Sicko

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00:00:16 (applause and cheering)
00:00:23 We got issue in America.
00:00:25 Too many good docs
00:00:28 Too many ob-gyns aren't able to practice
00:00:42 I don't have a job. I don't want to have
00:00:47 I'm flushing the wound.
00:00:50 (man) This is Adam.
00:01:04 He had an accident.
00:01:18 He's one of nearly 50 million Americans
00:01:36 But this film isn't about Adam.
00:01:43 So this is the table saw.
00:01:47 (man) This is Rick.
00:01:52 I was gripping a piece of wood
00:01:55 (man) He sawed off the tops
00:02:00 ...and it was that quick.
00:02:04 - (man) His first thought?
00:02:07 Am I gonna have to pay cash for this?
00:02:11 Does that mean
00:02:15 (man) Rick also doesn't have
00:02:18 So the hospital gave him a choice.
00:02:20 Reattach the middle finger for $60.000.
00:02:24 Or do the ring finger for 12.000.
00:02:28 It's an awful feeling
00:02:37 (man) Being a hopeless romantic.
00:02:41 For the bargain price of 12 grand.
00:02:44 The top of his middle finger now enjoys
00:02:58 I can do that thing where, you know,
00:03:08 (man) This movie
00:03:12 Yes. There are nearly 50 million Americans
00:03:16 They pray every day
00:03:18 Because 18.000 of them
00:03:22 Simply because they're uninsured.
00:03:26 But this movie isn't about them.
00:03:29 It's about the 250 million of you
00:03:34 Those of you who are living
00:03:48 It's moving day
00:03:57 They've packed everything they own
00:04:03 And are driving to Denver. Colorado.
00:04:08 To their new home...
00:04:10 - Hi.
00:04:13 ... in their daughter's storage room.
00:04:16 This is home, sweet home.
00:04:20 - Look at all that stuff.
00:04:24 - We will.
00:04:26 - It stays.
00:04:29 So this is where Heather talked about
00:04:34 I see what she's talking about.
00:04:38 (man) It wasn't supposed to
00:04:42 They both had good jobs.
00:04:46 She was a newspaper editor.
00:04:49 And he was a union machinist.
00:04:52 They raised six kids who all went to
00:04:59 But Larry had a heart attack.
00:05:01 And then another one.
00:05:04 And then another one.
00:05:08 And then Donna got cancer.
00:05:12 And even though
00:05:14 The copays and deductibles
00:05:18 to the point where they could no longer
00:05:22 If somebody told me ten years ago this was
00:05:27 I would have said, "It's not possible."
00:05:29 "Not in the United States.
00:05:39 - (Larry) Are we gonna quit?
00:05:42 It's just hard.
00:05:45 (man) They were bankrupt.
00:05:48 So they moved in
00:05:51 We'll get it all figured out.
00:05:54 We emptied the dresser
00:05:56 Nice, very nice.
00:06:01 (man) Even their son Danny
00:06:04 to welcome them to Denver.
00:06:06 - What do we do about people like you?
00:06:10 You're supposed to pay a deductible for
00:06:15 What about people like Kathy and I
00:06:18 and move you every five years,
00:06:21 - 'cause you don't have enough money?
00:06:25 I'm sorry. It's not what we wanted
00:06:29 And we're doing what we can
00:06:32 You don't know what that feels like inside
00:06:37 to have to reach out
00:06:40 It's gonna be hard for four, five, six,
00:06:45 I have a feeling of you bring your problems
00:06:51 Yeah.
00:06:54 But I don't know
00:07:01 (man) By sheer coincidence.
00:07:04 Was leaving on a job
00:07:10 Paul was a contractor.
00:07:14 So he found work out of town.
00:07:16 I'm sure you'll keep
00:07:21 Email you.
00:07:27 (Donna) You're gonna be
00:07:34 Weird situation, isn't it?
00:07:40 - (man) Tell me where Daddy's going.
00:07:45 Why is Daddy going to Iraq?
00:07:47 To do some plumbing.
00:07:55 Oh, boy.
00:07:58 This I do early in the morning.
00:08:05 (man) At age 79. Frank Cardile should
00:08:10 But even though
00:08:14 It doesn't cover all the cost of the drugs
00:08:22 (Frank) Being that I'm an employee here,
00:08:26 So that's why I gotta keep working.
00:08:32 There is nothing wrong with that.
00:08:34 OK.
00:08:36 I always gotta keep my ears open
00:08:40 Sometimes you get a gallon of milk.
00:08:42 Tomato sauce - oh, you're in trouble.
00:08:49 And I look up on every aisle
00:08:52 If I see something I pick it up,
00:08:58 One day I had the keys in my hand
00:09:02 And I had to climb in there
00:09:09 It's a sad situation.
00:09:13 If there are golden years,
00:09:20 She had a painkiller for her hip.
00:09:23 The girl said, "Frank, this is $ 213."
00:09:27 - I didn't take it.
00:09:32 What's in them? What's in these
00:09:35 I don't believe you need
00:09:38 I have never taken medication now,
00:09:42 I don't even like to take an aspirin.
00:09:45 I do like a little brandy.
00:09:52 I don't really know how this happened, but
00:09:58 (man) Laura Burnham was in a head-on
00:10:03 Paramedics got her out of the car and into
00:10:08 I get a bill from my insurance company
00:10:11 telling me that the ambulance ride
00:10:15 because it wasn't preapproved.
00:10:17 I don't know exactly when I was supposed
00:10:21 Like after I gain consciousness in the car,
00:10:26 I should have grabbed my cellphone
00:10:31 I mean, it's just crazy.
00:10:38 (woman) I applied for
00:10:40 They rejected him
00:10:44 Jason is six feet tall
00:10:52 I applied for healthcare
00:10:55 and they told me
00:10:59 I'm 5' 1 ",
00:11:06 (man) I always thought health insurance
00:11:11 So I posted a note on the internet.
00:11:13 Asking people if they had had
00:11:16 about problems
00:11:21 Within 24 hours.
00:11:25 And by the end of the week.
00:11:29 had sent me
00:11:34 Some of them decided
00:11:38 Like Doug Noe. Who took matters into
00:11:45 His daughter was nine months old when
00:11:50 His health insurance company.
00:11:52 Said they'd pay for an implant
00:11:56 According to the letter they sent.
00:11:58 It's experimental
00:12:02 If a cochlear implant
00:12:05 it doesn't even make any sense that
00:12:09 Especially when a child
00:12:13 she has to learn
00:12:19 (Moore) That's when he sat down
00:12:21 This is to CIGNA.
00:12:25 is in the process of gathering information
00:12:28 "I've sent information concerning CIGNA's
00:12:33 "Has your CEO ever been
00:12:38 (Moore) Before he knew it. He received
00:12:43 (answerphone) Tuesday. 8.:54 am.
00:13:06 Obviously all this worked because Annette
00:13:11 (woman) "Dear Mike.
00:13:14 (woman #2) "I work for an HMO."
00:13:15 (Moore) I started to get hundreds of letters
00:13:19 from people who work inside
00:13:23 They'd seen everything
00:13:27 (man #2) "Health insurance
00:13:30 (Moore) Like Becky Malke. Who was
00:13:35 from one of America's
00:13:38 (Becky) I work in a call center, so people
00:13:42 There are certain preexisting conditions,
00:13:46 that will not be covered -
00:13:48 diabetes, heart disease,
00:13:52 If you have these conditions, you are likely
00:13:56 (Moore) How long is this list of conditions
00:14:00 It would be a really long list.
00:14:04 It could wrap around this house.
00:14:13 (# "Star Wars" theme plays)
00:14:33 Sometimes you know they're gonna
00:14:37 and they're like...
00:14:42 and they were so happy to get...
00:14:44 They were so happy that they were...
00:14:49 And the husband was late for work.
00:14:53 And the wife said to him,
00:14:57 "We have health insurance now."
00:14:59 And when I looked, I could tell
00:15:02 because of their health conditions.
00:15:05 I thought, "God, they're gonna get
00:15:09 telling them
00:15:13 I just felt so bad
00:15:16 and I knew
00:15:19 I just felt like crap.
00:15:21 That's why I'm such a bitch
00:15:24 because I don't wanna
00:15:27 I don't wanna know about their lives,
00:15:30 and get done with it
00:15:35 (Moore) In spite of Becky being
00:15:39 A quarter billion Americans
00:15:46 Let's meet some of these
00:15:51 Maria has BlueShield.
00:15:53 And Diane. Horizon BlueCross.
00:15:55 BCS insures Laurel.
00:15:58 And Caroline has CIGNA.
00:16:01 And it's a good thing
00:16:04 I ended up being diagnosed
00:16:08 - Brain tumor.
00:16:10 Brain tumor on the right temporal lobe.
00:16:12 (Moore) As they were insured. They got the
00:16:16 She requested for me
00:16:20 The way they would treat it
00:16:23 Surgery was scheduled
00:16:24 There is a test that you can take
00:16:27 that will show whether or not
00:16:32 (Moore) They got their treatment. But not
00:16:36 Investigated whether or not
00:16:40 "It's not medically necessary."
00:16:41 They claim that it's experimental.
00:16:44 "We don't consider that life-threatening."
00:16:46 (Moore) Diane died
00:16:49 Laurel's cancer is now spread
00:16:52 Her "experimental test"
00:16:57 While vacationing in Japan.
00:17:00 and got the MRI that BlueShield
00:17:06 The doctors in Japan
00:17:10 BlueShield had said repeatedly
00:17:13 That's when she said:
00:17:20 (man #3) March 13, 2003.
00:17:23 I'm gonna direct your attention
00:17:26 Please describe for me what it is.
00:17:29 It is a denial for referral
00:17:35 - (man #3) Is it your signature on this?
00:17:39 (man #3) I'd like to direct your attention
00:17:42 This is a denial
00:17:46 for a magnetic resonance imaging test
00:17:50 - (man #3) It has your signature?
00:17:52 (man #3) Directing your attention
00:17:56 This is a denial of a referral
00:18:03 (man #3) Can you explain for me
00:18:09 This is a standard signature
00:18:12 - (man #3) Is it your signature or a stamp?
00:18:15 (man #3) Did you ever see a denial letter
00:18:22 No, but the denial letters
00:18:27 The denial letters that are sent out...
00:18:29 - (man #3) The answer is no.
00:18:33 The definition of a good director was
00:18:38 (Moore) Dr. Linda Peeno
00:18:42 She left her job because she didn't like
00:18:47 (Dr. Peeno) I was told when I started
00:18:51 Then they were giving us reports weekly
00:18:56 the percent approved
00:18:58 And our actual percentage denial rate.
00:19:01 Then there would be another report that
00:19:05 The doctor with the highest percent
00:19:09 (Moore) Really? So you, as a doctor,
00:19:13 if you denied more people healthcare,
00:19:16 (Dr. Peeno) That was how they set it up.
00:19:18 Any payment for a claim
00:19:22 That's the terminology
00:19:25 I mean, when you don't spend money
00:19:29 or you make a decision that brings
00:19:33 it's a savings to the company.
00:19:37 (Moore) This is Tarsha Harris.
00:19:40 BlueCross didn't deny her
00:19:42 And actually approved her operation.
00:19:47 But then they discovered
00:19:51 She had had a yeast infection.
00:19:56 Apparently it's common.
00:20:00 So I was prescribed the yeast infection
00:20:08 She later applied for health insurance
00:20:10 and that's what you're supposed
00:20:14 The yeast infection is not a serious ailment.
00:20:19 It wasn't until they were gonna have
00:20:23 If they'd taken five minutes
00:20:27 they could've looked at her records
00:20:30 (Moore) Because of the undisclosed
00:20:33 BlueCross dropped Tarsha Harris.
00:20:36 She thinks she's put this behind her.
00:20:40 tells the doctors, "We're taking the money
00:20:45 The fact of the matter is
00:20:51 I'm still a little bitter because
00:20:55 To me, it seems they're always
00:20:59 What happened to helping
00:21:02 Don't make their problems worse.
00:21:06 (Moore) This is Lee Einer.
00:21:09 If they weren't able to weed you out
00:21:12 Or deny you the care
00:21:16 And somehow ended up
00:21:20 They send in Lee. Their hitman.
00:21:23 His job is to get the company's money
00:21:28 All he has to do
00:21:33 Or a preexisting condition
00:21:37 We're gonna go after this
00:21:40 And I mean the whole unit dedicated to
00:21:43 going through your health history
00:21:47 looking for anything that would indicate
00:21:50 that you concealed something,
00:21:54 so that they can cancel the policy
00:21:57 or jack the rates so high
00:22:01 And if we couldn't find anything
00:22:05 you can still get hit
00:22:09 because you don't even have to have
00:22:13 In some states, it's legal to have
00:22:18 And that's a mouthful, I know,
00:22:20 but what that says is
00:22:25 you had any symptom which would incline
00:22:30 to have sought medical care,
00:22:33 then the condition of which that symptom
00:22:43 I know!
00:22:45 It's labyrinthine, isn't it?
00:22:50 They're supposed to be even-handed,
00:22:52 but with an insurance company,
00:22:56 So it's not unintentional,
00:23:00 it's not an oversight,
00:23:04 Somebody made that crack
00:23:09 And the intent
00:23:14 Looking back,
00:23:17 Did I do harm in people's lives?
00:23:19 Yeah. Hell, yeah.
00:23:25 I haven't worked for insurance companies
00:23:28 and I don't think
00:23:32 for my participation in that mess.
00:23:38 I am glad I'm out of it, though.
00:23:43 (Moore) Julie Pierce was struggling
00:23:48 Who was suffering
00:23:51 Julie works in the intensive care unit
00:23:55 in Kansas City. Missouri.
00:23:57 Which provided her family
00:24:00 Every month, there was a new drug
00:24:04 My insurance denied it. One letter
00:24:09 one letter might say, "it's not
00:24:15 and they denied it.
00:24:17 Then we came up with the bone marrow.
00:24:22 sometimes to completely get rid of it.
00:24:25 (Moore) Tracy's doctors said
00:24:29 on many other patients.
00:24:32 If one of Tracy's brothers turned out
00:24:36 There were promising bone marrow
00:24:42 Two weeks later, the bone marrow
00:24:46 "We've got the results back. His youngest
00:24:51 We were ecstatic.
00:24:54 You know, I think that's the happiest
00:25:00 in a while.
00:25:03 So we submitted it
00:25:07 Said it was "experimental."
00:25:11 So I found out that there is
00:25:15 that actually work at my hospital.
00:25:17 And they are the final decision-makers
00:25:22 (Moore) Julie and her husband
00:25:26 Demanded a meeting
00:25:29 The very people
00:25:33 They told Julie that they were
00:25:37 I said, "Your sympathy does me no good
00:25:41 And I told them, I said if I was...
00:25:47 I said, "I bet if it was Bruce van Cleve's
00:25:53 "No, it's nothing like that."
00:25:56 I said, "Or maybe
00:25:58 And I got up
00:26:02 When we got home,
00:26:06 And I knocked on the door and said,
00:26:12 I opened the door 'cause usually he'll say:
00:26:16 And he was sitting in there
00:26:21 And he said, "Why me?
00:26:25 And I said,
00:26:29 "We're strong, yeah."
00:26:33 You know, he goes,
00:26:37 He said, "I can leave everything,
00:26:48 The doctor told me
00:26:52 And...
00:26:55 On January 13th,
00:26:59 he went to sleep.
00:27:03 And he died five days later,
00:27:07 He was my best friend.
00:27:10 He was my soul mate.
00:27:17 I mean, we were to grow old together.
00:27:21 They took away
00:27:26 I wanna know why,
00:27:31 Why wasn't he given
00:27:36 You preach these vision and values that
00:27:40 That we're a healthcare
00:27:44 You left him behind.
00:27:49 It was as if he was nothing.
00:27:53 And I want them
00:27:56 And I don't think they do.
00:28:03 At all.
00:28:07 (Moore) There was one person
00:28:10 who did have a conscience.
00:28:12 Dr. Linda Peeno.
00:28:17 My name is Linda Peeno.
00:28:19 I am here today
00:28:24 In the spring of 1987,
00:28:28 I denied a man
00:28:32 that would have saved his life,
00:28:37 No person and no group
00:28:41 because, in fact, what I did was I saved
00:28:47 And, furthermore, this particular act
00:28:51 as a good medical director,
00:28:54 and it insured my continued advancement
00:28:58 I went from making a few hundred dollars
00:29:02 to an escalating six-figure income
00:29:07 In all my work, I had one primary duty,
00:29:13 for the financial benefit
00:29:17 And I was told repeatedly
00:29:21 I was simply denying payment.
00:29:23 I know how managed care
00:29:27 So I'm here to tell you
00:29:31 And I'm haunted by the thousands
00:29:33 on which I have written
00:29:36 Thank you.
00:29:42 (Moore) How did we get to the point
00:29:47 actually being responsible
00:29:53 Who invented this system?
00:29:57 How did this all begin?
00:30:02 Where did the HMO start?
00:30:09 Thanks to the wonders of magnetic tape.
00:31:15 I am proposing today
00:31:20 The purpose of this program
00:31:23 I want America to have
00:31:26 and I want every American to be able
00:31:34 (Moore) The plan hatched
00:31:38 In the ensuing years.
00:31:42 (reporter) Bigger logjams at the nearby
00:31:47 Been here about 18 hours,
00:31:50 (reporter) What looks cramped
00:31:54 (Moore)... while health insurance
00:31:57 The system was broken.
00:31:59 37 million Americans are without protection
00:32:04 (reporter #2) The losers are the poor.
00:32:08 until it's too late.
00:32:10 (Moore) This went on for years.
00:32:13 Until this man rode into town.
00:32:16 Bringing with him his little lady.
00:32:19 (# "I'll Take You There"
00:32:25 (Moore) Sassy.
00:32:29 Smart.
00:32:34 Sexy.
00:32:39 Some men couldn't handle it.
00:32:42 Today I am announcing the formation
00:32:45 of the President's Task Force
00:32:48 chaired by the First Lady,
00:32:51 (Moore) Hillary Clinton decided to make
00:32:57 Universal coverage now.
00:32:59 It will not depend upon
00:33:02 or if you have a preexisting condition.
00:33:04 Healthcare that can never
00:33:07 (reporter #3) Some Republicans complain
00:33:12 It's fairly risky business
00:33:15 to put his wife in charge of
00:33:19 And while I don't share the chairman's joy
00:33:22 on a government-run healthcare system,
00:33:26 I do share his intention to make the debate
00:33:30 - as exciting as possible.
00:33:35 - We'll do the best we can.
00:33:44 I have been told about your charm
00:33:49 Reports on your charm are overstated
00:33:52 - and reports on your wit are understated.
00:33:57 (Moore) She drove Washington insane.
00:34:00 Do you want the government
00:34:03 You won't have the choice
00:34:05 - Less government.
00:34:07 - More government.
00:34:10 When your mama gets sick, she might talk
00:34:14 This is a total mess,
00:34:17 Not this bureaucratic,
00:34:20 - Socialist takeover...
00:34:23 What really amounts to
00:34:29 (Moore) Ooh!
00:34:32 Nothing put more fear in us
00:34:36 And the chief fearmongers
00:34:40 have always been the good doctors
00:34:43 of the American Medical Association.
00:34:45 (man #4) This would put the government
00:34:48 defining services, setting standards,
00:34:51 establishing committees, calling for reports,
00:34:55 deciding who gets in and who gets out.
00:34:57 After all, the government has to treat
00:35:01 Take us all the way down the road to
00:35:06 (Moore) Yes. Medicine for everyone.
00:35:09 The AMA didn't want that.
00:35:13 And to drive the point home further.
00:35:15 They held thousands of coffeeklatsches
00:35:19 Where they invited their neighbors
00:35:23 made by a well-known actor
00:35:28 My name is Ronald Reagan.
00:35:30 One of the traditional methods of imposing
00:35:35 Has been by way of medicine.
00:35:38 The doctor begins to lose freedoms. It's
00:35:43 A doctor decides he wants
00:35:46 The government says to him.
00:35:49 They already have enough doctors.
00:35:53 All of us can see what happens
00:35:56 that the government can determine
00:36:02 And behind it will come
00:36:05 that will invade every area of freedom
00:36:09 Until one day. We will awake
00:36:18 (reporter #4) The White House
00:36:20 Reacting to burning an effigy
00:36:23 (Moore) The times may have changed.
00:36:27 The healthcare industries spent
00:36:31 to defeat Hillary's healthcare plan.
00:36:35 And I want now
00:36:39 because he loves the Easter egg roll.
00:36:42 (Moore) For the next seven years
00:36:45 She wasn't allowed to bring it up again.
00:36:47 Is anybody here older than two?
00:36:49 (Moore) A decade and a half went by.
00:36:52 And still America
00:36:55 The United States slipped to number 37
00:37:00 Just slightly ahead of Slovenia.
00:37:03 (men speaking Slovenian)
00:37:07 But that's understandable. Because
00:37:13 Mr. Speaker, today I rise
00:37:16 to the confectioners
00:37:19 as they celebrate the 50th anniversary
00:37:21 of one of their most recognized
00:37:24 not to mention my daughter's favorite,
00:37:28 (Moore) And thus. The healthcare industry
00:37:33 Humana more than doubles its fourth
00:37:37 United Health has tripled
00:37:39 (Moore) Making obscene profits...
00:37:42 ...better-than-expected earnings.
00:37:44 There's a lot of
00:37:47 Are they willing to share
00:37:49 (Moore)... turning their CEOs
00:37:53 And skirting the law
00:37:58 But their biggest accomplishment
00:38:03 (man #5) This is Washington at work.
00:38:08 (Moore) With four times
00:38:11 than there are members of Congress.
00:38:13 They even managed to buy off old foes.
00:38:17 For her silence.
00:38:19 And she became the second largest
00:38:23 of healthcare industry contributions.
00:38:30 We've given the entire healthcare system
00:38:35 - And they have total control.
00:38:40 Drug companies like to buy
00:38:44 Here's what it costs
00:38:48 And this woman.
00:38:52 This guy.
00:38:54 And this guy. And him too.
00:38:58 (man #6) Ladies and gentlemen,
00:39:03 (Moore) And the biggest check
00:39:07 Why did they hand out all this cash?
00:39:10 They wanted a bill passed - a bill
00:39:15 Let there be no mistake about it.
00:39:18 Republicans love their mothers,
00:39:21 as much as anybody else on this hill,
00:39:27 (Moore) Of course. It was really a bill
00:39:32 to the drug and health insurance industry.
00:39:34 By letting the drug companies
00:39:38 And making the private health insurance
00:39:41 Everybody was going to get their cut.
00:39:44 The man they appointed
00:39:47 was congressman Billy Tauzin.
00:39:49 He was the right man for the job
00:39:55 There's no one in this house loves
00:39:59 I challenge you on that, sir.
00:40:01 Nobody in this body that loves their mother
00:40:06 I love that woman.
00:40:08 Do you think for a second
00:40:11 any more than we love ours?
00:40:13 Do you think Republicans
00:40:17 Do you really believe that, Mr. Stoddard?
00:40:21 (Moore) Oh. They all loved their mothers.
00:40:24 It's just that they didn't
00:40:28 Now I'm honored and pleased
00:40:34 the Medicare Prescription Drug,
00:40:39 of 2003.
00:40:43 (Moore) What they didn't tell us was
00:40:46 for their prescriptions than they did before.
00:40:49 Over to thirds of senior citizens
00:40:56 And when it was over. 14 congressional
00:41:01 quit their jobs on the Hill and went
00:41:07 As did one congressman.
00:41:09 # 'Cause I've got a golden ticket...
00:41:13 (Moore) Billy Tauzin left Congress
00:41:18 The drug industry lobby.
00:41:20 For a salary of $ 2 million a year.
00:41:25 Oh. It was a happy day in Washington.
00:41:28 Many Americans knew they were never
00:41:34 And that's why some of them
00:41:44 (woman #3) We're driving across
00:41:47 Back there is the Renaissance Center,
00:41:51 General Motors' headquarters,
00:41:55 You get a really nice view
00:41:59 (Moore) This is Adrian Campbell.
00:42:02 Who at the age of 22
00:42:06 (Adrian) I got cervical cancer and I was
00:42:11 They said, "We're not paying for it
00:42:15 "You shouldn't be having cervical cancer.
00:42:18 (Moore) Forced into debt.
00:42:22 Adrian was fed up
00:42:25 She had a new plan.
00:42:27 I have everything ready
00:42:30 I got my passports ready,
00:42:34 It's three dollars and 25 cents
00:42:38 And I got everything just sitting
00:42:47 Aurora, be very quiet.
00:42:53 - Citizenships?
00:42:55 - Where do you live?
00:42:57 - That's not on, right?
00:43:00 (Moore) She may live in Michigan.
00:43:03 But ten blocks across the border.
00:43:09 How long have you been living here?
00:43:12 A couple.
00:43:16 - I still have mine.
00:43:19 That's fine, I don't mind.
00:43:22 I put down Kyle's address at the clinic,
00:43:25 and when they ask, you know,
00:43:28 I put down that I was
00:43:32 I don't like to lie and I don't like liars.
00:43:34 It's little white lies, but it's...
00:43:40 You don't bring a checkbook when you
00:43:45 It's something you don't have to worry
00:43:50 Stress free.
00:43:56 - They called the cops.
00:43:59 alerted the clinic
00:44:01 And I don't think
00:44:04 So I have another idea.
00:44:06 I'm gonna go down to the other clinic.
00:44:09 There is a clinic down...
00:44:14 The police showed up over there.
00:44:19 (Moore) Yes. What Adrian was doing
00:44:23 We go into other countries
00:44:27 It's tricky. But it's allowed.
00:44:33 (Kyle) It's kind of frustrating having...
00:44:35 Just get married and that'd solve
00:44:39 Americans marry Canadians
00:44:42 - I'm being used.
00:44:46 See if it works.
00:44:52 In Canada they give everybody
00:44:55 - Doesn't it work up there?
00:44:57 We wait months to get treatment
00:45:01 (reporter # 5) In Canada you have to wait
00:45:06 (reporter #6) Many Canadians believe
00:45:11 (reporter #7) They pay their doctors less.
00:45:13 (reporter #8) A surgeon can only do
00:45:16 With only so many
00:45:19 It's easier for your cat or dog
00:45:23 You die of cancer waiting for chemo 'cause
00:45:28 If you think socialized medicine
00:45:34 (Moore) I thought who better to ask than
00:45:40 But they wouldn't cross the border
00:45:43 They wanted me to meet them
00:45:47 What are you guys doing here?
00:45:51 - We're buying insurance.
00:45:55 Right, that's just across the river.
00:45:57 Yeah.
00:45:59 You wouldn't go over to see us in Michigan
00:46:03 No, we wouldn't. We're just adamant
00:46:08 If somebody punches us in the mouth
00:46:12 You don't want to get caught
00:46:15 We have nothing against Americans
00:46:21 - (Moore) We're a nice and simple people.
00:46:29 (Moore) I decided to explore
00:46:32 Over some fine Canadian cuisine.
00:46:35 We have a friend who went to Hawaii.
00:46:38 And he sustained a head injury
00:46:43 And before he was
00:46:46 he had chalked up a bill
00:46:51 So what middle-class Canadian
00:46:55 (Moore) I guess I feel bad that you would
00:47:00 We're not criticizing your country,
00:47:04 that we could not afford
00:47:08 - (Moore) Even for a day?
00:47:13 (Moore) To prove their point even further.
00:47:17 to talk to Larry Godfrey. Who had a golfing
00:47:23 I could hear a noise and feel a pain,
00:47:28 that holds the bicep in place.
00:47:31 So this bicep muscle was released,
00:47:34 and it ended up here on my chest.
00:47:37 - The muscle ended up in your chest?
00:47:41 (Moore) Like all good golfers.
00:47:44 before seeking medical attention.
00:47:48 That's when he got the bad news.
00:47:50 I wasn't too worried as I had
00:47:53 but when he told me
00:47:57 - (Moore) 24,000?
00:48:01 So if you'd stayed in the United States,
00:48:04 Instead, you went back to Canada,
00:48:09 - Everything.
00:48:12 - Nothing.
00:48:13 Zero. Zero.
00:48:16 I'm wondering why you expect your fellow
00:48:20 why should they, through their tax dollars,
00:48:25 Because we would
00:48:29 It's just the way it's always been
00:48:33 Right, but if you
00:48:36 and don't pay for everybody else's
00:48:40 Well, there are a lot of people who aren't
00:48:44 And somebody has to look after them.
00:48:46 Are you a member of the Socialist Party?
00:48:48 - No. No.
00:48:51 No. Well, actually, I'm a member
00:48:56 Is that bad?
00:48:59 - Well, it's just a little confusing.
00:49:03 It shouldn't be. I think that...
00:49:05 Where medical matters are concerned,
00:49:09 what party you were affiliated with, if any.
00:49:13 But, to us,
00:49:16 you know, why don't you think
00:49:19 What's wrong on this issue with us?
00:49:21 I guess the powers that be
00:49:28 that healthcare ought to be universal.
00:49:30 I mean, Canadians didn't until we met up
00:49:35 who pretty much
00:49:39 - One guy?
00:49:43 - Can he come over and visit us?
00:49:46 In fact, he was...
00:49:48 He's just most recently been revered as
00:49:54 - We think so much of...
00:49:57 In our whole history.
00:49:59 - More than your first prime minister?
00:50:02 Even more than Wayne Gretzky.
00:50:04 - No way!
00:50:07 - More than Céline Dion?
00:50:11 - More than Rocky and Bullwinkle?
00:50:20 As the blade went through,
00:50:23 and it sliced through the entire group
00:50:29 And I realized
00:50:33 (man) Obviously, putting on
00:50:36 is one of the more dramatic things
00:50:39 If you're looking at five fingers,
00:50:43 There actually was four surgeons,
00:50:47 and two different anesthetists
00:50:51 When Brad came in, we didn't have to
00:50:56 He needed help and we could concentrate
00:51:02 (Moore) I met this American, he'd cut off
00:51:08 So when he arrived at the hospital, they
00:51:13 and the other one was gonna be $12,000.
00:51:16 He had to choose
00:51:20 Down. Bend the long finger down.
00:51:22 (surgeon) We've never told someone
00:51:26 because the system wouldn't allow it.
00:51:28 I'm very glad I work within a system that
00:51:34 and not have to
00:51:36 (Moore) It seems nothing we were told
00:51:40 Maybe I was just
00:51:43 So I went across the city
00:51:47 How long did you have to wait here
00:51:49 - 20 minutes.
00:51:52 - I got helped right away.
00:51:55 They really do an amazing job.
00:51:58 (Moore) Did you have to get permission
00:52:01 - No.
00:52:02 We can go anywhere we want.
00:52:05 (Moore) You don't have to get it
00:52:09 - Oh, heavens, no.
00:52:12 - Oh, yes.
00:52:15 - Nothing.
00:52:17 I don't know.
00:52:21 - (Moore) So what did this cost?
00:52:23 We know in America
00:52:26 but I guess we don't understand that,
00:52:31 And we're dealing with
00:52:34 We're very, very lucky.
00:52:37 I mean, we complain.
00:52:40 - (Moore) Right, you're Canadian.
00:52:45 for making sure that the least of us
00:52:51 (Moore) It turns out that Canadians
00:52:56 That's not hard to believe
00:53:02 # Oh, England, here we go
00:53:09 (Moore) Erik Turnbow of Olympia.
00:53:13 so that he could visit the famed
00:53:18 But it wasn't enough for Erik to just
00:53:22 He had to do it his own special way.
00:53:26 (man #7) Here's Erik, about to walk
00:53:33 Ready?
00:53:35 - Ugh!
00:53:39 (man #7) Try it again.
00:53:49 - Are you in pain?
00:53:55 (Moore) The British hospital
00:54:01 And only about ten bucks
00:54:06 - (man #7) You're all slung up.
00:54:14 (Moore) I decided to go to Great Britain to
00:54:19 And drugs could cost only ten dollars.
00:54:25 If I come in here and I have a prescription
00:54:30 It's L6.65.
00:54:33 (Moore) L6.65?
00:54:37 - Yes.
00:54:40 - Same charge.
00:54:42 - L6.65 still.
00:54:44 - No.
00:54:48 Still L6.65.
00:54:50 If they are under 16 or over 60,
00:54:56 (Moore) So only a working adult
00:55:01 Everybody else gets medication free?
00:55:03 - No money being exchanged here?
00:55:06 - There's no money being exchanged?
00:55:09 What's the purpose
00:55:14 I'm just wondering where's the bread
00:55:19 I can't pick up
00:55:22 No. I haven't been trained for that many
00:55:39 (Moore) I next went to a state-run hospital.
00:55:46 (woman # 4) I'm due in seven weeks
00:55:51 And then I can have six months off unpaid
00:55:55 (Moore) Well, that sounds
00:55:58 Oh, really, it's not like that in the US?
00:56:04 (Moore) So what do you pay
00:56:06 No one pays.
00:56:10 They were asking how do people pay.
00:56:12 I said there isn't...
00:56:15 It's national insurance.
00:56:22 (Moore) Even with insurance.
00:56:26 - So where's the billing department?
00:56:29 There's no such thing.
00:56:32 (Moore) What did they charge
00:56:34 - Sorry?
00:56:37 - No. This is NHS.
00:56:41 You know, it's not America.
00:56:46 (Moore) Maybe I'd have better luck in the
00:56:52 This guy broke his ankle.
00:56:57 The emergency room visit. He'll have
00:57:01 Here... NHS, everything is free.
00:57:04 (Moore) I'm asking about hospital charges
00:57:08 I was never asked this question
00:57:13 (Moore) I was starting to fall
00:57:17 And then I discovered this.
00:57:20 So this is where people come to pay
00:57:24 No, this is the NHS hospital,
00:57:27 You get to just go home?
00:57:30 Why does it say "cashier" here
00:57:35 All we have is a little man
00:57:37 and he gives people money
00:57:42 Those who have reduced means
00:57:46 Thank you.
00:57:47 (Moore) So in British hospitals. Instead
00:57:52 Money comes out.
00:57:54 The criteria for letting you out
00:57:57 the criteria are, are you fit to go
00:58:00 (Moore) Clearly. I was just
00:58:09 What I needed
00:58:12 who would have some understanding.
00:58:14 (woman #5) I first came to London in 1992.
00:58:18 And we just ended up staying
00:58:22 Well, I had them all on the NHS, which is
00:58:28 I think, like a lot of Americans,
00:58:32 was just bottom of the rung treatment,
00:58:35 that the only way would be horrible
00:58:39 I mean, that's kind of how...
00:58:41 - And it's terrible that that's what I thought.
00:58:45 After having a baby.
00:58:49 (singing in Russian)
00:59:13 And then it occurred to me
00:59:17 We've socialized a lot of things.
00:59:44 I kind of like having a police department
00:59:50 And I got to wondering. Why don't we
00:59:56 Like healthcare?
00:59:58 When did this whole idea that every British
01:00:03 Well, if you go back,
01:00:06 Before we had the vote all the power
01:00:11 If you had money, you could get
01:00:14 look after yourself when you were old.
01:00:16 And what democracy did
01:00:21 And it moved power from the marketplace
01:00:25 From the wallet to the ballot.
01:00:28 And what people said was very simple.
01:00:30 They said, "In the 1930s,
01:00:34 "But we don't have unemployment
01:00:36 "If you can have full employment
01:00:39 why can't we have it by
00:00:01 If you can find money to kill people,
00:00:06 Right.
00:00:07 This leaflet that was issued
00:00:11 - What year was this?
00:00:13 "Your new National Health Service
00:00:17 "What is it? How do you get it?"
00:00:19 "It will provide you with all
00:00:24 "Everyone, rich or poor, man, woman
00:00:29 "There are no charges,
00:00:32 "There is no insurance qualifications,
00:00:36 "You are paying for it
00:00:39 and it will relieve your money worries
00:00:43 Now, somehow,
00:00:53 (Moore) I was amazed
00:00:58 The British had come out of a devastating
00:01:03 The country was destroyed
00:01:07 They had nothing.
00:01:09 In just one eight-month period.
00:01:12 Over 42.000 civilians lost their lives.
00:01:17 What we went through
00:01:20 They went through
00:01:25 Remember how we all felt after 911 ?
00:01:31 I guess that's how they felt.
00:01:35 And the first way that they decided
00:01:38 was to provide free medical care
00:01:43 Even Mrs. Thatcher said, "The National
00:01:48 It's as non-controversial
00:01:51 Nobody could say,
00:01:54 People wouldn't have it,
00:01:57 They wouldn't accept the deterioration or
00:02:01 If Thatcher or Blair said, "I'm going
00:02:05 There would have been a revolution.
00:02:08 (# "Street Fighting Man"
00:02:16 (reporter #9) A report from the AMA
00:02:22 says Brits are far healthier
00:02:25 (man #8) For every illness that we looked
00:02:29 (reporter #9) Cancer. Heart disease.
00:02:33 All significantly higher for Americans.
00:02:36 Even the poorest people in England
00:02:38 with all the environmental factors that give
00:02:42 can expect to live longer
00:02:55 (Moore) I was wondering. Though.
00:02:58 Who have to live
00:03:02 And you're a family doctor?
00:03:04 Yeah, I suppose we'd call them GPs
00:03:07 - Right, so you have a family practice?
00:03:11 We have nine doctors in that practice.
00:03:13 - Paid for by the government?
00:03:15 You work for the government?
00:03:18 A patient comes to you.
00:03:21 the government insurance company
00:03:24 No, I don't deal with money at all
00:03:28 Have you ever had to say no to someone
00:03:31 - No, never.
00:03:35 being in the hospital and being removed
00:03:39 No, never.
00:03:41 So working for the government,
00:03:45 No. I have a car that I use
00:03:48 An old beater?
00:03:56 You live in a rough part of town?
00:03:59 I live in a terrific part of town.
00:04:06 It's a lovely house.
00:04:09 (Moore) How many other families
00:04:12 There's four bedrooms for my wife
00:04:17 - (Moore) How much did you pay for that?
00:04:22 (Moore) So, a million dollars?
00:04:24 You're a government-paid doctor on a
00:04:29 - and you live in a million-dollar home?
00:04:37 - I think my friends think we do quite well.
00:04:41 I earn around 85,000,
00:04:44 - L85,000?
00:04:46 And that includes pension
00:04:49 They probably earn just
00:04:52 - L100,000? So that's almost $ 200,000?
00:04:56 The money that we earn,
00:04:59 So the better we do for our patients,
00:05:03 - What do you mean?
00:05:06 And in that new system, if the most number
00:05:11 or you get most of your patients
00:05:14 or you get your patients to have
00:05:17 or low cholesterols,
00:05:20 This year, if you get more people
00:05:24 you'll get more money,
00:05:26 Oh, yeah. Absolutely.
00:05:28 So doctors in America do not have to fear
00:05:35 No. I think if you want to have
00:05:39 and four or five nice cars
00:05:43 then maybe, yeah, you need to practice
00:05:47 But I think we live comfortably here.
00:05:49 London is expensive,
00:05:52 You're getting by OK on the million-dollar
00:05:56 Yeah, we're coping with those.
00:06:00 I think democracy is the most
00:06:03 Far more revolutionary than
00:06:07 Because if you have power, you use it
00:06:13 And this idea of choice which capital
00:06:17 choice depends
00:06:19 If you're shackled with debt,
00:06:23 (Moore) It seems it benefits the system if
00:06:27 People in debt become hopeless,
00:06:31 They always say
00:06:33 but I think if the poor in Britain
00:06:38 voted for people
00:06:41 it would be a real democratic revolution.
00:06:43 So they don't want it to happen. So keeping
00:06:47 See, I think there are two ways
00:06:51 First of all, frighten people,
00:06:55 An educated, healthy and confident
00:06:59 And I think there's an element
00:07:03 "We don't want people to be
00:07:07 because they would get out of control."
00:07:09 The top 1 % of the world's population
00:07:14 It's incredible that people put up with it,
00:07:18 they're demoralized, they're frightened.
00:07:20 And therefore, they think
00:07:23 is to take orders and hope for the best.
00:07:30 (Moore) And hope for the best
00:07:33 Right from the moment we're born.
00:07:35 We've got the worst infant mortality rate
00:07:39 A baby born in El Salvador
00:07:42 than a baby born in Detroit.
00:07:44 But it gets better
00:07:47 (man #9) Classrooms with 40 students.
00:07:50 (Moore) No wonder the majority
00:07:54 But that's OK.
00:07:56 By the time we graduate.
00:07:59 We're in debt before our first job.
00:08:02 I'm at about... we'll say about $35,000
00:08:07 (Moore) You'll be the employee they're
00:08:11 3,904, 3,905...
00:08:14 What employer wouldn't employ someone
00:08:17 Because they won't cause any trouble?
00:08:21 In addition to paying off your college debt.
00:08:25 It would be horrible
00:08:28 You can always quit, you know. There's
00:08:32 (Moore) If that one job
00:08:35 You can get another one.
00:08:39 I work three jobs,
00:08:43 - You work three jobs?
00:08:46 Uniquely American, isn't it? I mean,
00:08:51 Get any sleep?
00:08:53 (Moore) If you're not sleeping.
00:08:56 (man #10) You're tired all the time.
00:08:58 (woman #8) If you suffer
00:09:00 (woman #9) Generalized anxiety disorder.
00:09:03 (woman #10) It could be adult ADD.
00:09:05 - (woman #11) Ask your doctor.
00:09:08 (Moore) Yes. Ask your doctor.
00:09:12 That should keep you doped up
00:09:15 Did I say retire? (laughs)
00:09:18 If you make it to 80.
00:09:21 Unlike the new employees for these
00:09:24 But I'm sure our kids will take care of us.
00:09:29 Remember. Let's defeat the terrorists over
00:09:35 Kaiser Permanente
00:09:39 And Dawnelle Keyes was fortunate
00:09:44 It's a good thing. Because one night.
00:09:48 Developed a fever of over 104.
00:09:52 So. Like any responsible mom.
00:09:55 And the ambulance took Mychelle
00:09:59 The hospital checked with her HMO
00:10:01 and they were told that Kaiser would not
00:10:05 necessary to treat Mychelle.
00:10:08 She would have to take her to
00:10:13 Kaiser said that I should
00:10:18 and that she shouldn't be treated
00:10:22 I just continued to ask them
00:10:28 My daughter got worse
00:10:34 (Moore) Dawnelle begged doctors to not
00:10:40 I was escorted out of the hospital
00:10:46 (Moore) After hours of delay.
00:10:51 And got there just in time
00:10:55 They worked on her for about 30 minutes,
00:11:00 And the doctors came in
00:11:10 I was in a daze, a real daze.
00:11:16 I just held her.
00:11:18 I held her and I told her
00:11:22 to make sure that she was gonna
00:11:28 And that I was sorry
00:11:38 (toy) Simon says: Give the answer.
00:11:40 (# computerized tune)
00:11:45 Uh-oh.
00:11:47 (Moore) This is Karena
00:11:50 Karena is a graduate
00:11:53 And a native of my hometown
00:11:57 Six months ago. Zoë.
00:12:01 Came down with a high fever.
00:12:03 What happened
00:12:06 turned blue and passed out
00:12:10 It was the most horrible moment
00:12:14 just because I thought
00:12:18 And I had no clue what to do.
00:12:20 At the hospital, they gave her
00:12:25 and examined her, took some blood.
00:12:27 - (Moore) What was wrong with her?
00:12:30 But we stayed at the hospital
00:12:34 - just so they could keep an eye on her.
00:12:37 Yeah. They just basically
00:12:41 And how much did all this cost you,
00:12:44 - Nothing.
00:12:46 - Nothing. Nothing at all.
00:12:51 - I live in France.
00:12:54 Yeah.
00:12:57 (Moore) Ah. France.
00:12:59 They enjoy their wine.
00:13:04 And yet.
00:13:07 They live much longer than we do.
00:13:10 Something about that
00:13:16 This is Alexi Cremieux.
00:13:17 He spent his entire adult life in the US
00:13:24 (Alexi) I lived in America for 13 years.
00:13:29 But then when I discovered that I had
00:13:33 unfortunately,
00:13:36 Even though I had never paid taxes
00:13:39 I left when I was 18,
00:13:42 for them it was,
00:13:45 so we're gonna give him,
00:13:50 - (Moore) How are you doing now?
00:13:53 but I had three months
00:13:55 So after three months, I saw my doctor
00:13:59 I said, "No, I don't feel like it."
00:14:01 "Right now, I'm not ready."
00:14:04 I said, "Well, I don't know."
00:14:08 I said, "I think three months
00:14:10 He said, "OK, so take three months off."
00:14:15 that I gave to my employer
00:14:19 - So I went to the south of France...
00:14:23 Yes. Yes.
00:14:25 I get 65% paid by the government,
00:14:30 and then the other 35%
00:14:34 To make sure you get 100%.
00:14:38 So it was April, it was spring again. So
00:14:43 And that really helped me a lot,
00:14:49 I mean, it was like night and day. In three
00:14:54 to a 35-year-old man again.
00:14:57 But that's because I had that time
00:15:06 I'm not in a position to make any judgment
00:15:13 I think the United States
00:15:16 Americans are great people.
00:15:19 But as a doctor first, as a citizen second,
00:15:24 and eventually, as a patient third,
00:15:27 I'm very glad to be in France.
00:15:30 It's kind of a luxury here.
00:15:32 You are sick, you step in a hospital,
00:15:37 It doesn't depend on your premiums.
00:15:40 One of the principles is solidarity.
00:15:43 People who are better off
00:15:48 You pay according to your means
00:15:52 (Moore) Do you think
00:15:55 No.
00:15:57 (Moore) He could barely contain
00:16:02 And I just didn't want
00:16:10 So I found a group of Americans
00:16:14 Who I know would tell me the truth.
00:16:17 I was diagnosed five years ago
00:16:21 - I was a bit nervous to tell them I had...
00:16:26 There's a place to check off
00:16:29 I was nervous that they
00:16:32 And instead, I went into a hospital,
00:16:36 And they do an amazing amount
00:16:40 They asked if you have
00:16:42 not to punish you,
00:16:45 - Yes.
00:16:48 As soon as I was in, it was,
00:16:54 - People said "Rest."
00:16:58 - I think it's unlimited.
00:17:00 Yes. How can you limit sick days?
00:17:05 I've gone to emergency rooms
00:17:09 And have never waited
00:17:11 I can call and somebody comes
00:17:14 No way? Making a house call?
00:17:18 How many of you have had
00:17:21 - 3:00am last Friday.
00:17:24 - Nothing.
00:17:32 Where are we going?
00:17:36 We are going to see a man
00:17:39 - Abdominal pain?
00:18:23 - Where do we go next?
00:18:35 (# "L'amour est bleu"
00:19:00 I say to anyone who asks me
00:19:02 is that I think it's one of the friendliest
00:19:06 And talk about family values -
00:19:11 We don't pay for day care.
00:19:13 The day care where I send my daughter -
00:19:21 So how much does it cost you to have
00:19:31 (Moore) Are you happy
00:19:49 Here, my kids are sure that they are going
00:19:55 - college I don't have to worry about...
00:19:59 - It's free.
00:20:01 - You can get a college education for free.
00:20:04 - Yes.
00:20:08 They rest, they enjoy life.
00:20:10 They spend time with their kids,
00:20:14 - How many weeks of paid vacation?
00:20:17 Five weeks?
00:20:20 If you work for a large company,
00:20:23 - Remember that there is a 35-hour week.
00:20:27 (Moore) I read it was higher
00:20:30 If they're working more than 35 hours
00:20:34 That is for part-time
00:20:37 You get five weeks paid vacation
00:20:41 - Of course.
00:20:42 If you get married, you get an extra week
00:20:46 - In addition to your five weeks.
00:20:50 Also if you move.
00:20:51 You mean if you move
00:20:54 You get one day.
00:20:56 - You get a day to move and they pay you?
00:21:00 When my daughter was three months old,
00:21:03 to give you tips on what to do
00:21:08 And they'll come to your house
00:21:12 - They will! Sure!
00:21:14 Stop! Stop!
00:21:16 - When you have a baby.
00:21:22 What are you doing?
00:21:29 You from the government?
00:21:34 - Can she do anything else?
00:21:38 She's, of course,
00:21:41 And I think if I ask her
00:21:47 she can do it.
00:21:54 No problem.
00:21:56 She's coming twice a week.
00:22:00 Four hours a day.
00:22:02 for me, for the house,
00:22:06 It's very precious for me.
00:22:09 You don't have any associations?
00:22:12 No. Nobody from the government
00:22:17 and does your laundry for you,
00:22:22 - It's difficult.
00:22:25 (woman #12) Something that I experience
00:22:29 Guilt for being here almost,
00:22:32 and seeing the advantages and
00:22:36 Things that my parents worked their whole
00:22:42 It's really hard
00:22:45 in a very privileged position,
00:22:49 but in comparison, definitely.
00:22:55 One of the things
00:22:58 is that the government
00:23:01 They're afraid of protests,
00:23:06 In the States, people are afraid of the
00:23:11 They're afraid of protesting,
00:23:14 In France, that's what people do.
00:23:57 (Moore) Free college education.
00:24:01 Government-issued nannies.
00:24:03 I began to wonder
00:24:07 And then I realized
00:24:10 I wanted to see what effect
00:24:15 So I went to find out.
00:24:21 - Hello. Welcome.
00:24:24 It's very nice.
00:24:36 - It's the news.
00:24:41 What is your combined income for
00:24:51 All right. You're an engineer
00:25:04 (Moore) How much is your mortgage?
00:25:14 - (Moore) How many cars do you own?
00:25:17 (Moore) Do you owe money
00:25:22 Is there any other debt? Loans, anything?
00:25:26 - Only the apartment.
00:25:31 The fish.
00:25:34 Fish. Vegetables.
00:25:37 Vegetables are a big
00:25:39 - Yes. And fruit. Yogurt.
00:25:44 What are your other big expenses?
00:25:47 Very important.
00:26:04 - (Moore) Kenya?
00:26:07 - (Moore) Are you happy?
00:26:15 (# "Je t'aime moi non plus"
00:26:29 (Moore) After seeing all this.
00:26:33 Was there a reason
00:26:37 wants us to hate the French?
00:26:45 Are they worried
00:26:53 Or like their ways of doing things?
00:27:04 It was enough to make me
00:27:18 Meanwhile. Back at home.
00:27:20 Hospitals had found a new way
00:27:23 who didn't have health insurance
00:27:25 and couldn't pay their bill.
00:27:29 I was standing against the wall and I saw
00:27:35 I watched to see what was happening
00:27:39 'cause it's not a new thing.
00:27:41 They pulled up right here
00:27:44 and dropped Carol off
00:27:47 And as soon as they pulled away, she
00:27:51 She then walked all the way down to the
00:27:55 has no shoes on whatsoever
00:27:59 And those gowns are thin.
00:28:01 That's when one of our staff members went
00:28:05 and found out that she was disoriented
00:29:24 Kaiser Permanente in Bellflower hospital
00:29:29 and directed them
00:29:33 But the names of the hospitals had been
00:29:38 I have seen others that have come through
00:29:43 (Moore) They told me that.
00:29:46 Over 50 patients
00:29:49 The options are few. We either open
00:29:53 which is not the humane thing to do,
00:29:55 or we try to find someplace for them to go.
00:29:58 And right now,
00:30:03 (Moore) The night
00:30:05 The county hospital run by
00:30:10 One of the richest private schools
00:30:12 Dumped another patient off on the curb.
00:30:16 A woman unable to pay her hospital bill.
00:30:23 - Do you know how you got here?
00:30:25 - In the cab?
00:30:28 They gave him the voucher.
00:30:32 He dropped me off there,
00:30:36 Ma'am, are you in pain right now?
00:30:40 - Yes.
00:30:43 She, at this time, has broken ribs,
00:30:46 and stitches that are not completely healed
00:30:49 across the top of her head
00:30:52 Now let me ask you, ma'am.
00:30:55 did they ask you
00:30:58 No.
00:30:59 They didn't ask you any questions
00:31:02 or whether or not
00:31:05 No, they just told me
00:31:12 (Moore) May I take a minute to ask
00:31:18 Who are we?
00:31:22 Is this what we've become?
00:31:24 A nation that dumps its own citizens like
00:31:29 Because they can't pay
00:31:34 I always thought. And believe to this day.
00:31:39 This is what we do
00:31:41 Anybody gets sick,
00:31:45 (Moore) People with a good heart...
00:31:47 (man #12) You feel like you're sacrificing,
00:31:52 (Moore)... and a good soul.
00:31:54 We've got a lot of support and we're gonna
00:31:58 (Moore) Neighbors quick to lend a helping
00:32:03 I deliver meals to them,
00:32:07 that this is just the least that I can do.
00:32:10 (Moore) They say that you
00:32:14 by how it treats those
00:32:18 But is the opposite true? That you can
00:32:26 Its heroes?
00:32:28 (man #13) The firefighters and police,
00:32:32 have responded with true heroism.
00:32:35 It was their initial heroism
00:32:41 Without regard, in many instances,
00:32:46 - They truly are heroes.
00:32:52 Here they are, the men and women who
00:32:56 and for all of us in America!
00:33:08 Don't forget about the raffles going on
00:33:13 I spent two and a half years down there.
00:33:15 I got upper and lower
00:33:19 I need a double lung transplant,
00:33:23 I haven't slept in a bed in over five years,
00:33:27 because if I lay down I can't breathe.
00:33:29 (Moore) There were hundreds
00:33:33 who were not city employees.
00:33:35 But rather ran down to Ground Zero
00:33:39 We need volunteers for first aid!
00:33:42 (Moore) And many developed
00:33:46 That's when the government said:
00:33:48 "They're not our responsibility
00:33:55 John Graham is an EMT volunteer
00:34:00 He was in Lower Manhattan
00:34:04 And rushed over to help.
00:34:06 He worked in the rescue effort
00:34:10 But then had trouble
00:34:14 They just deny you for any reason.
00:34:20 I really feel like
00:34:24 It's terrible.
00:34:28 that the United States would do this.
00:34:31 (Moore) William Maher is a volunteer
00:34:35 He spent to months
00:34:39 Recovering bodies or body parts.
00:34:43 I'm experiencing
00:34:47 or whatever you'd like to call them,
00:34:49 and it affected
00:34:52 and unaware of it because I was asleep
00:34:54 and I just kept
00:34:57 The upper fronts are damaged,
00:35:00 because of my constant grinding
00:35:03 I've been before a workers' comp board
00:35:07 I've been denied three times, and hopefully
00:35:13 if I can get the necessary documentation.
00:35:18 (Moore) Of course.
00:35:22 supposedly to help rescue workers.
00:35:24 Ladies and gentlemen,
00:35:28 (Moore) But the government.
00:35:31 Made it very difficult
00:35:35 You have to have spent
00:35:39 you have to be able to establish that.
00:35:42 You do have to file an affidavit
00:35:47 relating your work experiences
00:35:49 And then, even with all of that,
00:35:53 There is a presumption
00:35:55 but that presumption can be rebutted
00:36:00 We think it is a very fair approach
00:36:12 I'm sorry.
00:36:13 (Moore) Reggie Cervantes was
00:36:18 Nothing makes it go away sometimes.
00:36:25 It's just burning in my throat and irritated
00:36:31 Sometimes I have trouble breathing
00:36:38 (Moore) Reggie spent her days
00:36:41 and treating other rescue workers.
00:36:44 My airway was totally burnt
00:36:47 and I had trouble breathing by then.
00:36:50 But we wanted to see
00:36:53 we wanted to see if we had lost anybody,
00:36:59 I wanted to help.
00:37:03 You know, you see somebody
00:37:09 (Moore) Reggie had difficulty
00:37:13 Too sick to work and with no income.
00:37:15 She was forced to quit her job.
00:37:18 And used her savings
00:37:24 It's hard to figure out
00:37:27 We're trying to go about it the right way.
00:37:31 But we're ignored.
00:37:34 (Moore) But not everyone after 911
00:37:39 We're now approaching the five-year
00:37:44 So I'm announcing today
00:37:48 Abu Zubaydah, Ramzi Binalshibh,
00:37:52 and 11 other terrorists in CIA custody,
00:37:55 have been transferred to
00:38:01 (man #15) On that island are some of the
00:38:06 (man #16) These detainees are deadly
00:38:10 as well as a number of Osama bin Laden's
00:38:14 and others who had a direct role
00:38:19 The kind of people held at Guantanamo
00:38:24 Many of them have American blood on
00:38:30 It seems to me we have an obligation
00:38:33 to treat these individuals
00:38:38 (Moore) And then I learned
00:38:47 (man #16) Detainees representing a threat
00:38:51 are given access
00:38:54 They have acute care 24 hours a day,
00:38:59 everything can be performed right there
00:39:03 This is the dental clinic,
00:39:06 We have a physical therapy department,
00:39:11 We have one single operating room.
00:39:13 Health personnel to detainee ratio
00:39:18 They do sick call on the blocks three times
00:39:22 or bring that detainee back to the clinic
00:39:26 Screening for cancer has taken place.
00:39:28 Colonoscopy is a procedure which
00:39:33 We have diabetes,
00:39:36 We monitor the weight
00:39:39 so that we can track those detainees
00:39:43 monitoring their labs
00:39:45 Their medical attention... They get way
00:39:51 - You think it's as good as most US HMOs?
00:39:56 (man #15) I leave with an impression
00:40:00 than they received at home,
00:40:02 and as good as many people receive
00:40:07 (Moore) Wow! So there is actually
00:40:12 that had free universal healthcare.
00:40:15 That's all I needed to know.
00:40:19 I went down to Miami. Florida.
00:40:23 Got myself a boat.
00:40:25 And loaded up Bill.
00:40:28 And Reggie and John.
00:40:31 John, welcome, sir.
00:40:33 And anyone else I could find who needed
00:40:38 So many people showed up.
00:40:42 And I called up Donna Smith from Denver.
00:40:47 And asked her
00:40:50 I figured she'd like to get out
00:40:54 All right, let's go.
00:41:12 Which way to Guantanamo Bay?
00:41:16 We're not going to Cuba!
00:41:20 It's American soil!
00:41:58 We made it.
00:42:15 There it is.
00:42:18 That's the prison over there
00:42:21 - (Reggie) We're very close.
00:42:27 The white building is the hospital, I think.
00:42:32 OK, let's go.
00:42:38 (Moore) We commandeered a fishing boat
00:42:45 As we approached the line in the water
00:42:50 We were told to be careful for mines.
00:42:55 Permission to enter.
00:43:00 They need some medical attention.
00:43:07 These are 9/11 rescue workers!
00:43:12 The same kind that al-Qaida is getting.
00:43:17 They don't want any more than
00:43:23 Hello.
00:43:25 No one in the guard tower was
00:43:30 We figured it was time
00:43:33 But what was I supposed to do with these
00:43:38 I mean. Here we were stuck in some
00:43:42 And communists. No less. When I was
00:43:47 What was I supposed to do?
00:43:50 (# "I'll See You in C-U-B-A"
00:44:10 Excuse me, we're looking for a doctor.
00:44:14 Any doctors?
00:44:22 All in this one block?
00:44:29 All right, thank you very much.
00:44:32 (Moore) OK. OK. I know what you're
00:44:40 The worse place on Earth.
00:44:46 How do we know that? 'Cause that's
00:44:50 A series of offensive missile sites
00:44:54 than to provide a nuclear strike capability
00:44:59 I'm not gonna yield until Fidel Castro
00:45:04 That's a...
00:45:09 Put it in the bank.
00:45:12 (Moore) It seems that
00:45:16 was that he overthrew
00:45:19 And replaced him with a guy
00:45:24 And so now. After all these years.
00:45:28 the Cuban people
00:45:33 They've become known as having not
00:45:37 But as being one of the most generous
00:45:41 and medical equipment
00:45:45 In the US. Healthcare costs
00:45:50 But in Cuba. They spend only $ 251.
00:45:54 And yet the Cubans are able to have
00:45:59 A longer average life span
00:46:03 They believe in preventive medicine.
00:46:06 And it seems like there's a doctor
00:46:10 Their only sin
00:46:13 seems to be
00:46:16 Anybody need medication right now
00:46:25 - Are you the pharmacist?
00:46:28 Do you have this?
00:46:31 - Is this one similar to yours?
00:46:36 - This is $120 in the US?
00:46:43 - How much is that in American dollars?
00:46:47 - Five cents?
00:47:02 Thank you very much.
00:47:06 $120 is a lot of money
00:47:08 when you get $1,000 in social security
00:47:14 Five cents here?
00:47:18 It just doesn't make any sense.
00:47:22 It doesn't make any sense.
00:47:24 I wanna fill a suitcase up
00:47:53 (Moore) I took my group
00:47:56 to see if they could get some care.
00:48:00 They didn't ask for money
00:48:06 Just their name...
00:48:09 and date of birth.
00:48:14 That was the entire intake session.
00:48:36 (Moore) Thank you very much
00:48:41 I asked them to give us
00:48:44 they give their fellow Cuban citizens.
00:48:47 No more. No less.
00:48:49 And that's what they did.
00:48:51 I'm Dr. Roque.
00:48:54 - John Graham.
00:48:57 My lungs hurt. I have pain.
00:48:59 I get pretty severe nosebleeds at times.
00:49:02 I get terrible headaches in the night,
00:49:05 but I haven't been evaluated
00:49:08 - Yeah, I have...
00:49:12 Almost every medication
00:49:15 After 9/11, things have happened,
00:49:19 Because of certain conditions,
00:49:22 There's one test that they recommended
00:49:28 The dentist that I talked to,
00:49:33 It's two years I have no medical coverage,
00:49:40 It's OK, everything's gonna be OK.
00:49:43 Yes. I am so...
00:49:46 It's so hard for me to digest
00:49:52 Because 20 years of our lives
00:49:57 So I am so grateful.
00:50:02 No, you don't need to say that.
00:50:06 - Thank you. Thank you.
00:50:08 Come on, don't cry.
00:50:11 - Thank you.
00:51:36 (Moore) Reggie was diagnosed with
00:51:41 The Cuban doctors gave her
00:51:45 Along with some of those
00:51:50 William Maher received a number
00:51:54 Having ground down his teeth for
00:51:59 He left Cuba with a new set of teeth.
00:52:04 After a series of tests
00:52:08 John now knew
00:52:11 He was given a strict plan to follow.
00:52:15 and was feeling better
00:52:18 The Cuban doctors were able to take
00:52:24 And with a correct diagnosis.
00:52:28 to help her live a more normal life.
00:52:36 When firefighters
00:52:38 heard that the 911 rescue workers
00:52:41 They invited them over
00:52:44 And so. On our last day there.
00:52:47 As we arrived. They stood at attention
00:52:49 because. They said.
00:53:33 Sí. Somos familia. Y los hermanos
00:53:38 se sintió en el mundo completo.
00:53:42 The brothers we lost on 9/11
00:53:46 - Mis hermanos.
00:53:52 Don't hesitate to hug a brother.
00:54:00 It's very important for them to wear
00:54:04 - They're lungs.
00:54:06 SCBA. Self-Contained
00:54:09 Tenemos una reserva también en el carro.
00:54:12 Es un placer poder venir aquí.
00:54:14 Esto es lo único
00:54:19 F-F-F.
00:54:21 Three Fs.
00:54:32 (Moore) If this is what can happen
00:54:36 If one enemy can hold out his hand
00:54:40 Then what else is possible?
00:54:46 That's when I heard
00:54:49 anti-Michael Moore website
00:54:51 was going to have to shut it down.
00:54:54 He could no longer afford to keep it up
00:54:59 and they couldn't afford to pay
00:55:03 He was faced with a choice of either keep
00:55:10 Fortunately. He chose his wife.
00:55:14 But something seemed wrong
00:55:19 Why. In a free country. Shouldn't he
00:55:23 and exercise his First Amendment right
00:55:29 So I wrote a check for the $ 12.000
00:55:34 and in treatment.
00:55:40 His wife got better
00:55:51 It was hard for me to acknowledge
00:55:55 We truly are all in the same boat.
00:55:58 And that. No matter what our differences.
00:56:01 We sink or swim together.
00:56:04 That's how it seems to be
00:56:08 They take care of each other.
00:56:14 You know. When we see a good idea
00:56:19 If they build a better car. We drive it.
00:56:23 If they make a better wine. We drink it.
00:56:28 So if they've come up with
00:56:31 To teach their kids.
00:56:34 To take care of their babies.
00:56:38 To simply be good to each other.
00:56:41 Then what's our problem?
00:56:43 Why can't we do that?
00:56:46 They live in a world of "we."
00:56:50 We'll never fix anything
00:56:55 And powerful forces
00:56:59 And that we remain the only country
00:57:03 without free universal healthcare.
00:57:07 You know. If we ever did remove
00:57:11 College loans. Day care.
00:57:14 And everything else
00:57:18 Well. Watch out.
00:57:21 'Cause it'll be a new day in America.
00:57:25 In the meantime.
00:57:27 I'm gonna go get the government
00:57:31 (# "Don't Be Shy" by Cat Stevens)
01:00:02 (# "Alone Without You"
01:01:30 (# "Ce Monde Absurde"