated a deal |
01:00:06 |
Lincoln's participation |
01:00:09 |
of the foundation. |
01:00:10 |
Yeah, he betrayed Barnes, |
01:00:15 |
But, you know, to the extent |
01:00:17 |
on the board thinking, |
01:00:18 |
you're going to keep Lincoln |
01:00:20 |
he betrayed them too. |
01:00:29 |
- They sold Lincoln University |
01:00:33 |
They sold it down the creek. |
01:00:34 |
And they had no right |
01:00:39 |
- And the Philadelphia |
01:00:42 |
who he determined |
01:00:44 |
that never would they get |
01:00:47 |
now have it in their hands. |
01:00:55 |
- From the public side, |
01:00:56 |
from what, you know, me |
01:00:57 |
and every other |
01:01:00 |
the first thing we got was, |
01:01:01 |
"Oh, all these foundations |
01:01:04 |
the Barnes Foundation." |
01:01:06 |
- The foundation said, |
01:01:08 |
they're there to serve |
01:01:09 |
I mean, they get-- |
01:01:11 |
So these places, |
01:01:12 |
whether it's Pew or Annenberg |
01:01:14 |
they have |
01:01:18 |
- The responsibility should be, |
01:01:20 |
"How do you keep this going? " |
01:01:22 |
Not, "How do you exploit this? " |
01:01:23 |
"How do you preserve it? " |
01:01:25 |
(dramatic music) |
01:01:28 |
They didn't say |
01:01:32 |
What was their real goal? |
01:01:40 |
(Music continues) |
01:01:45 |
- From NPR news, |
01:01:47 |
I'm Michele Norris. |
01:01:48 |
- And I'm Robert Siegel. |
01:01:49 |
After two years |
01:01:51 |
one of the world's |
01:01:53 |
of Impressionist art |
01:01:57 |
Today a Pennsylvania |
01:01:58 |
that the Barnes Foundation |
01:02:01 |
from the suburbs |
01:02:03 |
in downtown Philadelphia. |
01:02:05 |
(Music continues) |
01:02:07 |
- Dr. AIbert Barnes |
01:02:09 |
selling pharmaceuticals. |
01:02:10 |
He spent it acquiring paintings |
01:02:13 |
Cezanne, and other masters. |
01:02:16 |
But two years ago, |
01:02:17 |
the foundation |
01:02:19 |
announced it was broke. |
01:02:21 |
Since it's prohibited |
01:02:23 |
hanging in its |
01:02:24 |
it asked for a court's |
01:02:27 |
to a new gallery |
01:02:28 |
where it could draw |
01:02:29 |
and raise more money. |
01:02:33 |
Rebecca Rimel is CEO |
01:02:35 |
one of three philanthropies |
01:02:37 |
that are offering to raise |
01:02:39 |
and $50 million to replenish |
01:02:41 |
the foundation's |
01:02:43 |
- The judge felt, |
01:02:44 |
and of course we have felt |
01:02:46 |
that this is not only honoring |
01:02:49 |
but making sure |
01:02:50 |
will be available |
01:02:52 |
- Barnes officials |
01:02:54 |
but admitted there was |
01:02:56 |
before the paintings Ieave |
01:02:58 |
(birds chirping) |
01:03:01 |
- The foundation became |
01:03:04 |
fiscally impossible to sustain |
01:03:09 |
I think it was three or four |
01:03:11 |
and tried to make the Barnes |
01:03:15 |
in Lower Merion. |
01:03:16 |
They failed. |
01:03:17 |
- There were very strict limits |
01:03:19 |
on the number of people |
01:03:21 |
The community was very hard |
01:03:24 |
those limits were adhered to. |
01:03:27 |
- You've got |
01:03:29 |
being hidden away |
01:03:31 |
Down in Philadelphia, |
01:03:33 |
ten times more people a day |
01:03:36 |
And then it's too small. |
01:03:39 |
The building is too small. |
01:03:42 |
- There is such an emphasis |
01:03:44 |
the artistic ensemble method |
01:03:48 |
that Barnes seemed to favor |
01:03:49 |
of hanging and arranging |
01:03:52 |
So I think people |
01:03:53 |
the kind of experience |
01:03:56 |
- And then you have |
01:03:58 |
of what this would do |
01:04:02 |
to be a great tourism |
01:04:05 |
(alarm clock rings) |
01:04:07 |
- # There's so much to do, |
01:04:08 |
# There's nowhere that |
01:04:11 |
# 'cause Philly's more fun. # |
01:04:12 |
- If you were to add the Barnes |
01:04:15 |
there isn't a couple |
01:04:18 |
in the United States |
01:04:20 |
who's interested |
01:04:23 |
who wouldn't come |
01:04:24 |
for at least a long weekend. |
01:04:26 |
- Visitors here spend |
01:04:31 |
So if you have more visitors, |
01:04:35 |
even looking at it |
01:04:37 |
the Barnes located |
01:04:40 |
would be able to accommodate |
01:04:42 |
four times as many visitors |
01:04:45 |
So you can start doing |
01:04:48 |
- This collection should be |
01:04:52 |
as humanly possible |
01:04:53 |
in the best, |
01:04:55 |
that we can do. |
01:04:57 |
This was always |
01:04:59 |
It wasn't a tough decision |
01:05:02 |
- Book our two-night package |
01:05:04 |
and see why Philly's more fun |
01:05:19 |
- These, I would say, |
01:05:22 |
the key political backers |
01:05:23 |
and financial backers |
01:05:27 |
primarily, |
01:05:29 |
and its director, |
01:05:34 |
in consortium with, |
01:05:37 |
as part of a cabal, |
01:05:39 |
with the Lenfest Foundation-- |
01:05:42 |
who has a powerful conflict |
01:05:44 |
as the chairman of the trustees |
01:05:47 |
of the Philadelphia Museum |
01:05:49 |
and supported |
01:05:52 |
and Mayor Street |
01:05:54 |
and Leonore Annenberg, |
01:05:55 |
the widow |
01:05:57 |
who spent much of the last part |
01:06:00 |
trying to gain possession |
01:06:03 |
I'm sure many among them |
01:06:06 |
that what they're doing will be |
01:06:09 |
- We're going to build |
01:06:13 |
for the fabulous |
01:06:16 |
which has no peer |
01:06:19 |
And I'm delighted to be |
01:06:22 |
to make sure this is done |
01:06:25 |
with intelligence, with reason, |
01:06:29 |
(applause) |
01:06:34 |
- My feeling |
01:06:37 |
that it doesn't |
01:06:39 |
saying we need to be |
01:06:42 |
by stealing an art collection |
01:06:47 |
to what I call a "McBarnes" |
01:06:50 |
- This is gonna be a great event |
01:06:54 |
It will-- it will attract |
01:06:57 |
of visitors, I'm told, |
01:07:01 |
The Barnes collection on |
01:07:04 |
would have the economic impact |
01:07:07 |
without the beer. |
01:07:09 |
- A city that has any sense |
01:07:13 |
doesn't talk about becoming |
01:07:16 |
It is what it is. |
01:07:18 |
This is the world class of, |
01:07:22 |
of pep rallies and of building |
01:07:26 |
or a convention center. |
01:07:28 |
That's not what art is about. |
01:07:38 |
- I see the people |
01:07:40 |
the Barnes Foundation |
01:07:44 |
Tourism and, you know, |
01:07:48 |
And the Barnes Foundation |
01:07:52 |
of all this bullshit. |
01:07:56 |
- We're at 20th and the Parkway, |
01:07:59 |
where they intend to build |
01:08:01 |
and they're having some kind |
01:08:03 |
thinking that they're going |
01:08:07 |
So we're here |
01:08:08 |
who are paying for this thing, |
01:08:12 |
that it's a bad idea. |
01:08:13 |
- Attention, everyone. |
01:08:15 |
Welcome, welcome, welcome |
01:08:19 |
Everyone you see around me |
01:08:23 |
are participating |
01:08:25 |
to bring off |
01:08:28 |
since the Second World War. |
01:08:31 |
What you are witnessing here, |
01:08:33 |
Iadies and gentlemen, |
01:08:37 |
- Here's the governor. |
01:08:39 |
(clamoring and chanting) |
01:08:40 |
- You're not a dictator, |
01:08:41 |
and you're not |
01:08:43 |
(chanting and clamoring) |
01:08:48 |
- Dishonorable! |
01:08:49 |
Edward G. Rendell. |
01:08:50 |
(background conversation) |
01:08:52 |
- We're in an economic crisis. |
01:08:55 |
- The world is Iaughing at us. |
01:08:57 |
Break the trust for no reason. |
01:09:01 |
- Please don't break the trust. |
01:09:02 |
- Excuse me, excuse me. |
01:09:04 |
- No integrity. |
01:09:05 |
- Shame on you! |
01:09:08 |
(clamoring) |
01:09:09 |
Shame on you! |
01:09:11 |
Shame on you! |
01:09:14 |
- We're outside the location |
01:09:16 |
where they're planning to put |
01:09:18 |
And they're having some sort |
01:09:21 |
which is very annoying. |
01:09:22 |
Philistines! |
01:09:24 |
And we're just sort of |
01:09:27 |
protesting their party |
01:09:29 |
don't even realize |
01:09:31 |
destroying a man's will, |
01:09:34 |
which half of 'em |
01:09:37 |
Have fun now! |
01:09:38 |
Wait till it's your will! |
01:09:41 |
Barnes was married, |
01:09:44 |
never had anyone |
01:09:46 |
after the fact and said, |
01:09:48 |
"Hey, you know, you screwed |
01:09:51 |
I want the paintings." |
01:09:53 |
The grandchildren |
01:09:54 |
who showed up 50 years later. |
01:09:56 |
- To anyone who's familiar |
01:09:58 |
everything that he said |
01:10:00 |
this will be destructive |
01:10:02 |
I implore you to vote no. |
01:10:07 |
- The motion passes. |
01:10:09 |
Thank you very much. |
01:10:10 |
- Right now |
01:10:12 |
is an organization |
01:10:15 |
to prevent the relocation |
01:10:19 |
- It's such a great |
01:10:21 |
It's almost a Barnesian story, |
01:10:23 |
The heroic little guy fighting |
01:10:26 |
and the downtown oligarchy. |
01:10:30 |
That's what Barnes was doing. |
01:10:31 |
- You get a choice here. |
01:10:32 |
You get a choice |
01:10:34 |
to the folks who live |
01:10:37 |
the people who have been |
01:10:38 |
at the Barnes Foundation. |
01:10:40 |
- We're gonna be happy |
01:10:41 |
but thanks for trying. |
01:10:44 |
- Friends of the Barnes |
01:10:46 |
"We're struggling here. |
01:10:48 |
"We'd really like you to come |
01:10:50 |
to save the Barnes |
01:10:53 |
And I think it was that point |
01:10:54 |
began to build, |
01:10:56 |
and that the residents |
01:10:58 |
had a feeling that, |
01:10:59 |
Philadelphia can't just take |
01:11:01 |
- So would |
01:11:03 |
one of the world's greatest |
01:11:05 |
move from the suburbs |
01:11:08 |
- As Fox 29's Gerald Kolpan |
01:11:10 |
while it appears the Iegal |
01:11:13 |
some say, "Not so fast. " |
01:11:15 |
- Montgomery County |
01:11:17 |
friends of the Barnes |
01:11:19 |
saying that if |
01:11:21 |
could raise the money |
01:11:22 |
they should have been able |
01:11:25 |
to improve the Barnes |
01:11:27 |
There are still unknowns |
01:11:29 |
No one knows just how much |
01:11:32 |
and no one knows how hard |
01:11:36 |
is willing to fight. |
01:11:41 |
- I don't have any respect |
01:11:44 |
and political elite |
01:11:46 |
You know, these are |
01:11:48 |
who basically are doing |
01:11:52 |
This is the Disneyland |
01:11:55 |
That's not what |
01:12:00 |
My primary goal is |
01:12:04 |
by filing a petition |
01:12:07 |
that there were things |
01:12:11 |
that if he had known |
01:12:14 |
that the outcome |
01:12:16 |
What happened is, |
01:12:19 |
a feeding trough |
01:12:22 |
- The story is that the Barnes |
01:12:25 |
has to move |
01:12:28 |
It's not true. |
01:12:30 |
- People wanted it to happen, |
01:12:31 |
and they assessed |
01:12:32 |
They saw what needed to be done |
01:12:35 |
and they're powerful enough |
01:12:37 |
- I'm convinced Judge Ott |
01:12:40 |
and he's gonna do |
01:12:41 |
and when he takes a look |
01:12:43 |
yes, we can survive |
01:12:45 |
and that's where |
01:12:47 |
- The move is not a done deal. |
01:12:51 |
As far as I'm concerned, |
01:13:01 |
- It was a combination |
01:13:06 |
And I think they focused on it |
01:13:07 |
Iike Ahab focused |
01:13:11 |
And I think the objective |
01:13:14 |
and I don't think |
01:13:16 |
thinks about Barnes |
01:13:22 |
I think that this is the glory |
01:13:27 |
- The reason it was permitted |
01:13:30 |
was because the presentation |
01:13:34 |
that it was financially |
01:13:36 |
to stay in Montgomery County |
01:13:40 |
- It was going down the tubes, |
01:13:42 |
and there was no soluble answer |
01:13:45 |
- If anybody can't fund |
01:13:47 |
which is a tiny little budget, |
01:13:54 |
then they ought to find |
01:13:56 |
(birds chirping) |
01:13:59 |
- You can't get |
01:14:02 |
because of the restrictions |
01:14:05 |
They couldn't get enough people |
01:14:07 |
to make it even close |
01:14:10 |
- The truth is, that's not |
01:14:12 |
Lower Merion Township, |
01:14:15 |
and they changed the zoning |
01:14:18 |
The township was able to say |
01:14:20 |
"You're allowed to admit |
01:14:23 |
and open the gallery |
01:14:25 |
So there is real potential here |
01:14:30 |
There was no movement whatsoever |
01:14:33 |
So they didn't allow themselves |
01:14:35 |
and to gain more revenue. |
01:14:37 |
And the supposition is that |
01:14:40 |
because they didn't want people |
01:14:43 |
of accessing |
01:14:45 |
that they wanted people to say, |
01:14:47 |
bring it to Philadelphia, |
01:14:51 |
There are a lot of ways |
01:14:53 |
in Montgomery County. |
01:14:54 |
There was a deal offered |
01:14:56 |
We estimated $50 million. |
01:14:58 |
The county would float a bond |
01:15:03 |
which enables the foundation |
01:15:05 |
an ongoing endowment |
01:15:07 |
to remain in Montgomery County. |
01:15:08 |
- You know, in six weeks, |
01:15:10 |
could have $50 million |
01:15:13 |
you know, they could-- |
01:15:16 |
- This was all opened up |
01:15:19 |
for purposes of negotiation. |
01:15:20 |
There's a way |
01:15:23 |
We had a response back from |
01:15:26 |
"We're not interested in this." |
01:15:28 |
There's got to be a reason |
01:15:30 |
that they're not interested |
01:15:34 |
- They never wanted |
01:15:37 |
They wanted this place |
01:15:41 |
They wanted it to go bust |
01:15:45 |
to bring people in, |
01:15:49 |
because they could then argue |
01:15:52 |
on the basis of the indenture, |
01:15:55 |
they could do it with impunity |
01:15:57 |
to operate the way they wanted. |
01:15:59 |
- So anybody that tells me |
01:16:01 |
to keep it where it is... |
01:16:04 |
is nonsensical. |
01:16:07 |
The forces wanted it moved |
01:16:11 |
(dramatic music) |
01:16:14 |
(Music continues) |
01:16:19 |
- It's fair to say |
01:16:23 |
to move the Barnes. |
01:16:25 |
This obviously involved |
01:16:28 |
the politicians, mayors, |
01:16:34 |
Everybody on that side |
01:16:38 |
and they had something to gain. |
01:16:40 |
I think the real question, |
01:16:43 |
"When did the planning |
01:16:46 |
and who was the lead figure? " |
01:16:48 |
That's the story |
01:16:49 |
(music slows, reverses) |
01:16:52 |
(Music continues) |
01:17:02 |
- In 1995, after sending |
01:17:07 |
the paintings came back |
01:17:09 |
There was a gala dinner |
01:17:12 |
at which a local billionaire, |
01:17:16 |
had a little idea. |
01:17:21 |
- A man by the name |
01:17:23 |
who was then, I think, |
01:17:24 |
chairman of the board |
01:17:26 |
came to see me |
01:17:28 |
of my eight years as mayor |
01:17:29 |
and suggested |
01:17:32 |
to convince the state |
01:17:36 |
The art museum wanted to, |
01:17:38 |
to run it, the benefits |
01:17:41 |
et cetera, et cetera, |
01:17:43 |
So that was probably '95, '94, |
01:17:47 |
- My only personal contact |
01:17:51 |
was to have him scream |
01:17:57 |
while at the same time |
01:18:00 |
for the decision |
01:18:03 |
to downtown Philadelphia. |
01:18:06 |
Ray Perelman is a nasty old man. |
01:18:13 |
Spell my name right |
01:18:15 |
that I'm the one who said that. |
01:18:18 |
Barnes did something that |
01:18:23 |
Ray Perelman does not have |
01:18:26 |
He never will. |
01:18:28 |
And I can understand |
01:18:31 |
He can't do much about it |
01:18:33 |
out of the hands |
01:18:44 |
Part of what Perelman |
01:18:47 |
was convincing anyone |
01:18:51 |
to either side with him |
01:18:54 |
Is that a conspiracy? |
01:18:56 |
I don't know. |
01:18:57 |
One man's conspiracy is another |
01:19:02 |
- Why wouldn't the great |
01:19:05 |
want to save |
01:19:07 |
exactly where it is? |
01:19:09 |
I mean, they are |
01:19:13 |
They should want to preserve |
01:19:16 |
as a really original |
01:19:20 |
Why wouldn't they want |
01:19:23 |
- One of the nation's Iargest |
01:19:25 |
is now a charity. |
01:19:27 |
The Pew Charitable Trusts |
01:19:31 |
The change in status |
01:19:33 |
millions of dollars in taxes |
01:19:35 |
and it will have |
01:19:37 |
on how it can spend |
01:19:39 |
- One of the other things |
01:19:42 |
was that Pew was in the process |
01:19:46 |
for tax reasons |
01:19:49 |
into a public charity. |
01:19:53 |
- One thing that |
01:19:56 |
is demonstrate that it has |
01:20:02 |
very large sums of money. |
01:20:04 |
- Pew also cited another |
01:20:06 |
a new building |
01:20:08 |
in downtown Philadelphia. |
01:20:10 |
Pew's CEO, Rebecca Rimel, |
01:20:13 |
could not only raise money |
01:20:14 |
but administer those funds |
01:20:17 |
- The Barnes was one example |
01:20:20 |
as a public charity |
01:20:22 |
as a private foundation. |
01:20:24 |
- Coincidentally, |
01:20:27 |
"We would be happy to be |
01:20:30 |
"to assemble the funds |
01:20:35 |
of the Barnes Foundation." |
01:20:40 |
- Our application to become |
01:20:42 |
had absolutely nothing to do |
01:20:45 |
- You know, in court, |
01:20:49 |
"Oh, you know, |
01:20:51 |
that's nice, |
01:20:54 |
Well, you go look at |
01:20:57 |
that's all they talk about |
01:21:01 |
- In its filings with the lRS |
01:21:03 |
and the Commonwealth |
01:21:04 |
it specifically alludes |
01:21:09 |
behind moving the Barnes art |
01:21:16 |
- Look, |
01:21:19 |
If you're really in it |
01:21:20 |
you're gonna be a pink lady |
01:21:22 |
You're going to be, you know, |
01:21:25 |
from your church's |
01:21:28 |
These people are power brokers. |
01:21:31 |
Don't for one minute think |
01:21:32 |
that if Rebecca Rimel |
01:21:34 |
"Well, I now have $400 million |
01:21:37 |
"and manipulate various things |
01:21:41 |
"with what clout I have, |
01:21:43 |
"how much clout I'll have |
01:21:44 |
"with a billion a year |
01:21:46 |
instead of only 400 million? " |
01:21:55 |
- And, I might add, |
01:21:57 |
that for the first time |
01:21:58 |
that Pew had now estimated |
01:22:00 |
of the Barnes art was not, |
01:22:02 |
as Glanton had thought, |
01:22:04 |
or I had thought, |
01:22:06 |
But according to the Pew, |
01:22:08 |
it was 25 to $30 billion |
01:22:13 |
The three foundations |
01:22:14 |
that they would give |
01:22:16 |
They said they would raise |
01:22:20 |
Even if they gave $150 million, |
01:22:22 |
it's the greatest bargain maybe |
01:22:26 |
to get $25 billion worth |
01:22:29 |
of irreplaceable |
01:22:33 |
for what, for them, |
01:22:44 |
- On a Friday |
01:22:46 |
in October of 2006, |
01:22:53 |
from someone within |
01:22:58 |
saying that squirreled away |
01:23:05 |
of the state of Pennsylvania |
01:23:10 |
$7 million for upgrades |
01:23:15 |
$100 million |
01:23:33 |
(somber music) |
01:23:37 |
- It's amazing to me |
01:23:38 |
I called the appropriation |
01:23:41 |
because it had no father |
01:23:44 |
Nobody knows who asked |
01:23:49 |
So maybe it was |
01:23:51 |
We don't know. |
01:23:54 |
- The budget bill is a very |
01:23:58 |
and 99% of the other members |
01:24:01 |
of the General Assembly, |
01:24:03 |
didn't know when they voted |
01:24:06 |
that particular project |
01:24:10 |
- It was never publicized, |
01:24:12 |
the judge didn't know, |
01:24:13 |
but the people who were trying |
01:24:16 |
within that group of people... |
01:24:20 |
It's-- it would be unbelievable |
01:24:26 |
The rescue operation said, |
01:24:31 |
"to build a new building |
01:24:33 |
for the Barnes Foundation." |
01:24:36 |
The state budget |
01:24:40 |
to build a new building |
01:24:44 |
in downtown Philadelphia. |
01:24:45 |
What a coincidence, |
01:24:46 |
a shocking coincidence. |
01:24:48 |
- All the big-money people |
01:24:52 |
you can't tell me |
01:24:53 |
$100 million |
01:24:56 |
Some senator didn't wake up |
01:24:58 |
"I'm just gonna do this." |
01:25:00 |
Somebody with influence |
01:25:03 |
Whoever that person was-- |
01:25:08 |
never let on in court |
01:25:11 |
Here you come to court, |
01:25:14 |
"There's no other way |
01:25:16 |
We got to move |
01:25:17 |
Had the judge known that, |
01:25:19 |
oh, the state could put up |
01:25:22 |
it would have been |
01:25:24 |
- Rebecca Rimel professes, |
01:25:27 |
"We didn't have anything |
01:25:29 |
But all these people that would |
01:25:31 |
I mean, you have to understand, |
01:25:32 |
The Pew Trusts, at the same time |
01:25:35 |
filed for public charity status. |
01:25:38 |
But in order to show |
01:25:40 |
you have to be getting money |
01:25:43 |
- The Pew Charitable Trust |
01:25:45 |
was worth $4 billion. |
01:25:47 |
Who in their right mind |
01:25:49 |
to a $4 billion foundation? |
01:25:54 |
- Apparently, for some reason, |
01:25:57 |
Governor Rendell |
01:25:58 |
that this is |
01:26:00 |
for the city of Philadelphia |
01:26:01 |
and has allocated $25 million |
01:26:05 |
out of that $100 million |
01:26:08 |
- One of the neat things |
01:26:11 |
you can administer money |
01:26:14 |
including the Commonwealth |
01:26:17 |
Pew gets credit for that as, |
01:26:22 |
That counts towards |
01:26:26 |
I'm not quite so naive |
01:26:28 |
that no one knew about |
01:26:31 |
Maybe it was a typo. |
01:26:33 |
I don't know. |
01:26:34 |
But she didn't know anything |
01:26:38 |
- People involved |
01:26:40 |
of the Barnes Foundation |
01:26:44 |
and kept that information |
01:26:46 |
- Is that a linchpin? |
01:26:48 |
It's like, what are |
01:26:51 |
that should have been brought |
01:26:53 |
If I had been a judge, |
01:26:55 |
which probably |
01:26:56 |
I would have, if I had learned |
01:26:59 |
"You know what? |
01:27:01 |
"These proceedings |
01:27:03 |
"The parties should |
01:27:05 |
a piece of that money to keep it |
01:27:08 |
- If I was Judge Ott, |
01:27:11 |
I'd be looking for a way |
01:27:15 |
Because he got taken for a ride. |
01:27:18 |
I don't know many judges |
01:27:20 |
in their courtrooms. |
01:27:22 |
I don't know many judges |
01:27:25 |
Judge Ott was made a fool of |
01:27:31 |
(birds chirping) |
01:27:34 |
- So you see all these |
01:27:38 |
and if I were |
01:27:41 |
I'd think an enormous conspiracy |
01:27:44 |
of moneyed interests |
01:27:48 |
to have their way, |
01:27:49 |
to manipulate the treasury |
01:27:52 |
to manipulate the legal system |
01:27:55 |
to manipulate Dr. Barnes' |
01:27:59 |
to manipulate |
01:28:02 |
to play on this needy |
01:28:05 |
so desperate for money |
01:28:06 |
and know that $50 million would |
01:28:09 |
to what was really |
01:28:11 |
- I just think they wanted |
01:28:15 |
and the whole establishment |
01:28:20 |
They don't like to have |
01:28:24 |
I think they're used |
01:28:25 |
and this is the way, |
01:28:27 |
you're standing in the way. |
01:28:36 |
- If any major figure within |
01:28:39 |
wanted to speak |
01:28:42 |
they could kiss the |
01:28:45 |
They could kiss |
01:28:47 |
They could kiss the |
01:28:50 |
Perhaps they could kiss |
01:28:52 |
No one could speak. |
01:28:56 |
- Yeah, but the news is |
01:28:58 |
- Sir, that's all I'm asking. |
01:28:59 |
- I'm asking-- |
01:29:01 |
- And I'm telling |
01:29:02 |
- You're not giving me |
01:29:04 |
Are news crews allowed in |
01:29:06 |
- If the news |
01:29:09 |
and we are part of the press, |
01:29:10 |
then we should be allowed inside |
01:29:12 |
- No, no, those press |
01:29:14 |
- Right, |
01:29:16 |
- So even though the mayor's |
01:29:18 |
open to the press |
01:29:19 |
- You're not invited. |
01:29:20 |
Please step out of... |
01:29:22 |
Please step out. |
01:29:23 |
- People in museums in New York, |
01:29:26 |
in Chicago and Dallas |
01:29:29 |
didn't say a goddamn word |
01:29:32 |
I think they were scared. |
01:29:34 |
They were frightened |
01:29:36 |
who are benevolent |
01:29:38 |
to all kinds of causes. |
01:29:40 |
Some of them have supported |
01:29:42 |
And I've often wondered |
01:29:43 |
if I'm not endangering |
01:29:45 |
by complaining about |
01:29:48 |
- You know, I'm afraid. |
01:29:51 |
I realize I'm putting some part |
01:29:55 |
at risk by doing this. |
01:29:56 |
I don't know how they would |
01:29:58 |
but if they wanted to, |
01:29:59 |
they can make anybody's life |
01:30:02 |
- The forces that, in effect, |
01:30:07 |
are almost overwhelming. |
01:30:09 |
You could ask |
01:30:10 |
"Who speaks for the art |
01:30:14 |
"when so many powerful political |
01:30:21 |
are at work against it? " |
01:30:36 |
- (clears throat) |
01:30:39 |
(ignition starts) |
01:30:44 |
(soft piano music) |
01:30:45 |
(Music continues) |
01:30:49 |
- Yeah, it's a big day. |
01:30:50 |
Today's oral arguments, |
01:30:54 |
what both sides |
01:30:55 |
to the judge in writing |
01:30:58 |
they're gonna repeat, |
01:31:03 |
And he'll decide |
01:31:08 |
and convene some hearings |
01:31:10 |
to decide whether |
01:31:12 |
should still be permitted |
01:31:15 |
or he'll pretty much, |
01:31:18 |
throw us out of court, |
01:31:23 |
(Music continues) |
01:31:24 |
- It's all |
01:31:26 |
If Stanley wants to undo it, |
01:31:29 |
He can say that he was given |
01:31:32 |
the first time through |
01:31:34 |
and the record |
01:31:37 |
and it deserves |
01:31:38 |
And I think he's a good enough |
01:31:43 |
- We have an obligation to do |
01:31:45 |
what Dr. Barnes |
01:31:47 |
and I think that's the essence |
01:31:49 |
that not enough was done |
01:31:51 |
what can be done |
01:31:53 |
Some people, like the Friends |
01:31:55 |
aren't gonna let that happen, |
01:31:56 |
and hopefully, |
01:32:01 |
- Unfortunately, |
01:32:03 |
a big political football, |
01:32:04 |
and it never should have |
01:32:07 |
- In that sense, Richard Glanton |
01:32:10 |
Glanton said, when I asked him |
01:32:13 |
"It's about who controls |
01:32:17 |
and everything else |
01:32:19 |
Well, no, Richard was wrong. |
01:32:22 |
It's about who controls |
01:32:26 |
and everything else |
01:32:28 |
(Music continues) |
01:32:43 |
(birds chirping) |
01:32:50 |
(traffic whooshes) |
01:33:09 |
- Well, Wednesday night, |
01:33:11 |
and there was an email |
01:33:14 |
the subject heading |
01:33:16 |
had issued his decision. |
01:33:21 |
He apparently has decided |
01:33:23 |
he's not going to investigate |
01:33:30 |
any of the matters |
01:33:32 |
to the court's attention. |
01:33:33 |
He had declined |
01:33:35 |
by declaring that none |
01:33:38 |
that is, the Friends |
01:33:40 |
and Montgomery County, |
01:33:41 |
had standing to intervene |
01:33:50 |
(drill whirs) |
01:34:01 |
(siren blares) |
01:34:05 |
I don't think that the judge |
01:34:06 |
or the trustees |
01:34:08 |
or anybody who's |
01:34:11 |
who sincerely supports the move |
01:34:17 |
that they understand what it is |
01:34:22 |
It'll be a tragedy, |
01:34:23 |
and it'll be |
01:34:25 |
This is not some minor thing. |
01:34:32 |
It's not often in life |
01:34:34 |
for something |
01:34:36 |
and I've gotten a chance |
01:34:40 |
I would've much rather be |
01:34:48 |
whatever the opposite |
01:34:52 |
(Music continues) |
01:34:59 |
- So the city |
01:35:04 |
The governor does too. |
01:35:06 |
The governor makes his friends |
01:35:08 |
Pew gets to control the art. |
01:35:11 |
Gerry Lenfest |
01:35:14 |
is chairman of the museum. |
01:35:16 |
The museum finally, |
01:35:18 |
It's virtually an appendage. |
01:35:20 |
And Annenberg people get |
01:35:26 |
And if it's not the destruction |
01:35:28 |
what is it? |
01:35:36 |
- Sort of expect |
01:35:38 |
an Annenberg and a Lenfest |
01:35:40 |
of this new Barnes building. |
01:35:41 |
And at some point Barnes |
01:35:45 |
You get-- you can probably get |
01:35:47 |
with his name on it, |
01:36:02 |
- Maybe that's a way of having |
01:36:04 |
to the forefront and be |
01:36:06 |
It'll be the leader in showing |
01:36:09 |
and how to break-- how to break |
01:36:12 |
You know, maybe that's a good, |
01:36:16 |
They can have, you know-- |
01:36:17 |
ring a special Liberty Bell |
01:36:29 |
- And I think not only |
01:36:31 |
by having it moved, |
01:36:32 |
he'll be violated |
01:36:34 |
he wanted you to have, |
01:36:36 |
and that's important, |
01:36:40 |
it belonged to him. |
01:36:41 |
He had the right to do with it |
01:36:44 |
And these people, |
01:36:48 |
and took it away from him. |
01:37:01 |
- These are not people |
01:37:04 |
These are people who are |
01:37:09 |
And who would destroy what is... |
01:37:15 |
a perfect jewel box... |
01:37:21 |
and also a kind of |
01:37:30 |
You know, |
01:37:31 |
is to see the art as Barnes, |
01:37:34 |
for all of his greatness |
01:37:40 |
And it is, in its way... |
01:37:48 |
(dramatic music) |
01:37:51 |
Matisse said |
01:37:53 |
to see art in America. |
01:37:56 |
I'll wager Matisse |
01:38:00 |
and Rebecca Rimel any day, |
01:38:04 |
and I bet Dr. Barnes |
01:38:06 |
I think he might say, |
01:38:12 |
(pensive music) |
01:38:15 |
(Music continues) |