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00:00:38	This is it.
00:00:39	l'm standing on the very spot
00:00:41	where many Christians believe
00:00:44	lt's called Megiddo.
00:00:46	And it's the place that
00:00:48	Jesus Christ
00:00:51	to end the world and save
00:00:54	Now when Revelations
00:00:56	only God had the capacity
00:00:59	but now man does too,
00:01:03	before man figured out
00:01:05	or peaceful, he figured out
00:01:08	and how to pollute
00:01:10	And if it's one thing
00:01:13	it's self-fulfilling prophecy.
00:01:18	Sometimes in your search
00:01:21	you ponder the meaning
00:01:24	Who am l?
00:01:26	Death, and then what?
00:01:31	l certainly honestly believe
00:01:33	religion is detrimental
00:01:36	to the progress
00:01:38	You know, it's just selling
00:01:40	lt's too easy.
00:01:42	These questions
00:01:45	they so freak people out
00:01:49	that they will
00:01:52	and cling to it.
00:01:54	You know, things that they know
00:01:56	can't be true,
00:01:59	so rational about everything else,
00:02:01	and then they believe that
00:02:03	on Sunday
00:02:05	of a 2,000-year-old God.
00:02:08	l can't--
00:02:11	l can't-- l have to find out.
00:02:14	l just have to find out.
00:02:41	This is the Mount of Olives.
00:02:45	We're here freezing our ass off.
00:02:52	ls there anybody on the stage that
00:02:55	- does not believe in evolution?
00:03:00	Hurry hurry hurry.
00:03:06	- l like my hat.
00:03:09	Welcome to Bible Country!
00:03:11	''Birthplace of the Virgin Mary''?
00:03:16	l believe that God wants
00:03:19	That's what l believe,
00:03:21	and that's one part
00:03:27	Bill, watch out.
00:03:32	Boy, do l feel cheap.
00:03:40	l want to thank God
00:03:42	Music has been
00:03:44	Thank you, Jesus!
00:03:46	You need a Holy Ghost enema
00:04:00	The archives are there on the fifth
00:04:02	Yeah, put that away now.
00:04:07	lf you look at my stand-up
00:04:09	from like the '80s-- that era--
00:04:12	early '90s,
00:04:15	l talked about religion,
00:04:19	l'm just making fun
00:04:21	in the religion--
00:04:23	Circumcision--
00:04:25	to have been there for
00:04:29	We're used to it now,
00:04:31	l'm sure when Moses came
00:04:33	there had to be one guy going,
00:04:35	''Let me get this straight.''
00:04:38	lt was just
00:04:40	lt's almost like
00:04:42	My mother is Jewish and my father
00:04:45	l was raised Catholic formally,
00:04:47	although l must say
00:04:49	even in the Catholic system.
00:04:51	We used to go into confession
00:04:53	and l would bring
00:05:00	You know.
00:05:02	Bless me, Father,
00:05:04	l think you know Mr. Cohen.
00:05:10	So let me get out some pictures.
00:05:13	There's me.
00:05:15	We weren't brought up Jewish.
00:05:17	l didn't even know
00:05:20	so it was very Catholic.
00:05:22	We went to church
00:05:25	but l wouldn't take off the gun
00:05:27	and really when l think back,
00:05:29	it wasn't relevant
00:05:31	Superman was relevant
00:05:35	We had this family
00:05:37	where one person
00:05:40	and the other three
00:05:43	Now there it says
00:05:46	so we must've
00:05:49	'cause l'm in a red suit
00:05:51	and you're choking the dog.
00:05:54	And l guess we got home from church
00:05:58	lt never occurred to me to say,
00:06:00	''Why didn't you go to church?''
00:06:01	Mom...
00:06:03	what church do we belong to?
00:06:06	l don't remember
00:06:08	Of course you didn't go
00:06:10	No, we never had a family
00:06:12	We never had
00:06:14	Every family is dysfunctional.
00:06:18	So you thought even this,
00:06:21	was better than no religion.
00:06:23	Well, even this only
00:06:27	l thought.
00:06:28	But it's just so shamelessly
00:06:32	- We can say that now.
00:06:35	When we quit
00:06:38	and l was of course thrilled,
00:06:41	l was just thrilled
00:06:43	lt scared me.
00:06:45	l had to get up
00:06:47	l was 1 3.
00:06:48	l would've worshiped anything
00:06:51	to masturbate even more
00:06:54	or get a girl. That god l would have
00:06:58	Why do you remember
00:07:00	Dad stopped going to church?
00:07:02	We used birth control,
00:07:05	and the church frowned
00:07:08	That was the biggest sin
00:07:10	- you could ever commit.
00:07:14	l think that was possibly--
00:07:17	And he never went back.
00:07:20	So now that we don't believe,
00:07:23	where did--
00:07:25	Nobody said we don't believe.
00:07:26	We don't believe in Catholicism.
00:07:31	Right, but what do
00:07:34	Come on.
00:07:38	l don't know
00:07:40	That's my answer.
00:07:41	We'll take some back roads to see
00:07:45	- some interesting stuff out here.
00:07:47	We are heading toward Raleigh, right?
00:07:49	Oh, yeah, man, can't you feel it?
00:08:14	Do l stand up here?
00:08:16	l just jotted down
00:08:19	Are you ever bothered
00:08:22	that are in Christianity
00:08:25	Like original sin.
00:08:28	lmmaculate conception.
00:08:29	The virgin birth is only
00:08:33	Are you worried that these things
00:08:36	the people that wrote
00:08:39	and this is indisputable--
00:08:41	from human beings
00:08:43	And when l say men,
00:08:48	lf you wanna go back
00:08:49	l think it was determined
00:08:51	went around a while back--
00:08:53	- Shroud of Turin?
00:08:56	and it was female blood
00:08:58	Okay, the only possible way
00:09:00	that the Holy Ghost
00:09:04	because it would've
00:09:06	because it would've been
00:09:10	- lt's a faith thing.
00:09:12	Why is believing something
00:09:15	l don't like the way
00:09:16	l don't know what
00:09:18	but l don't like
00:09:20	You start disputing my God,
00:09:23	and you got a problem.
00:09:27	l'm outta here. You do what
00:09:33	- l'm just asking questions.
00:09:35	When l've seen what l've seen,
00:09:38	You can't change my mind.
00:09:41	l walked for 30 years
00:09:44	From the time l grew up,
00:09:46	For the last six years,
00:09:49	l was a Satanist priest, okay?
00:09:51	- Real Satanism?
00:09:53	Being addicted to drugs,
00:09:56	and the women
00:09:58	l walked around with rolls
00:10:01	l gave all that up
00:10:03	When the guy said,
00:10:05	l used to have women,''
00:10:09	- ''And your problem was?''
00:10:12	Let me ask you this question:
00:10:13	What if we're right
00:10:15	We gonna make it
00:10:17	lf you're being good
00:10:19	just because,
00:10:21	and l just want
00:10:24	and make sure that
00:10:26	that St. Peter doesn't say to me,
00:10:28	'Sorry, asshole,
00:10:30	Enjoy Hell, buh-bye.'''
00:10:32	That's not a good reason,
00:10:34	Come on, believe in Jesus.
00:10:37	lt's like the lotto.
00:10:39	You can't get saved
00:10:41	Yeah, you could be right.
00:10:44	but, yes, you could be right,
00:10:47	That's what l preach.
00:10:48	l preach the gospel
00:10:52	l mean that's what
00:10:54	- That's my product.
00:10:55	The other guys are
00:10:58	l'm on the corner
00:11:00	So, Dr. Collins,
00:11:02	you are a brilliant
00:11:04	the head
00:11:07	Now here's what's
00:11:10	the one scientist--
00:11:12	the one famous scientist anyway--
00:11:14	who's also religious.
00:11:17	l would argue that
00:11:19	the historical evidence
00:11:23	What evidence?
00:11:24	l mean, l've never even heard
00:11:28	There's been proof
00:11:30	- That's been proven.
00:11:32	How you figure that one?
00:11:35	When l read the New Testament,
00:11:36	it reads to me
00:11:39	who put down what they saw.
00:11:41	You know
00:11:43	- They were close to that.
00:11:45	Within a couple
00:11:48	- Okay.
00:11:51	as absolute foolproof evidence
00:11:54	that something happened?
00:11:56	You are setting up
00:11:58	that l think would really be
00:12:01	No gospel tells us what he was
00:12:05	You know,
00:12:07	and then we kind of pick up
00:12:11	l think Jesus was probably
00:12:13	big Jewfro,
00:12:16	Here l am!
00:12:19	The records we have
00:12:21	Gospels are not history.
00:12:24	Gospel writers never met Jesus,
00:12:27	No one who wrote
00:12:29	How can you go back
00:12:31	and the prophets specifically
00:12:33	Well, first of all,
00:12:35	the New Testament came after
00:12:37	l agree to that,
00:12:39	All it means is the people that
00:12:42	read the Old Testament
00:12:45	They can't make it fit
00:12:47	Of course they can.
00:12:48	Then you're saying
00:12:51	- l am.
00:12:52	l am.
00:12:54	We do all know that
00:12:56	Yeah, sure.
00:12:58	l'm surprised that things
00:13:01	like the virgin birth
00:13:04	Wouldn't you really expect
00:13:07	thinking about the way in which
00:13:10	But you'd think if you were
00:13:13	that would be sort
00:13:17	Oh, God,
00:13:20	They don't notice the virgin birth.
00:13:22	You know, l think that is something
00:13:26	you'd put into the story.
00:13:28	What editor looks at the facts and goes,
00:13:32	about the virgin birth.
00:13:36	l think being without faith
00:13:38	is something that's a luxury
00:13:40	for people who were
00:13:42	to have a fortunate life.
00:13:44	You know, you go to prison
00:13:46	and you hear a guy say,
00:13:48	l got nothing but Jesus in here.''
00:13:50	l completely understand that.
00:13:52	l think not having faith
00:13:55	lf you're in a foxhole,
00:13:58	- Mm-hmm.
00:14:00	But you guys aren't dumb.
00:14:03	How can smart people--
00:14:04	how can they believe
00:14:07	people living to 900 years old
00:14:10	And you know,
00:14:12	You guys have
00:14:13	Pray for me.
00:14:15	Father, in the name of Jesus
00:14:18	we ask right now, Lord,
00:14:20	that You can answer his questions
00:14:23	Father, we thank You
00:14:25	that has come today,
00:14:27	that we may voice
00:14:30	So we ask You, Lord, to touch
00:14:31	and feel wisdom right now
00:14:34	And we thank You for it
00:14:36	Thank you for being Christlike,
00:14:40	Okay. Hey, my wallet!
00:14:43	No, l'm kidding.
00:14:46	You see so many nice people
00:14:50	something good
00:14:51	and yet it turns
00:14:54	but, like, fucking-little-kids corrupt
00:14:57	and burning-people-alive cor--
00:15:00	l mean, really evil shit.
00:15:02	l'd like to see 10,000 people
00:15:05	give $10,000.
00:15:07	Write your biggest check
00:15:09	We got people on welfare that's got
00:15:12	- and paying it!
00:15:18	What l'm about
00:15:21	l got it on DVD.
00:15:23	And you need to get this. Hallelujah!
00:15:29	Hallelujah!
00:15:35	Reverend.
00:15:37	No, just call me... doctor.
00:15:39	- Doctor?
00:15:42	All right, Doc. First of all,
00:15:45	you were in Harold Melvin
00:15:47	l was like, ''That's my man.''
00:15:54	And it's funny,
00:15:56	can be interpreted religiously.
00:15:58	''lf you don't know me
00:16:00	l mean, you must've thought of that.
00:16:02	The song did go platinum.
00:16:06	Teddy Pendergrass,
00:16:08	he was ordained a minister
00:16:11	What do you think
00:16:13	and how serious it is
00:16:15	if you can be a minister
00:16:20	But there is a comparison
00:16:24	musical stars, rock stars
00:16:26	and religious figures.
00:16:28	- in elaborate costumes...
00:16:31	...that get people's attention.
00:16:46	People in a congregation
00:16:48	must know that
00:16:50	by their donations,
00:16:53	l always dress well.
00:16:55	l see! Are those gators?
00:16:58	Those are lizards.
00:16:59	- Lizards?
00:17:01	- What do they run?
00:17:06	And l see you got a lot of bling.
00:17:08	l like gold.
00:17:12	That's what pimps say
00:17:14	l was told by one of the greatest pimps
00:17:18	his name is called God--
00:17:21	that if you know what you got,
00:17:22	then you ain't got much.
00:17:24	Jesus dressed very well.
00:17:26	Oh, come on.
00:17:28	- Where is the Biblical evidence?
00:17:30	When he was born,
00:17:33	They brought him gold.
00:17:35	So my image of Jesus as a man
00:17:38	who championed the poor
00:17:40	in simple garb, that's wrong?
00:17:43	lt was linen.
00:17:45	- Really?
00:17:47	But Jesus constantly preaches
00:17:50	The Bible does not speak
00:17:53	- Jesus does. Very plainly.
00:17:56	Jesus was very
00:17:59	He never preached against being poor.
00:18:02	No, he preached
00:18:04	No no no, he said that
00:18:07	than a rich man to enter--
00:18:10	lt is easier for a camel to go
00:18:14	than for a rich man
00:18:16	Okay, but now things
00:18:20	and clothes and money,
00:18:23	they come as a result
00:18:25	of my seeking God first.
00:18:27	l don't remember that
00:18:29	in the New Testament specifically.
00:18:31	But it's there. l remember it.
00:18:33	The houses, the cars
00:18:34	and the clothes, they'll come.
00:18:35	Yeah, money comes,
00:18:39	Well, money happens for you
00:18:42	You're not giving it up to them.
00:18:45	Let me set the record straight.
00:18:46	l do not receive
00:18:48	l do not take a salary
00:18:50	- You take it right out of the pot.
00:18:52	lt's such a powerful position.
00:18:54	l mean, you hold people's
00:18:56	greatest hopes and dreams
00:19:00	Certainly, some of the young women
00:19:06	Probably. l would too
00:19:09	lf l was a woman, l'd probably
00:19:11	That's keepin' it real.
00:19:13	Now l can advise other young men
00:19:17	l had a young man who was
00:19:20	He was about
00:19:22	l said, ''That kind of passion,
00:19:25	l said, ''Turn that to God
00:19:31	St. Paul, for example,
00:19:35	People do.
00:19:37	But he famously
00:19:40	the clothes that he owned.
00:19:42	- Should l assume that this is--
00:19:44	This is your only $2,000 suit?
00:19:48	The gentleman who made
00:19:50	owns a clothing store.
00:19:52	Mr. Kane, you in the house?
00:19:54	The prices that l get
00:19:57	- you know, l'm blessed in that area.
00:20:00	l'm more blessed than
00:20:03	And the owner is a Muslim,
00:20:07	l know, l think it's very interesting
00:20:10	you were a Muslim
00:20:13	you buy them like a Jew.
00:20:17	And action!
00:20:19	That's right-- behind me and above me
00:20:22	Sodom and Gomorrah.
00:20:23	Apparently, it was
00:20:26	How wicked?
00:20:27	Well let's just say that
00:20:30	stayed in Gomorrah.
00:20:36	That is until God got wind of it,
00:20:37	so he sent two angels
00:20:40	Now the angels went to the house
00:20:42	of the one godly man in town-- Lot.
00:20:45	And the townspeople tried
00:20:49	Now Lot,
00:20:51	not wanting his town
00:20:54	as the kind of place
00:20:57	offered up to the mob
00:21:01	And he was
00:21:04	Which brings me
00:21:06	lf l ever had to swear an oath,
00:21:09	why would l want to put my hand
00:21:11	on the King James Bible?
00:21:14	l think l could find more morality
00:21:21	God hates fags.
00:21:23	The Constitution does not
00:21:26	the right to perform sodomy.
00:21:28	- l'm a monk.
00:21:30	Franciscan.
00:21:32	What do you think
00:21:34	Do you think that's--
00:21:37	No, the Bible is not against it.
00:21:38	The Bible's not
00:21:40	lf you are born homosexual,
00:21:43	- You have to be happy.
00:21:46	What the Bible means to say, yeah.
00:21:49	Oh, what the Bible means to say!
00:21:50	Now that's a good book.
00:21:53	lt preaches the rock-solid truth.
00:21:55	You are faggots!
00:21:56	l don't hate them.
00:22:00	- Hey, Bill.
00:22:02	Okay. Okay.
00:22:05	So of course, the reason
00:22:09	l guess we would say, ex-gay.
00:22:11	You used to be gay
00:22:13	and then you married someone
00:22:16	And you have three children,
00:22:21	Okay, and would you say
00:22:25	of 14 years--
00:22:27	Oh, funny. Ha ha. Got that.
00:22:29	l don't classify myself
00:22:33	l'm a heterosexual guy
00:22:35	with some homosexuality.
00:22:39	Okay, so the people
00:22:42	who are wanting to do what you did.
00:22:44	They want to reform their life
00:22:48	But l will be honest with you.
00:22:51	and go right back
00:22:54	- Because they're gay!
00:22:57	Excuse me, but don't you have it,
00:23:01	Meaning?
00:23:03	Meaning homosexuality
00:23:05	is something that occurs in nature.
00:23:08	l was out bird watching,
00:23:11	Why don't you come over
00:23:12	Man is who wrote
00:23:16	Nature made gay people.
00:23:18	Nobody's born gay.
00:23:21	Really? Have you ever met
00:23:23	We can look at creation and say,
00:23:26	A man has a penis.
00:23:28	Let's just be blunt.
00:23:30	There's no scientific
00:23:32	that anyone is--
00:23:35	And you also discovered
00:23:37	Yes.
00:23:38	This is all coming from the Bible
00:23:41	- Right.
00:23:43	- l do.
00:23:46	against homosexuality come
00:23:49	Jesus never said a word
00:23:52	And if it's so important,
00:23:54	We could pick lots of little things
00:23:57	that he didn't
00:23:59	- But this is a big thing.
00:24:02	You know, l'm not sure what
00:24:05	but if it's to basically refute
00:24:09	then l'm not interested
00:24:12	- Well, l--
00:24:15	obviously you don't have
00:24:17	with Jesus Christ that l do.
00:24:19	But what is your explanation
00:24:23	around the world who are
00:24:24	- leading homosexual lives...
00:24:27	...have no interest in anyone
00:24:31	Are they all faking
00:24:33	They didn't choose this.
00:24:36	Right, they were born gay.
00:24:37	No, they weren't born that way.
00:24:39	lt's because of the insecurity
00:24:42	lt takes a lot of security to walk out
00:24:46	- They're not happy, most of them.
00:24:49	They took the word.
00:24:51	Some of them look positively thrilled.
00:24:59	No, they are people who
00:25:01	in who they are
00:25:03	That's a pretty big judgment
00:25:06	- lt's not a judgment.
00:25:08	That you are sitting here
00:25:10	who you don't even know
00:25:13	because they're not like you?
00:25:14	l mean, it's not the people you suspect
00:25:17	that are gay, that are gay.
00:25:19	People like
00:25:21	Moral purity is better than immorality.
00:25:24	...who kept meeting
00:25:27	and having gay sex with speed.
00:25:31	Evangelicals have the best
00:25:35	- Good Morning, Duane!
00:25:38	l already answered that.
00:25:39	l don't believe that
00:25:42	l don't know,
00:25:44	in a bar or something, l would say--
00:25:48	l would say, ''Yeah,
00:25:50	You're good looking.
00:25:54	- You don't look like me.
00:25:56	Meaning...
00:26:21	- All right, thank you.
00:26:23	- Yes!
00:26:24	so can l give you a hug?
00:26:27	- Thanks.
00:26:29	Hey, you didn't have
00:26:31	Nope, sorry. Can't do that.
00:26:36	That was good, though.
00:26:38	When l was 17,
00:26:42	and l was sad in a way
00:26:45	You know,
00:26:48	And at that point,
00:26:50	to any sort of connection
00:26:53	with, you know--
00:26:55	l didn't get like Jesus-religious,
00:26:58	but l did think a force out there
00:27:00	was communicating to me
00:27:03	numerology l was
00:27:07	You said you were groping
00:27:11	You know, you make up
00:27:13	is sympathetic to you
00:27:16	lt's much more important.
00:27:19	He just had
00:27:21	You know, He's like an agent.
00:27:23	So you are an ex-Jew for Jesus.
00:27:25	That is correct.
00:27:27	Now what made you to decide
00:27:31	What brought Christ
00:27:33	Back in '75,
00:27:36	l went to Michigan
00:27:38	- $2,700?
00:27:42	Boy, l wonder what Madonna
00:27:45	So getting back to my story,
00:27:47	to do things in the name
00:27:50	So l can't even recall
00:27:54	but He proved to me that
00:27:57	They were so miraculous
00:28:00	There were so many of them
00:28:01	- Give me an example.
00:28:04	l was at a party.
00:28:06	There was a guy who was working
00:28:08	and l asked him,
00:28:12	And he says,
00:28:15	stick your hand out the window
00:28:18	l didn't like the attitude.
00:28:19	l said okay,
00:28:21	and l stuck my hand out the window
00:28:24	Pouring so bad that people
00:28:28	To me, that's a miracle.
00:28:30	- but l know between me and God--
00:28:33	- But you asked.
00:28:36	- that's my reaction to your answer.
00:28:39	l live a life of miracles.
00:28:41	No, you live your life with the same
00:28:45	that happen to everybody
00:28:47	lt's not like,
00:28:51	l would say you had a point.
00:28:52	But it rains, and it stops raining.
00:28:54	Well, when was the last time
00:28:57	and it starting raining
00:28:58	l don't know.
00:29:00	But if l asked for it really bad
00:29:02	l wouldn't think it was
00:29:04	l would think
00:29:06	God is not that busy
00:29:09	where He can't spend time
00:29:11	when you really want
00:29:13	lf Santa Claus can hit
00:29:16	- in one night--
00:29:18	Of course not, that's ridiculous.
00:29:21	all around the world and dropping
00:29:23	That's ridiculous.
00:29:26	to him at the same time, that l get.
00:29:30	And you know what else
00:29:33	l remember vividly
00:29:35	was Santa Claus
00:29:38	- and Jesus.
00:29:40	- Oh, yes.
00:29:43	When you realized there
00:29:47	And then when l found out
00:29:49	boy, was l pissed.
00:29:52	You spoke before in certitude.
00:29:55	You're 100% sure
00:29:57	you'll go to a better place.
00:29:59	l know l'll be with God.
00:30:02	And that's a better place.
00:30:04	Even if it was in a garbage can,
00:30:06	which l know it won't be,
00:30:08	just the fact that
00:30:11	- lt's a better place.
00:30:13	Then why don't you kill yourself?
00:30:17	Because God still has
00:30:18	Oh, l see.
00:30:20	l'm thinking of Jonah.
00:30:23	When did the part of the story come
00:30:26	lt was a great fish.
00:30:28	lt's one of my favorite
00:30:30	Jonah living inside
00:30:32	And their answer unfailingly is
00:30:36	''The Bible doesn't say whale.
00:30:40	Oh, yeah, big fish,
00:30:42	l'm sorry l was obsessing
00:30:45	Of course you could live
00:30:47	A tuna.
00:30:49	They do it all the time in Japan.
00:30:52	You go for three days.
00:30:55	You come out of that tuna
00:30:58	You smell like pussy,
00:31:00	but you feel fantastic.
00:31:03	This man lived inside
00:31:06	Miraculously, yes.
00:31:09	Steve, Steve, Steve.
00:31:12	You don't believe in miracles.
00:31:13	- That doesn't mean they don't exist.
00:31:16	l'm not 10!
00:31:18	He lived in a fish.
00:31:20	Come on.
00:31:22	Your bar on miracles is pretty low,
00:31:26	Well, whatever.
00:31:28	Two things that are
00:31:30	are Christianity
00:31:34	- and nationalism...
00:31:36	...and yet people always
00:31:39	Jesus would never--
00:31:42	people who are
00:31:43	in one breath you'll hear them
00:31:46	''Well, you gotta take care
00:31:48	l know people overseas have trouble,
00:31:51	that is not a message l can ever see
00:31:55	even when he was
00:32:02	l'm gonna vote Bible.
00:32:03	lt's time for God's people to come
00:32:05	out of the closets,
00:32:08	and change America!
00:32:10	Unless you and l do
00:32:11	he'll go to some other country.
00:32:14	God, forgive America!
00:32:16	l would probably have to say yes,
00:32:20	the United States of America
00:32:23	We have, of course,
00:32:25	The Senate will come to order.
00:32:27	The chaplain will lead
00:32:33	How did this country
00:32:37	l've read a lot of quotes
00:32:39	There are a lot of quotes
00:32:41	we're not a Christian nation.
00:32:55	And Jefferson's
00:32:58	Didn't he write his own Bible
00:33:01	from what he considered
00:33:04	bells and whistles?
00:33:06	He took the Gospels,
00:33:08	took out all of Jesus's miracles
00:33:10	and took out
00:33:12	that claimed divinity,
00:33:15	and put out a new book called
00:33:17	of Jesus of Nazareth.''
00:33:18	We tend to lionize these guys
00:33:21	as the 1 2 Apostles
00:33:25	like they're in the same
00:33:27	When in fact,
00:33:30	that there was a difference
00:33:32	and being American.
00:33:34	- Right.
00:33:36	to church less often.
00:33:39	Do you think that there
00:33:41	who feel the way you do,
00:33:44	Absolutely. Are you kidding?
00:33:46	Yes, l think it is
00:33:50	in this country.
00:33:51	ln the last survey,
00:33:53	l think it was 16% of Americans
00:33:57	who now say they are
00:34:00	with any religion,
00:34:02	just don't go near me
00:34:04	16% of the population is
00:34:07	a huge minority.
00:34:10	blacks, homosexuals,
00:34:14	lots of people you could name
00:34:17	that get everything they want
00:34:19	or are at least are in the debate.
00:34:23	You want me to kinda angle
00:34:25	Just as natural as possible to Bill.
00:34:27	So you've described yourself
00:34:31	You did a campaign ad where you said
00:34:34	are in this book right here,
00:34:37	Everyone in politics likes
00:34:41	Why is faith good?
00:34:44	Faith has a way
00:34:46	of softening people.
00:34:48	For example, if you look at the
00:34:51	He also said,
00:34:53	he is cast forth
00:34:56	and the branches are gathered,
00:35:00	Right. So?
00:35:03	l do think, 'cause l'm a Christian,
00:35:05	that Jesus is the way
00:35:08	And l do believe
00:35:13	We'll let God sort out all the details
00:35:17	What about
00:35:19	So many politicians talk
00:35:22	Are they really the 10 most
00:35:24	- important moral--
00:35:27	The 10 recommendations?
00:35:29	But it's not really a wide list of 10.
00:35:32	The first four are all
00:35:34	about just worshipping God
00:35:37	and he doesn't want you
00:35:39	The only two that are really laws
00:35:41	are don't steal and don't kill.
00:35:44	Why is this the wisest group of 10?
00:35:46	lt doesn't include child abuse.
00:35:50	lt doesn't include
00:35:52	that l think if we were
00:35:54	we would probably include.
00:35:56	Society is so different today
00:35:59	and our culture is
00:36:01	That's what l'm asking.
00:36:04	Can you think of anything else that
00:36:07	Well...
00:36:28	Basically, murder is against the law
00:36:31	But wouldn't we have come
00:36:34	Don't you think people would
00:36:37	''You know what?
00:36:39	- and not take each other's stuff.''
00:36:43	There's been more killing
00:36:46	You think maybe sort of indigously
00:36:49	or just by our DNA,
00:36:51	we somehow know that killing
00:36:54	l'm not sure that that's the case.
00:36:57	Really, you need God
00:36:59	Well, you can look back
00:37:03	and they were constantly at war.
00:37:11	We are now, among industrialized,
00:37:14	the most religious nation.
00:37:17	A recent study found that
00:37:19	among 32 countries,
00:37:21	more people in this country
00:37:23	than any other country on that list,
00:37:27	ln the US,
00:37:30	l think most of the countries on
00:37:32	Well, that's interesting.
00:37:34	Do you believe in evolution?
00:37:35	You know my-- l don't know.
00:37:38	Clearly the scientific community's
00:37:41	on some of the specifics
00:37:44	- l don't think they are.
00:37:47	l think they pretty much agree.
00:37:49	l don't know how it all happened.
00:37:51	l'm certainly willing to accept
00:37:54	lt couldn't possibly
00:37:57	5,000 years ago with a talking snake
00:38:00	Well, it could've
00:38:02	Come on.
00:38:04	l mean, you're a senator.
00:38:07	You are one
00:38:09	who are really
00:38:11	lt worries me that people are
00:38:15	who believe
00:38:16	You don't have to pass an lQ test
00:38:29	As you first come
00:38:32	there's going to be a sense
00:38:33	of ''This is something really big.''
00:38:35	This is something awe-inspiring,
00:38:38	We can answer the questions
00:38:41	that attack
00:38:42	We admit that we start
00:38:45	to teach them how to think.
00:38:47	Really, in a nutshell,
00:38:49	from Genesis to Revelation.
00:38:56	We're building the whole place
00:39:01	l have many people say to me,
00:39:02	''As a Christian,
00:39:04	l say, ''Well, you got a problem.
00:39:07	lf you believe in evolution, the woman
00:39:10	All right,
00:39:15	This is what we call the main hall
00:39:19	dinosaurs and people together,
00:39:21	to the idea of the evolutionists
00:39:25	70 million ago or so,
00:39:28	They see an animatronic
00:39:31	Two animatronic baby T-Rexes
00:39:34	lt's basically just to give people
00:39:41	How to share your faith
00:39:45	to be able to reason
00:39:47	learn to circumnavigate
00:39:48	or go around
00:39:50	There's plenty of people who
00:39:54	But that's not good enough
00:39:57	We can basically
00:39:59	with what's in Genesis.''
00:40:02	We're an organization that--
00:40:05	is telling people that
00:40:08	its history beginning
00:40:09	Scientists line up
00:40:12	on one side of this issue.
00:40:15	an enormous conspiracy
00:40:18	of all different disciplines
00:40:21	to have such a consensus.
00:40:24	That doesn't move you?
00:40:25	No, not at all, because from
00:40:28	l understand why the majority
00:40:31	Man is a sinner.
00:40:34	All these scientists
00:40:37	Well...
00:40:39	We have been talking
00:40:42	and many of them believe
00:40:45	lf you're a scientist,
00:40:47	Now you recently were the director
00:40:51	A Vatican astronomer.
00:40:53	lt's one of those terms
00:40:56	you know,
00:40:58	- l'm not getting into that.
00:41:01	lt's not that the church
00:41:04	they're gonna train us up
00:41:07	to baptize those extraterrestrials
00:41:09	before the Mormons get at 'em.
00:41:11	The reason is simply
00:41:14	historical facts.
00:41:16	John Paul ll,
00:41:20	in the neo-Darwinian sense is
00:41:24	l mean, he said that.
00:41:26	l still don't understand
00:41:29	for there to have to have been
00:41:31	where a man co-existed
00:41:34	Only really
00:41:35	ls someone talking about me?
00:41:37	...and that Raquel Welch movie
00:41:39	does man ever co-exist
00:41:43	Why is that important
00:41:46	lf you're saying
00:41:48	it says God made land animals
00:41:51	then ultimately, why should
00:41:54	The Christian Scriptures
00:41:58	between about 2,000 years
00:42:01	to about 200 years after Christ.
00:42:03	That's it.
00:42:04	Modern science came
00:42:08	up through Newton,
00:42:10	What we know
00:42:13	is in that period.
00:42:15	How in the world could
00:42:18	in scripture?
00:42:20	There cannot be.
00:42:22	Just the two historical
00:42:24	by so much.
00:42:26	The Scriptures are not
00:42:28	teaching science.
00:42:30	lt's very hard for me to accept,
00:42:32	not just a literal interpretation
00:42:36	but a fundamentalist approach
00:42:39	lt's kind of a plague.
00:42:40	lt presents itself
00:42:43	God is an infinite God
00:42:46	- we don't always understand.
00:42:48	He is God.
00:42:51	Are you God?
00:42:54	No.
00:42:59	We went to church every Sunday.
00:43:01	My sister and l went to Catechism,
00:43:05	like Hebrew school for papists.
00:43:08	lt was like war.
00:43:10	lt was vast stretches
00:43:13	by moments of sheer terror.
00:43:21	l'm in the Vatican.
00:43:29	Buongiorno!
00:43:31	l know what you're thinking.
00:43:34	at a studio
00:43:36	and they digitalized
00:43:38	No no, that's really the Vatican.
00:43:41	l ought to know.
00:43:43	See, l wanted
00:43:45	but l was willing to settle
00:43:49	or the Flying Nun--
00:43:51	but apparently l've been on the
00:43:54	But that's their loss, 'cause now
00:43:58	which is mainly:
00:44:00	Does that look anything
00:44:01	like anything Jesus Christ
00:44:04	When you look at a building
00:44:07	does it seem at odds
00:44:10	Well, certainly.
00:44:11	- Well, thank you.
00:44:15	lt really is obvious, isn't it?
00:44:18	Well, l mean--
00:44:22	l wouldn't--
00:44:24	l wouldn't be living there.
00:44:26	l mean Jesus would be
00:44:29	in a suburb of Rome, got it?
00:44:32	Do you ever get so fed up
00:44:35	- Well, l don't wear a collar anyway.
00:44:37	Take my badge and my collar.''
00:44:39	l read about 10 books recently--
00:44:43	and everyone's saying it's stupid.
00:44:47	You know what's
00:44:49	- No, what's gonna happen?
00:44:50	Come on, roasting.
00:44:53	That's what they taught me.
00:44:54	Yeah, l know, that hell business.
00:44:56	Well, come on, the standard doctrine
00:44:59	Yeah, that's all gone.
00:45:01	But that's not fair.
00:45:03	- Yeah, pfft!
00:45:06	really wasn't established
00:45:09	Oh, yeah...
00:45:11	because he might've
00:45:14	These are all
00:45:17	- And that doesn't bother you, either?
00:45:19	l mean, when everybody's,
00:45:22	because Jesus was born
00:45:25	this is all nonsense.
00:45:27	- You're a maverick, aren't you?
00:45:29	You're Father Maverick.
00:45:38	When you add up
00:45:41	and archangels
00:45:43	there's God, the Father,
00:45:46	Mother Mary--
00:45:49	it's not quite
00:45:52	Oh, l understand.
00:45:54	Yeah, well, it does seem like that,
00:45:58	Well, yeah, but some people
00:46:00	You probably are--
00:46:03	but they had a survey here
00:46:05	and they said, ''ln a crisis,
00:46:07	what kind of saints
00:46:10	You know who's the sixth
00:46:13	The sixth?
00:46:15	He's the sixth man
00:46:18	when they have problems.
00:46:21	- That's very interesting.
00:46:25	So how do you convince people
00:46:27	You don't, forget it.
00:46:30	with their stupid ideas.
00:46:33	l'm sorry.
00:46:35	You can go to a pitch meeting
00:46:37	''Okay, there's a spaceman
00:46:40	who zaps a virgin
00:46:42	and he gives birth
00:46:45	who then goes
00:46:46	l wonder what people
00:46:48	Yeah, that is actually
00:46:50	lt has so many elements
00:46:52	because they love
00:46:54	They love violence,
00:46:57	it's never seen before-- a virgin.
00:47:17	Hey, Shalom.
00:47:24	We're so glad to have you here.
00:47:34	These are here to teach God's word.
00:47:36	We're in a spiritual warfare.
00:47:38	We don't push our beliefs on people,
00:47:40	but we do make them available.
00:47:42	- Have you ever had a Muslim person?
00:47:45	People from Gaza Strip come.
00:47:50	We get many people
00:47:52	''We've come every year
00:47:54	and we've done the tourist
00:47:57	We wish we had
00:48:01	because their experience
00:48:04	Do you think if--
00:48:07	they transposed the Bible stories
00:48:10	with the fairy tales, you'd know
00:48:14	- My name is Eve.
00:48:17	This place is amazing.
00:48:19	lf they told you Jack
00:48:21	and that a man who lived
00:48:26	you think when you got
00:48:28	you'd be defending
00:48:30	So you're saying that
00:48:32	God took my rib like this
00:48:35	and began to whittle it
00:48:37	like this
00:48:39	and blow on it...
00:48:43	Saved means believing
00:48:45	- as the only begotten Son of God.
00:48:47	What about the Muslims?
00:48:49	Many Muslims are
00:48:51	l don't get it.
00:48:53	l pray in your lifetime you do.
00:48:55	Jesus came through a Jew.
00:48:59	He came through
00:49:01	but no man had
00:49:03	No flesh had ever
00:49:05	He was the seed of God.
00:49:26	You want me to lean up against
00:49:28	or you want casual or-- okay.
00:49:31	Did l give you my cell phone?
00:49:32	Oh, l left my cell phone, right?
00:49:35	Testing one two,
00:49:37	How you doing, Bill?
00:49:39	- Hi.
00:49:41	- Welcome to our world.
00:49:43	Now is this your tomb?
00:49:46	No, it's just cement.
00:49:49	So when you go out to dinner,
00:49:52	All the time, yeah.
00:49:53	l think you get
00:49:56	But they don't think l'm the Lord.
00:49:59	Why do you think people come here?
00:50:02	l personally haven't been
00:50:04	so this was an awesome experience
00:50:06	- l was like, ''Wow, this is cool.''
00:50:09	- about your business...
00:50:11	...or really the Jesus business.
00:50:14	- He can do anything.
00:50:16	Why doesn't
00:50:19	and therefore get rid
00:50:23	- He will.
00:50:25	- End times.
00:50:27	- Why make it a game?
00:50:30	A day is like a thousand years
00:50:33	lf you wanna look at it--
00:50:35	But l know that he is
00:50:39	that he can work
00:50:41	What was the Holocaust?
00:50:44	You know, God had a plan for that.
00:50:46	l wonder if you would have thought
00:50:48	- being pushed into an oven.
00:50:50	lt's like trying to explain
00:50:52	That's-- God's ways are
00:50:55	There's no way
00:50:58	We need to stop the interview
00:51:00	- Nice to see you.
00:51:01	- Hi, Les, l'll be right with you.
00:51:13	l'm not afraid
00:51:15	When he came, he said, ''l come not
00:51:18	You boil all those
00:51:20	No other God is before me, Bill,
00:51:22	and love the Lord with all your heart.
00:51:24	But, Jesus, having
00:51:26	that's not moral.
00:51:28	lt's just something
00:51:31	lt does say that our God
00:51:33	But your God is jealous?
00:51:37	that God would have such
00:51:39	l know people who have
00:51:42	- let alone God.
00:51:44	He's a just God
00:51:46	No, he spends the first five books
00:51:50	That's what he chose to do.
00:51:54	- Maybe our thinking should be higher.
00:51:56	God has got
00:51:59	You can fit that
00:52:01	drugs, sex, whatever you want--
00:52:04	- Can l try?
00:52:05	You're gonna end up
00:52:07	damaging yourself
00:52:08	l thought Christ was
00:52:11	- That's true.
00:52:13	You don't know me and you're telling me
00:52:16	- with drugs and sex.
00:52:18	l'm saying anyone in general.
00:52:19	See, if l was God, l would create people
00:52:22	Have you ever had a little voice in
00:52:26	- We've all had that.
00:52:28	- That's not God. That's you.
00:52:30	- Feel this wind right now?
00:52:32	Okay, where is it?
00:52:34	- Yeah, it's called wind.
00:52:37	lt's a monotheistic religion,
00:52:40	Just like water can be ice,
00:52:42	l see.
00:52:44	lt's different forms, different shapes
00:52:46	The analogy that Jesus
00:52:48	said yesterday was brilliant,
00:52:50	about the Trinity is like water.
00:52:53	lt can be steam. lt can be ice.
00:52:55	lt can be liquid.
00:52:58	boy, that stopped me
00:53:01	That's just a brilliant analogy.
00:53:03	When you think about it
00:53:04	it's still complete bullshit.
00:53:07	There this space God
00:53:09	and he sent himself
00:53:11	He's a God, but he has a kid.
00:53:14	lt's just silly, but when you put it
00:53:18	l can see that, you know,
00:53:21	when they heard that the first time,
00:53:23	Sold. Oh, you had me
00:53:27	Moving on.
00:53:29	that the story of a man
00:53:33	who was born of a virgin
00:53:36	Your bio was something that was
00:53:39	for at least 1,000 years.
00:53:41	We've got Krishna who was in lndia
00:53:44	1,000 years before Christ.
00:53:47	born of a virgin, baptized in a river.
00:53:49	Are you saying that
00:53:51	That was written down in history,
00:53:53	Absolutely, there's the Persian god
00:53:57	Born December 25th,
00:53:59	resurrected on the third day,
00:54:01	known as the Lamb, the Way, the Truth,
00:54:05	Stop! Blasphemer!
00:54:07	All l know is that
00:54:09	l go by the word of God.
00:54:13	- Well, l believe it because it's truth.
00:54:15	But there's a difference
00:54:18	ln the Bible it tells us that all things
00:54:21	Study the religions
00:54:24	for a thousand years before.
00:54:25	Many of the gods were born
00:54:29	- No, it's not.
00:54:32	lt's funny you should bring
00:54:34	in ''Star Wars: Episode l--
00:54:36	Anakin is born to a virgin.
00:54:37	People see that
00:54:39	Where have we heard that before?''
00:54:41	- But the Jesus story wasn't original.
00:55:34	Let me ask you a question.
00:55:37	- that this is all made up...
00:55:40	...what if you're wrong?
00:55:43	What if you're wrong?
00:55:55	# Down the Via Dolorosa #
00:55:59	# ln Jerusalem that day #
00:56:03	# The soldiers tried #
00:56:05	# To clear
00:56:10	# But the crowd
00:56:14	# The man condemned to die #
00:56:16	# On Calvary #
00:56:21	# Down the Via Dolorosa #
00:56:24	# Called the Way of Suffering #
00:56:28	# Like a lamb came the Messiah #
00:56:31	# Christ the King #
00:56:35	# And he chose to walk that road #
00:56:38	# Out of his love #
00:56:41	# For you #
00:56:43	# And me. #
00:57:07	Was Jesus a sinner?
00:57:09	One master. One word.
00:57:15	Who do we put away
00:57:26	Xenu brought us here
00:57:28	75 million years ago,
00:57:30	stacked us around volcanoes
00:57:33	and blew them up with an H-bomb.
00:57:39	We are older than the universe.
00:57:44	You have to rid yourself
00:57:47	of the implants
00:57:48	from the extraterrestrial dictators!
00:57:55	- Get an E-Meter. Yes, get an E-Meter!
00:58:02	Audit yourself.
00:58:07	How do you people expect
00:58:13	l'm not making the rules.
00:58:17	Aw...
00:58:21	You know, Scientologists...
00:58:26	And right, you're like,
00:58:30	Jesus with the virgin birth
00:58:33	who talked in the garden,
00:58:37	But the Scientologists,
00:58:40	That's not true.
00:58:41	That-- that--
00:58:43	of what
00:58:46	But it has something to do
00:58:48	that we're born with a defect,
00:58:50	so that the souls of ours
00:58:52	are infected with aliens...
00:58:54	Thank you.
00:58:57	...because the cure?
00:59:01	They're all crazy.
00:59:04	They have to to keep up.
00:59:07	They keep raising the bar.
00:59:09	you know,
00:59:28	We're not getting the top?
00:59:30	- We got the top.
00:59:32	That's the Mormon Temple
00:59:34	To be a Mormon is to believe
00:59:37	crazy even by the standards
00:59:40	When you're the new kid
00:59:43	Thank you.
00:59:46	You're the new kid
00:59:48	and all the good crazy has
00:59:50	so you kind of have to up the ante.
00:59:52	Oh.
00:59:54	God damn it.
00:59:56	Not while
01:00:00	Well, we do have it.
01:00:03	Boy, a lot of people came
01:00:04	- out of the woodwork.
01:00:11	So did you guys get anybody
01:00:13	Well, if you count getting
01:00:16	- ''talked to.''
01:00:19	We'd like you
01:00:23	ln the founding scripture,
01:00:25	you read the autobiography
01:00:27	He quotes Jesus Christ as telling him
01:00:31	that every other creed
01:00:33	''an abomination.''
01:00:35	l mean, that's not
01:00:37	You're talking about things that,
01:00:41	you sense just
01:00:43	l'm glad you said that because l read
01:00:46	like ''God lives on a planet
01:00:50	- Kolob.
01:00:51	God the Father who's a physical man
01:00:54	is probably about 6' tall,
01:00:58	had sexual relations with Mary--
01:01:01	''Jesus Christ was conceived
01:01:04	having actual sex with Mary.''
01:01:06	Mary said, ''lf this is what God wants,
01:01:08	l'll be glad to do His will.''
01:01:10	''Dark skin is a curse from God,
01:01:12	but if you're sufficiently righteous,
01:01:14	a dark-skinned person
01:01:15	can become light-skinned.''
01:01:17	According to
01:01:20	after his resurrection,
01:01:22	to preach to the lndians.
01:01:24	''That American lndians are
01:01:27	They're lost Jews.
01:01:31	And also the idea
01:01:32	that Christianity
01:01:35	l think, is an amazing
01:01:37	who are always trying
01:01:41	The Garden of Eden was
01:01:45	The new Jerusalem
01:01:46	Branson, l'm hoping.
01:01:48	l've also heard that the Mormon Church
01:01:51	You can be baptized
01:01:54	100 people that've died.
01:01:56	And so you just get dunked
01:01:58	That's baptism for the dead.
01:02:00	Caffeine is evil.
01:02:11	And that you need
01:02:14	Everyone must stand
01:02:16	before Joseph Smith,
01:02:19	This isn't an easy religion.
01:02:21	Why do you think it is that
01:02:24	do what you have done
01:02:26	The moment you acknowledge
01:02:28	did not tell the truth about
01:02:32	you just committed
01:02:35	- Family and friends...
01:02:37	...will-- you're off the deep end.
01:02:39	Dr. Andrew Newberg,
01:02:43	l've finally met someone
01:02:47	This is getting very close
01:02:49	which is that religion is
01:02:53	What does the brain look like
01:02:55	We see a lot of different colors,
01:02:58	tell us what
01:02:59	and what we have found is that
01:03:02	when people are actually
01:03:05	or even speaking in tongues,
01:03:07	ln the name of Jesus,
01:03:10	you've been made whole
01:03:13	- Speaking in tongues?
01:03:15	They're just babbling,
01:03:20	They're not really speaking
01:03:22	lt's not an actual language,
01:03:25	Just bullshit, Doc,
01:03:27	lsn't that something?
01:03:42	l love you.
01:03:44	So you would agree that
01:03:47	believe something,
01:03:50	- Absolutely.
01:03:52	excuse me, Jewish friends--
01:03:55	especially the really Orthodox ones.
01:03:57	You are one of the
01:04:01	who does not believe
01:04:03	You do not think the state
01:04:04	- of lsrael should exist.
01:04:08	- Okay.
01:04:10	On Mount Sinai where we made
01:04:14	He said, ''l'm giving you the land,
01:04:16	very clearly stipulating-- you must
01:04:20	You will see it clearly
01:04:22	So basically you're saying that
01:04:24	the Jewish people have
01:04:26	to deserve
01:04:28	God understands what is good for us,
01:04:30	- First of all--
01:04:32	Let me just finish.
01:04:33	God told us, though,
01:04:35	- God manipulates the world--
01:04:38	Wait a second.
01:04:40	God said if you're going
01:04:42	you will be unsuccessful.
01:04:44	You are looking through--
01:04:45	you're trying to look
01:04:48	l'm looking through the key--
01:04:50	Let me finish.
01:04:53	Everything is directly
01:04:55	- But it seems to me--
01:04:58	The concept of saying
01:05:00	that we've suffered
01:05:03	Never again.
01:05:04	So you don't say ''Never again.''
01:05:07	Yeah. Let us understand
01:05:10	were living in exile
01:05:12	under God's protection
01:05:14	and we were living
01:05:16	- Germany, Poland. Not anymore...
01:05:18	We were living amongst
01:05:20	...'cause they're all dead.
01:05:22	You're jumping.
01:05:26	l thought the issue
01:05:28	l thought the issue was
01:05:31	So let's talk
01:05:33	Okay, l'm sure there was a few--
01:05:35	A couple million Jews died,
01:05:38	You're the one who went
01:05:42	for the president
01:05:44	of that country's
01:05:47	Whoa, don't just throw words.
01:06:00	Why does Ahmadinejad say
01:06:03	- to be wiped from the face of the--
01:06:05	- He did.
01:06:07	What did he say?
01:06:08	- He said it should disappear.
01:06:13	- That's chutzpah.
01:06:16	Wait. One more second.
01:06:18	No, l'm out.
01:06:22	We have Conservatives.
01:06:24	We have the Orthodox.
01:06:25	You are an observing Jew.
01:06:28	lt says it right there
01:06:30	Honor the Sabbath day
01:06:32	Friday night to Saturday night,
01:06:35	Yeah, the rabbis over the centuries
01:06:39	as a way to try
01:06:42	You can't use electricity.
01:06:46	Let's talk a little about
01:06:49	l've always wondered
01:06:52	because God rested
01:06:55	and that's why man has to.
01:06:57	That's right,
01:06:59	of the seventh day,
01:07:01	There are 39 types of specific actions
01:07:04	that cannot be done on the Sabbath.
01:07:07	One of them is lighting a fire.
01:07:09	Planting. Another one is plowing.
01:07:10	Another one is
01:07:12	One is building, and one is
01:07:15	So much more kosher is
01:07:18	- that figure out a way around it.
01:07:21	lt does seem that you are,
01:07:23	trying to outsmart God.
01:07:26	lf the lawmaker never
01:07:29	and still there's a loophole there,
01:07:33	To be used in a situation of need.
01:07:35	But how did this get updated
01:07:38	for a 4,000-year-old rule?
01:07:39	lt seems there's an awful lot
01:07:41	that has to do with electricity.
01:07:43	Rabbi Halperin's work here
01:07:45	into something more modern.
01:07:50	Let's look at some
01:07:52	l'm particularly interested in
01:07:55	lt's not a cell phone.
01:07:57	Okay, wow.
01:07:59	l have to say,
01:08:03	Each number is trying
01:08:08	Hello. Hello.
01:08:11	When l take the stick
01:08:13	- and l put it into the hole...
01:08:16	...l'm inhibiting that
01:08:18	the number from dialing itself.
01:08:21	Let me ask about this.
01:08:24	- May l?
01:08:28	Oh, wow.
01:08:31	And this is not the new model,
01:08:33	- This is the experimental prototype.
01:08:35	Schmuck!
01:08:38	- This runs on air pressure, right?
01:08:41	Basically, we've got
01:08:44	of pressure here.
01:08:46	We've got the turning it on,
01:08:48	So air is okay.
01:08:50	- Air good. Fire bad.
01:08:53	Fire bad!
01:08:56	We've taken an old bicycle--
01:09:00	- l forgot what it's called.
01:09:02	Okay. Air goes in,
01:09:06	lf l was a person
01:09:07	l might say to myself,
01:09:10	to please God, who's taken away
01:09:14	Okay.
01:09:17	That would be fascinating.
01:09:20	Oh, it's a Shabbatavator.
01:09:22	Let me guess,
01:09:24	- Correct.
01:09:26	The issues behind the scenes that
01:09:30	An even bigger problem might
01:09:32	to put this in their building if
01:09:36	Well, actually, that really
01:09:39	Hmm.
01:09:40	How we define what is
01:09:42	about religions is ultimately up
01:09:47	lf you define mental illness
01:09:50	talking to them, then anyone who has
01:10:11	She talks about a prophecy
01:10:13	that these children needed to die.
01:10:18	The dispatcher asked
01:10:21	''l was told to.''
01:10:27	There is nothing
01:10:29	He may not ask of thee?
01:10:33	But in layman's terms,
01:10:35	Moses-- ''Stay here,
01:10:37	and getting the 10 Commandments
01:10:40	You know, 'cause one
01:10:42	We didn't have brain-scan technology
01:10:44	l know, but if a guy says he went
01:10:47	and He talked to him
01:10:49	that guy's a cuckoo.
01:11:09	All those pastors who refer to me
01:11:12	as the anti-Christ, false prophet,
01:11:15	it's because they're miserable.
01:11:17	Anyone who doesn't believe
01:11:27	- My mike is on?
01:11:29	Okay, who are you Biblically?
01:11:32	l am Jesus Christ man,
01:11:36	The Old Testament speaks
01:11:39	and the New Testament also.
01:11:41	- About you personally?
01:11:43	Not just because you have--
01:11:46	- No, not because of that.
01:11:49	Maybe you're Carmen Miranda.
01:11:51	Maybe the second coming of her?
01:11:53	You should have fruit on your head,
01:11:58	Okay. Fuck you.
01:12:00	Why do you think
01:12:04	Jesus of Nazareth had a wife
01:12:07	so after they killed him,
01:12:10	his seed kept going,
01:12:14	and then from Spain,
01:12:19	The bloodline come
01:12:22	David to Jesus of Nazareth,
01:12:24	Jesus of Nazareth, me.
01:12:27	Okay, l though a second coming
01:12:29	was the reincarnation
01:12:32	of the Christ himself,
01:12:34	not a descendant of.
01:12:36	No, he's a descendant.
01:12:38	Descendant? Oh... but
01:12:42	- No.
01:12:44	- No.
01:12:46	No, there's not
01:12:48	What you teach is that
01:12:52	and so there's not really
01:12:56	- No more sin.
01:13:00	- ''Eat anything you want.''
01:13:01	''You don't lose weight,
01:13:04	That's what l believe, Bill.
01:13:05	Oh, l know you do.
01:13:07	And l have many people
01:13:09	And yet, you have a little--
01:13:11	in your eye when say it.
01:13:13	No, l believe in that.
01:13:17	How do we know? Because lots
01:13:21	How do you get this job
01:13:22	lt's not on Craigslist.
01:13:24	- Yeah.
01:13:27	See, two angels--
01:13:28	Two guys named Angel,
01:13:31	You know what l'm talking about,
01:13:33	you fucking cockroach!
01:13:36	- No.
01:13:38	- Two angels came to me...
01:13:40	...and they told me
01:13:42	''The Lord of Lords
01:13:45	is coming to anoint you
01:13:48	What form did the angels come in?
01:13:51	Little tall and strong.
01:13:53	Whatever they told me,
01:13:54	l don't wanna mess
01:13:57	But l'm just saying,
01:13:58	it seems that if God wanted
01:14:01	to communicate something
01:14:03	He's all powerful--
01:14:05	He would just talk
01:14:08	lt always seems
01:14:12	and tells them,
01:14:15	- l am.
01:14:17	So we just sort of
01:14:19	We just sort of
01:14:21	Right, yeah, it's true.
01:14:27	Abraham. Noah.
01:14:30	Lord, what shall l do?
01:14:32	Moses,
01:14:34	climb the mount alone.
01:14:36	Once again, the Lord had
01:14:39	as he had to Adam, Abraham,
01:14:42	Moses, Paul and others.
01:14:46	l am the first Christian.
01:14:48	And the rest are really
01:14:51	because they're following a Jew.
01:14:53	That's it.
01:14:55	ln fact, they put on the plates--
01:14:57	they say ''My boss is
01:15:00	How ridiculous is that?
01:15:03	- lmagine.
01:15:06	They don't--
01:15:08	you know, people say
01:15:11	And it's a good calling.
01:15:13	People adore you.
01:15:16	they treat you like Christ,
01:15:18	You know, if l discovered
01:15:22	l would do a good job, too,
01:15:24	because l would be
01:15:26	lt's how you do
01:15:29	You know, at the end of the day,
01:15:31	or you're Satan,
01:15:33	and giving it 100%.
01:15:35	l give 100%.
01:15:37	l wasn't born skeptical.
01:15:41	l was still making deals
01:15:44	l remember l quit smoking.
01:15:46	There was some shitty problem
01:15:48	and l made
01:15:50	''Okay, if you make
01:15:52	l will quit smoking,
01:15:55	'cause l'd know l'd be going back
01:15:58	And you know, l gotta say,
01:16:00	l'm kind of glad l had ''God''
01:16:02	in my life.
01:16:04	You are the head
01:16:06	of the First Universal Church
01:16:11	- Yes.
01:16:14	- this substance here.
01:16:16	No? Okay, l got that wrong.
01:16:19	But it's built
01:16:22	l mean, it has no dogma, right?
01:16:24	You're not preaching to anybody.
01:16:26	- you'll save their souls, no rituals.
01:16:28	How does this differ
01:16:30	l mean that
01:16:33	l understand
01:16:35	a feeling of one
01:16:38	Do you feel that
01:16:41	No.
01:16:43	Phew! l thought it was just me.
01:16:45	So why do you think
01:16:49	that's so good
01:16:52	as opposed to ludes, PCP,
01:16:54	or smashing up your mother's diet pills
01:16:59	l don't know.
01:17:05	So l did want
01:17:07	about what's going on in this city.
01:17:10	There's a lot
01:17:13	maybe the Dutch
01:17:15	that they're now
01:17:18	There's a lot of tension
01:17:21	lt's all religious fundamentalists.
01:17:24	They already killed
01:17:26	who was a known
01:17:30	This is the spot
01:17:33	- was assassinated?
01:17:36	He was a Dutch filmmaker.
01:17:39	lt was deeply offensive
01:17:42	Oh, Allah, you say
01:17:46	and maintainers of women
01:17:48	because you have given
01:17:50	l feel at least once a week,
01:17:52	the strength of my husband's fist
01:17:55	on my face.
01:17:57	Lots of people think
01:17:59	goes right up to this point and then
01:18:04	when you're talking
01:18:08	lt goes both ways,
01:18:10	lt goes both ways,
01:18:12	usually do the killing for it
01:18:16	Do you think that says something
01:18:19	l don't want to have
01:18:22	you know, if they don't like
01:18:23	they kill you, because it's not.
01:18:26	lt was a noisy crowd outside
01:18:30	as speakers condemned the cartoons
01:18:34	l wish l could get
01:18:37	but considering how controversial
01:18:47	lnitially, when l did the record,
01:18:49	a lot of people supported it,
01:18:51	but then,
01:18:54	people got really scared.
01:18:56	lt just shows
01:18:58	which refuses
01:19:02	debate things
01:19:05	And l don't except that.
01:19:06	l just put my middle finger up.
01:19:08	One of your big gripes--
01:19:11	you keep saying that--
01:19:14	You said, ''Anyone worried
01:19:16	should get involved in the debate.
01:19:20	- That is a right.''
01:19:22	But is that a right
01:19:26	Of course it is. Why do you think
01:19:28	- Why do you think there's--
01:19:32	The demonstrators set off
01:19:34	bringing much
01:19:36	Their hatred focused
01:19:40	The mullahs pressed home
01:19:43	Salman Rushdie must be killed.
01:19:45	See, Salman Rushdie
01:19:47	insult, and he did it
01:19:50	But should you die
01:19:52	No no, well, l mean,
01:19:54	you know, it's easy
01:19:56	things are kind of
01:19:58	They're more complex than that.
01:20:01	There's emotions and passions
01:20:03	and philosophy involved
01:20:05	- and all that stuff.
01:20:07	it's wrong for someone
01:20:11	- for writing a book.
01:20:14	But apparently, it's more
01:20:15	Well, it is because--
01:20:18	We'll never see
01:20:20	but you want that
01:20:23	No, l think
01:20:25	l'm willing to discuss 'em
01:20:29	When you disagree with me,
01:20:30	- No no.
01:20:32	- and l have the fiction.
01:20:34	But you don't see that
01:20:35	of you asking
01:20:38	and somebody else
01:20:40	No no, 'cause my dissent is
01:20:48	l'm here with Geert Wilders
01:20:50	which of course is
01:20:52	but also to the Dutch Parliament.
01:20:54	You are taking
01:20:57	in the Netherlands.
01:20:59	lslam is, according to me,
01:21:02	The Koran is a violent book
01:21:04	and Mohammed was
01:21:06	Do you think lslam wants
01:21:09	- They don't even make...
01:21:11	...a secret about it.
01:21:13	We are infidels.
01:21:14	l mean, we should either become
01:21:18	This is what they say.
01:21:20	Okay, we're here at Habibi Ana.
01:21:22	- Did l say that right?
01:21:24	You guys, really--
01:21:26	gay Muslim activists,
01:21:28	that is a very rare job description.
01:21:33	How big is
01:21:35	the gay Muslim community
01:21:38	Or is this it?
01:21:41	l mean, l'm guessing,
01:21:45	isn't gay night here.
01:21:47	l hope you guys find
01:21:50	'cause otherwise--
01:21:52	you don't feel afraid?
01:21:53	Here in Holland l'm not,
01:21:55	but when l came from my country,
01:21:57	There was an article of law:
01:21:59	Punish the gay
01:22:01	- Just being gay can get you a year.
01:22:04	Same as Alabama.
01:22:07	What l learned is that
01:22:09	they're not specific
01:22:12	They're not specific against,
01:22:15	the desire
01:22:17	What they are against
01:22:21	like anal sex.
01:22:22	They don't say homosexuality,
01:22:27	They just don't want you doing it
01:22:29	which l guess,
01:22:31	if you put that out
01:22:34	what do you have left?
01:22:39	What do you think
01:22:41	it affects your memory,
01:22:43	especially your
01:22:45	- lt does.
01:22:49	that it affects your memory,
01:22:52	lt does.
01:22:56	- l like my hat.
01:23:00	l think l do.
01:23:02	Yes.
01:23:03	ls there a reason
01:23:05	and l have a white hat?
01:23:07	We have any color you like.
01:23:09	So l bought this.
01:23:12	because l like the color.
01:23:14	There is a lot of tension
01:23:18	ls lslam a threat
01:23:22	lslam is preaching,
01:23:25	above all, peace.
01:23:27	Peace, peace and peace.
01:23:51	The name lslam means peace.
01:23:54	And yet it is involved
01:23:56	Yeah, it's just all politics.
01:23:58	- Nothing to do with religion?
01:24:00	- No?
01:24:01	- lt's political.
01:24:03	Seems to be
01:24:05	that say the infidel
01:24:08	is not the equal
01:24:11	The infidel will die in hell.
01:24:13	Don't feel bad
01:24:16	- No.
01:24:19	Boy, l've got
01:24:21	Yes, you have.
01:24:23	- No no no no no.
01:24:25	- No no no no.
01:24:27	No? No. l'm wrong
01:24:30	The way l perceive things in the Koran
01:24:33	- But you have read it in there?
01:24:36	You've read those passages, and what
01:24:39	No, but l explain those
01:24:42	in which they emerged
01:24:44	That's not how people
01:24:45	People don't read
01:24:47	''Well, that was good for then.''
01:24:50	''This is the word of God.
01:24:52	- No, l don't agree.
01:24:55	l just don't buy it
01:24:57	in this state of denial.
01:25:00	l think they're just
01:25:02	to an outsider.
01:25:04	They will not admit
01:25:07	with their culture
01:25:10	Muslims were imperialists
01:25:12	in the century
01:25:15	They conquered most
01:25:18	in one century.
01:25:19	Yeah, it is possible.
01:25:22	You call it conquer.
01:25:24	l think they were trying
01:25:26	to spread lslam.
01:25:29	Well, they were, but they weren't doing
01:25:33	Excuse me.
01:25:36	Sorry.
01:25:37	Oh, that 21st century's
01:25:43	l'm going to shut it off.
01:25:45	l love it that he's got ''Kashmir''
01:25:53	Okay, l shut it off.
01:25:55	- Sorry, l was--
01:26:00	Politics, okay.
01:26:03	Do you think it's possible
01:26:06	like marijuana
01:26:08	and believe we're having a very
01:26:11	that we're just high?
01:26:14	- lt's-- it's--
01:26:17	Boy, talk about
01:26:19	- that was your whole head.
01:26:23	No. Oh, look,
01:26:26	Uh-oh.
01:26:30	Can we get closer?
01:26:32	That is one hell of a wall.
01:26:51	This is the Dome of the Rock?
01:26:53	This is the Dome of the Rock.
01:27:01	On a horse?
01:27:10	He went to heaven on the horse?
01:27:12	Why is it holy for the Jews?
01:27:38	A rock. The Kaaba?
01:27:40	lsn't that--
01:27:44	Stone, rock, the same thing.
01:27:47	Why is that holy?
01:27:52	Paradise.
01:27:53	Could the rock itself have been
01:28:01	But does it make a difference
01:28:03	what a meteor is?
01:28:06	Yes, right.
01:28:07	Okay.
01:28:09	This is the Mount
01:28:11	A lot of Orthodox Jews want
01:28:14	'cause they believe that
01:28:17	he will raise them from
01:28:19	that golden gate
01:28:22	which is why the Muslims
01:28:26	The better to keep out
01:28:28	and his kosher zombies
01:28:31	Although you'd think that
01:28:34	you'd have the power
01:28:39	l thought l would not be allowed
01:28:41	to walk in a mosque.
01:28:43	l thought only someone of your faith
01:28:45	was allowed to do that.
01:29:01	Why is he angry?
01:29:05	They're angry that
01:29:13	Women in your culture
01:29:16	seem not to be as equal
01:29:18	to the man as they
01:29:23	Yes.
01:29:26	l talked to a Muslim scholar today.
01:29:28	And he said that Mohammed
01:29:41	Mohammed never set his foot
01:29:44	on that Temple Mount,
01:29:47	Never ever.
01:29:50	He was never in the land
01:30:04	l think even
01:30:07	Why can't the people
01:30:10	All three religions
01:30:14	to be holy.
01:30:18	ls it not because it was
01:30:21	- Yes.
01:30:25	and then later by
01:30:27	of the Arabian Desert.
01:30:30	- lt changed hands during the crusades.
01:30:31	We had the Byzantines.
01:30:37	There's more than
01:30:40	that used to be a church,
01:30:42	Because it's a lot easier
01:30:46	and say
01:30:47	than it is to change
01:30:50	l worked a lot
01:30:52	that still had
01:30:55	And in the '90s,
01:30:57	and now
01:31:00	l've come today to the village
01:31:04	to show you something
01:31:08	lt's in the shape
01:31:11	with a sizable erection--
01:31:14	Some people think
01:31:15	that there is a giant actually
01:31:19	Others think it has something
01:31:21	or ancient space visitors
01:31:24	but nobody really knows.
01:31:26	And that's what
01:31:28	is that it doesn't
01:31:31	The locals have been
01:31:34	and they don't
01:31:36	They just do it because
01:31:38	and isn't that
01:31:40	Sometimes you kneel,
01:31:43	and sometimes
01:31:46	and you cut the grass
01:31:49	Do you believe,
01:31:51	that the world will end?
01:31:53	l think we are in the end times.
01:31:56	The world as we know it
01:31:58	And beyond that,
01:32:00	there will be the glorious
01:32:06	lt seems peaceful,
01:32:09	but this is the very spot where
01:32:12	life on earth will end.
01:32:14	The irony of religion
01:32:16	of its power to divert man
01:32:19	to destructive courses,
01:32:21	the world actually
01:32:24	A lot of people
01:32:27	in end times.
01:32:28	There will be this great
01:32:31	- Do you believe that?
01:32:41	But if you believe that the world is
01:32:44	and perhaps any day now,
01:32:46	does it not drain
01:32:48	to improve life on earth
01:33:02	The plain fact is,
01:33:04	for mankind to live.
01:33:07	The hour is getting very late
01:33:10	in having key decisions made
01:33:13	by irrationalists, by those
01:33:16	not by a compass,
01:33:19	of reading the entrails
01:33:22	George Bush prayed
01:33:24	but he didn't learn
01:33:26	l don't know that much
01:33:28	l'll vote for President Bush
01:33:29	Faith means making
01:33:34	lt's nothing to brag about.
01:33:35	And those who preach faith
01:33:38	are our intellectual slaveholders,
01:33:41	keeping mankind in a bondage
01:33:43	to fantasy and nonsense
01:33:45	that has spawned and justified
01:33:47	so much lunacy and destruction.
01:33:50	Religion is dangerous
01:33:53	who don't have all the answers
01:33:55	to think that they do.
01:33:57	Most people would think
01:33:59	''l'm willing, Lord.
01:34:02	Except that since there
01:34:06	that void is filled in by people
01:34:10	- limitations and agendas.
01:34:14	and l'm not saying
01:34:16	The Lord didn't say nuclear--
01:34:17	but l do believe it'll
01:34:19	And anyone who tells you
01:34:21	they just know
01:34:24	l promise you, you don't.
01:34:26	How can l be so sure?
01:34:29	and you do not possess
01:34:33	The only appropriate attitude
01:34:35	about the big questions
01:34:38	is not the arrogant certitude
01:34:40	that is the hallmark of religion,
01:34:42	but doubt. Doubt is humble,
01:34:45	and that's what
01:34:47	considering that human history
01:34:51	of getting shit dead wrong.
01:34:54	Jesus is coming back
01:34:56	because he is
01:34:59	The believer goes in the paradise.
01:35:01	Unbeliever, they will go to hell.
01:35:05	The Jews are the only reason
01:35:08	- l love them.
01:35:10	- to heaven with you, are you?
01:35:13	and l'm gonna come back
01:35:26	So you think Jesus
01:35:29	maybe in your lifetime?
01:35:31	One always hopes.
01:35:33	lf a nuclear bomb went off,
01:35:35	and it seemed like that was
01:35:38	balls of fire or something,
01:35:40	you wouldn't look on that
01:35:42	l know l'll be with God.
01:35:44	This is why rational people,
01:35:46	anti-religionists,
01:35:47	must end their timidity
01:35:49	and assert themselves.
01:35:51	And those who consider themselves
01:35:54	really need to look
01:35:57	that the solace and comfort
01:35:59	actually comes
01:36:02	lt says in the last days
01:36:05	The Bible prophesies
01:36:07	they're going to be fulfilled!
01:36:09	Can this be accomplished
01:36:11	- No.
01:36:15	global jihad.
01:36:16	- Who will win out?
01:36:18	That's for God to decide
01:36:30	lf you belonged to a political
01:36:33	that was tied
01:36:36	homophobia, violence
01:36:38	and sheer ignorance
01:36:40	you'd resign in protest.
01:36:42	To do otherwise is
01:36:45	a Mafia wife,
01:36:46	with the true devils of extremism
01:36:49	that draw their legitimacy
01:36:51	from the billions
01:36:53	lf the world does come
01:36:57	or if it limps into the future,
01:37:00	of a religion-inspired
01:37:03	let's remember
01:37:05	That we learned how
01:37:08	before we got past
01:37:11	of wishing for it.
01:37:14	That's it. Grow up or die.
01:37:20	We are in a conflict
01:40:46	See you in heaven.
01:40:48	Who knows?
01:40:51	Yeah, exactly.

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