The Informant

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00:02:29 You know that orange juice
00:02:32 You know what's in that?
00:02:33 Corn.
00:02:35 And you know what's in the maple syrup
00:02:37 You know what makes it taste so good?
00:02:39 Corn. When you're good
00:02:42 ...you know what makes the big,
00:02:45 Do you?
00:02:46 Corn.
00:02:48 Corn starch.
00:02:50 But Daddy's company didn't come up
00:02:58 Porsche or Porsche?
00:03:02 Three years in Germany, I should know.
00:03:05 The German word I really like is
00:03:08 All those syllables just for "pen."
00:03:14 Archer Daniels Midland.
00:03:18 Chances are, they've never
00:03:20 Just read the side of the package.
00:03:22 That's us. Now ADM
00:03:26 ...and turning it into an amino acid
00:03:30 If you're a stockholder...
00:03:31 ...all that matters is corn goes in one end
00:03:35 We have the largest lysine plant
00:03:38 - Hey, Kirk.
00:03:40 - When are we gonna hit some balls?
00:03:42 What do they pay Kirk?
00:03:46 I bet he gets a hundred grand.
00:03:47 He's just gonna sit behind that desk
00:03:51 Good morgen.
00:04:01 - Morning, Mark.
00:04:03 They have lysine results.
00:04:20 Great.
00:04:24 We adjusted the dextrose levels
00:04:28 I thought we had it surrounded this time.
00:04:34 We'll get it.
00:04:37 The things eat sugar
00:04:39 A warm place filled with sugar.
00:04:44 The fucking thing is supposed to
00:04:49 We're not gonna get anywhere
00:04:51 We've got over $150 million in
00:04:54 Do the Japanese have these problems?
00:04:57 I don't give a shit about the Japanese.
00:04:59 You've gotta get
00:05:01 ...to eat some dextrose
00:05:04 We're having problems with this virus.
00:05:06 I don't want to hear about the virus.
00:05:08 How much are we losing a month?
00:05:11 We are down like seven million per.
00:05:15 That's not gonna fly much longer.
00:05:18 You want to go in next month, tell my
00:05:22 I sure don't.
00:05:24 We're number 44 on the Fortune 500 list,
00:05:28 I don't want this turning us
00:05:31 Fix it.
00:05:35 Feed a chicken corn and it gets sick,
00:05:38 Pellagra disease. Niacin deficiency.
00:05:41 Gave them all sorts of problems:
00:05:44 Feed a chicken corn and lysine and
00:05:48 ...in six months instead of eight.
00:05:50 Mark?
00:05:53 Where are you?
00:05:57 Hey, you look great.
00:05:58 Oh.
00:06:01 They got the first wall of the stables
00:06:04 You know they're doing a new thing
00:06:07 They're now feeding lysine
00:06:11 Can you imagine that?
00:06:12 You're a jumbo shrimp
00:06:15 What do you think about that?
00:06:18 Weird, right?
00:06:19 There's an opening
00:06:21 They might need me to go down
00:06:24 What do you think about Mexico?
00:06:27 I thought we were getting horses.
00:06:30 Toro.
00:06:32 That's what Spanish bullfighters say.
00:06:34 But it's also what the Japanese call
00:06:37 Toro. Raw fish.
00:06:39 Who went first on that one?
00:06:42 I've been to Tokio.
00:06:45 ...in the vending machines right
00:06:49 Guys in suits buying used girl panties.
00:06:55 Yeah.
00:06:57 There's a Mr. Nakawara calling
00:07:00 He says you know him
00:07:04 Yeah, put him through.
00:07:05 It's the Japanese. There's this guy,
00:07:09 He was here a couple weeks ago.
00:07:11 I've been talking to him at work,
00:07:14 ...because of the time difference.
00:07:16 Mick, this guy knew everything.
00:07:21 He says to me, "Hey, you know that total
00:07:25 Before I ask him what he's talking about,
00:07:28 "Those months when ADM was losing
00:07:33 Mick, I couldn't believe it.
00:07:35 He goes on to tell me
00:07:38 ...is actually an employee of Ajinomoto,
00:07:44 They're injecting a virus into the dextrose
00:07:49 That's the problem.
00:07:50 I'm telling you, Mick, it's like Rising Sun.
00:07:53 It's like the Crichton novel.
00:07:55 I go, "Why are you talking to me?"
00:07:58 Yeah, I know what he says.
00:08:01 How much does he want?
00:08:03 Ten million dollars.
00:08:06 Ten million, but that gives you
00:08:10 ...the secret identity, and a new lysine bug
00:08:14 We have the plant up and running
00:08:17 How well do you know this guy?
00:08:21 I met him when he was here. We've
00:08:25 So not very well.
00:08:27 Very well? No, I wouldn't say that.
00:08:31 If you hear from him again,
00:08:35 Find out the least amount of money
00:08:37 I mean, if we can get a bug that's resistant
00:08:43 But keep this secret.
00:08:44 If there is a mole, I don't want him to know
00:08:48 Absolutely.
00:08:53 This would be a great Place
00:08:55 People would come from all over
00:08:59 Famous name-brand labels
00:09:01 ...at savings
00:09:04 Maybe a food court
00:09:07 The birds eat the bugs, the cars eat
00:09:11 - ...and new construction eats the rust.
00:09:14 Alexander says there's a bat
00:09:22 The FBI?
00:09:26 God, no.
00:09:28 I thought you wanted me to talk him down
00:09:33 We're not gonna sit back
00:09:36 I don't understand. We weren't gonna
00:09:39 Of course he's in on it.
00:09:43 I'll be sitting in with the FBI.
00:09:45 I already told you everything there is
00:09:48 I mean, what is the point?
00:09:49 Mark. Calm down. All right?
00:09:51 We don't like the idea of talking to the FBI
00:09:55 They're just gonna tape the guy's calls,
00:10:00 Questions?
00:10:04 Jesus.
00:10:06 Mark?
00:10:08 The FBI?
00:10:10 Why do you have to talk to the FBI?
00:10:12 Just... Just let them talk to the FBI.
00:10:15 Babe, I am really uncomfortable
00:10:18 There are some things
00:10:22 What does that mean, "things"?
00:10:24 It just...
00:10:28 Well, whatever you do, Corky,
00:10:33 ...just be honest with them
00:10:37 He said he wanted the money wired...
00:10:43 ...into a numbered account
00:10:46 ...and then also in the Caribbean.
00:10:52 Uh... And when did you last have contact
00:10:58 Two days ago.
00:11:01 But I think he's getting suspicious.
00:11:05 I've been dragging this thing along.
00:11:10 I mean, he could already
00:11:14 And these calls, they've been coming in
00:11:20 Well, I have an ADM line at my house.
00:11:25 They've been coming in
00:11:29 Well, I think we should start with...
00:11:32 ...putting a recording device
00:11:36 There's a sale at Bachrach's.
00:11:37 They have those Oscar de la Renta ties
00:11:40 What are they,
00:11:42 Diagonal bands of color hanging
00:11:46 They never put the nice Brioni ties
00:11:48 I should just get all my ties in Paris...
00:11:50 ...wear them once or twice
00:11:53 Nobody gets stopped at customs
00:11:55 I can help with that.
00:11:59 So...
00:12:01 ...that's it, then.
00:12:03 I can go?
00:12:06 Listen. Why don't...? Ahem.
00:12:11 I'd like to come out tomorrow,
00:12:14 Great. No problem.
00:12:18 - Thank you for your time.
00:12:44 You told the truth, Mark.
00:12:49 I never even had the chance.
00:12:53 They were watching me the whole time.
00:12:58 Cheviron was in the room.
00:13:10 Mick Andreas gets the vice president
00:13:14 He goes to Richard Nixon's house
00:13:17 It's not like his parents died
00:13:20 ...and he ended up in an orphanage.
00:13:22 Mick's dad wrote a check
00:13:24 It wound up in the account
00:13:27 Did he admit it? I don't think so.
00:13:29 Besides, ADM probably owns the FBI.
00:13:31 They probably wanted me
00:13:34 ...because they got it wired
00:13:37 Marty Allison called.
00:13:40 And Sid Hulse wants to know if you can
00:13:54 Great earrings, Ginger.
00:13:55 Bet you can see those shining
00:13:58 Mark got them abroad.
00:14:01 I can't remember where.
00:14:03 Nigeria?
00:14:05 Not funny, Sid.
00:14:07 You're telling me.
00:14:10 So, Sid, you're off tomorrow?
00:14:13 Where to?
00:14:15 West Coast swing.
00:14:17 Gotta get up there.
00:14:22 I'm not gonna see you for weeks?
00:14:23 Maybe longer if I get lost in the Ginza.
00:14:27 Have a great trip, Sid.
00:14:33 Just tell them everything.
00:14:35 We'll leave.
00:14:38 I don't like what this company
00:14:41 This is a chance
00:14:44 Remember, you said Mexico?
00:14:47 I may tell them at some point. But now,
00:14:53 Mark...
00:14:55 ...if you don't tell them, I will.
00:14:59 I can't.
00:15:02 Not now.
00:15:12 Hello. Please.
00:15:16 Agent Shepard, my wife, Ginger.
00:15:19 Ma'am. I know it's late.
00:15:22 I'll be out of your hair in a minute.
00:15:24 Great. Maybe a cup of coffee
00:15:28 Okay.
00:15:30 Just show me where the line
00:15:33 It's that one over there.
00:15:35 There should be a TV show about
00:15:38 He answers, he's talking to himself,
00:15:41 He's somehow divided into two
00:15:45 The show is about him trying
00:15:47 I'll give you a call tomorrow.
00:15:50 Great. Great. Okay.
00:15:53 - Good night.
00:15:54 Good night, Mrs. Whitacre.
00:15:56 Good night.
00:16:02 - Are you gonna say something, or am I?
00:16:08 Brian?
00:16:11 Hey, got a minute?
00:16:17 Um...
00:16:22 Can I talk to you in the car?
00:16:25 Sure.
00:16:39 We could go back inside if you want.
00:16:43 They might have it bugged.
00:16:46 Bugged?
00:16:49 What?
00:16:51 Who?
00:16:53 Us?
00:16:56 All right, there's things I know.
00:16:59 ...could I be prosecuted?
00:17:00 I cannot provide you with immunity,
00:17:03 ...about your involvement
00:17:06 ...would be discussed in a favorable light
00:17:13 Okay. Everything I told you yesterday
00:17:18 Except one thing. He never called me
00:17:22 Well, why did you tell me that he did?
00:17:25 Before I spoke with you yesterday,
00:17:29 ...to tell you that he called
00:17:33 Why?
00:17:36 What I'm about to tell you,
00:17:40 This Nakawara extortion thing is nothing
00:17:47 This involves price fixing
00:17:51 - Now...
00:17:59 Take some notes.
00:18:03 - Okay, go on.
00:18:07 I have been in several meetings with
00:18:11 ...over the last few months, where
00:18:15 ADM made me go to those meetings.
00:18:17 See, that's why they wanted me to lie.
00:18:19 Because the Nakawara calls came in
00:18:22 ...but so do the calls from the people
00:18:25 They don't want you to hear those.
00:18:27 They instructed me to tell you the
00:18:31 But I realized that once you guys started
00:18:34 ...you'd see I have all these calls
00:18:37 Right? That's what scared me.
00:18:40 So if you figure out the price-fixing thing,
00:18:44 Who told you to participate
00:18:52 I'm operating under the direction of
00:19:02 He seems like a real good guy.
00:19:04 I hope he doesn't mind me calling
00:19:08 I might even try Bri out.
00:19:09 This must be very different for him...
00:19:12 ...talking to a guy like me instead
00:19:16 I could see us fishing or whatever.
00:19:19 What a good listener.
00:19:27 Morning.
00:19:48 What happened last night?
00:19:50 What do you mean? Nothing.
00:19:53 ...recorder on the phone.
00:19:57 That's it?
00:19:58 Well, yeah.
00:20:01 He said when Nakawara calls...
00:20:03 ...I just flip a switch
00:20:10 Yeah?
00:20:12 - Oh. Put her through.
00:20:14 They have ways of checking up.
00:20:16 Sure thing.
00:20:18 Hi, hon.
00:20:20 What?
00:20:23 Slow down, honey, slow...
00:20:25 What?
00:20:36 A pound of bacon, a peanut
00:20:42 Anything that ADM has a hand in,
00:20:47 I mean, basically...
00:20:49 I mean, everyone in this country is a victim
00:20:53 ...by the time they finish breakfast.
00:20:56 You think the automobile
00:20:58 ...that gets 100 miles to the gallon?
00:21:00 You think the networks
00:21:03 ...before the season starts?
00:21:04 Paranoid is what people who are trying
00:21:07 ...call you to get you to drop your guard.
00:21:10 I read that in an in-flight magazine.
00:21:12 One potential problem I see moving ahead
00:21:17 He wants to be kept in on the loop
00:21:27 I want to meet Mark Whitacre.
00:21:30 You said they were only
00:21:35 - They are only monitoring one line.
00:21:38 That is absolutely not true.
00:21:42 Some woman named Regina
00:21:45 ...and said that both my lines are tapped.
00:21:48 Come on, Mark. The phone company
00:21:51 "Hello, we just wanted to let you know
00:21:56 Then why would Regina say that?
00:21:58 She didn't say it. You're saying it.
00:22:02 Call my wife.
00:22:04 - Call Regina.
00:22:07 I will. All right? I will.
00:22:10 Good.
00:22:18 I don't like wool on skin.
00:22:19 Not even that merino wool they have
00:22:23 Ginger likes it because it's formfitting,
00:22:26 And who wants that texture
00:22:28 Who'd make up someone named Regina?
00:22:40 FBI, Shepard.
00:22:41 Hello, Brian. It's Mark Cheviron at ADM.
00:22:44 Yeah, Mark.
00:22:45 I was talking to you guys a couple
00:22:49 ...at Mark Whitacre's house
00:22:52 ...and we had agreed
00:22:55 ...so that's all you did, right?
00:22:58 I really can't answer that.
00:23:02 Uh... Okay.
00:23:04 Thank you.
00:23:17 We have decided we will no longer be
00:23:22 I knew it. I knew it.
00:23:24 I told you and you wouldn't listen.
00:23:29 Evidently, they were lying to us too.
00:23:31 Well, evidently, you can't keep track
00:23:37 Yeah?
00:23:39 The call you were expecting, Mark?
00:23:41 Well, put him through.
00:23:43 It's a Swedish deal I'm working on.
00:23:46 - Mark Whitacre.
00:23:49 I told Shepard we're done working
00:23:52 Hi. So good to hear from you.
00:23:54 I want to bring my supervisor by
00:23:58 This weekend be okay?
00:24:00 Well, great.
00:24:02 Well... So Mr. Andreas is in my office
00:24:06 Okay.
00:24:08 - Okay.
00:24:09 What do I do if this Shepard guy calls?
00:24:12 You let me know about it,
00:24:14 But you're done talking to them.
00:24:18 Absolutely.
00:24:23 Okay, guys, I'm gonna go over the rules.
00:24:26 There's no running, no pushing,
00:24:30 And when you have fished
00:24:33 ...you go into the garage and get the cover
00:24:37 And I'm gonna go get your dad
00:24:40 ...and he's gonna come
00:24:42 - What was that, honey?
00:24:45 Honey, well, I'm going over it again.
00:24:51 Now, what is the scoop with all my phones
00:24:54 The only listening device
00:24:57 We had a trap-and-trace device on your
00:25:04 However,
00:25:06 ...and telling her
00:25:08 Well, my face is red on that one.
00:25:11 Shouldn't happen.
00:25:13 - Did you bring the expense reports?
00:25:17 Okay, this is Mexico City, Paris,
00:25:22 There was a meeting of the Corn Refiners
00:25:25 Mick and Terry went to that one.
00:25:27 They were doing the regular meeting
00:25:30 ...they'd get together with our competitors
00:25:34 Watch. In about six months,
00:25:38 ...is gonna be about 5 cents more.
00:25:40 Well, when's the next meeting?
00:25:41 January. Somewhere in Asia.
00:25:45 Mark, I gotta ask you.
00:25:49 We know you lied about the phone line,
00:25:52 But now you're telling us all this other stuff
00:25:59 Well, because things are going on
00:26:02 Now, I'm a biochemist.
00:26:06 And they pull me
00:26:08 ...and suddenly I find out all these things
00:26:11 If I want to grow with ADM,
00:26:15 And so suddenly, I'm lying.
00:26:18 I lie to you.
00:26:19 I mean, I feel real bad about that.
00:26:22 You look at yourself as wearing a white
00:26:25 Absolutely. Something like that.
00:26:27 When I was a kid,
00:26:30 I was maybe 6 years old and a
00:26:35 Guy owned amusement parks.
00:26:38 I caught a big break there, real big break.
00:26:42 Now I adopted two kids of my own.
00:26:48 Well, Mark...
00:26:50 ...do you think you'd be wiling
00:26:55 What does that mean?
00:26:56 Would you...
00:26:59 ...be willing to wear a wire?
00:27:01 We don't have any other sources
00:27:05 We need your help.
00:27:06 We'll be there with you
00:27:10 I'll use my beeper to signal you
00:27:14 When you hear this...
00:27:16 You know. Right?
00:27:18 ...you call me.
00:27:21 He's watched closely at work...
00:27:24 ...and there's reason to believe
00:27:28 He's under a great deal of pressure.
00:27:33 He tells us the truth one day...
00:27:35 ...and wakes up the next with two lives
00:27:39 Well, the good news is he decided
00:27:45 There are these butterflies
00:27:48 They're blue and orange and yellow
00:27:51 Just enough poison to stop a bird heart.
00:27:53 But the birds know this somehow,
00:27:57 But there are other ones, butterflies...
00:27:59 ...they're orange, blue and yellow too,
00:28:03 They're just flying around, looking
00:28:07 Hey, Mark.
00:28:09 - Hi, Brian.
00:28:19 Hey, wait up, dipshit.
00:28:25 We can't get a room.
00:28:31 Um...
00:28:34 I don't know, it just kind of seems,
00:28:38 It's the best I can do right now.
00:28:42 Okay.
00:28:44 Just...
00:28:47 Hold the microphone against
00:28:51 009...
00:28:53 ...454...
00:28:56 ...58822.
00:28:59 Thank you.
00:29:02 - No, no, put it on the receiver.
00:29:06 The receiver.
00:29:08 - I have it on the receiver.
00:29:14 I'm on hold.
00:29:19 Hello, Mr. Yamamoto.
00:29:23 Hi, sir. How are you?
00:29:27 No, I'm doing a lot of traveling this week,
00:29:30 How are sales?
00:29:33 Certainly we need to, in terms of our...
00:29:36 In terms of our big customers...
00:29:38 ...we definitely need to be thinking
00:29:42 It's better to maintain a price
00:29:45 ...and $1.05 for the United States,
00:29:50 Well, this is great, Mark.
00:29:54 Yeah.
00:29:55 - Thank you. Thank you so much.
00:29:59 I like an indoor pool. Year-round usage.
00:30:03 I like the steam off it in the winter.
00:30:06 Well, Marty...
00:30:10 ...when you started work at ADM,
00:30:13 I wanted 50 grand.
00:30:15 But I went and told Terry,
00:30:19 - Yeah.
00:30:22 You've always been really generous
00:30:25 Here's what I want you to do.
00:30:28 I want you to write down a name.
00:30:32 Okay. What's the name?
00:30:37 Nordkron Chemie.
00:30:40 What is that, like,
00:30:45 I like my hands. I think they're probably
00:30:48 I think that can be used to my advantage
00:30:51 If I can get people focused on my hands,
00:30:55 Eye contact is real important too.
00:30:57 Hey, I'm gonna check messages.
00:31:08 You have one message.
00:31:14 My phone died. I was on with the plant.
00:31:16 Is there a payphone,
00:31:19 - Across the lobby.
00:31:20 - Mark, this is important bioproduct stuff.
00:31:23 Hi, Dave. How's Holly doing?
00:31:25 She's good.
00:31:26 It's the plant.
00:31:27 FBI.
00:31:30 I told you, I'm out of town
00:31:33 The case is getting some attention
00:31:35 There's another agent working
00:31:37 I can't talk right now.
00:31:39 I have people waiting for me. Bye.
00:31:43 I'm here, Dave.
00:31:45 Being able to do two things at once
00:31:49 I try and do abdominal exercises...
00:31:51 ...even when I'm at a meeting.
00:31:53 Tensing. Holding.
00:31:55 Then releasing.
00:31:56 I'll floss in the shower
00:31:59 ...when you're just supposed
00:32:02 Those things can really add up
00:32:05 Hey, Kirk.
00:32:07 I'll be heading to Europe...
00:32:08 ...and I thought I could just hand deliver
00:32:12 Remind me. ABP deal?
00:32:14 It's a threonine microbe.
00:32:17 We want to get into the market.
00:32:20 We'll just overnight it.
00:32:21 I'm gonna see this Thorstensson guy,
00:32:29 The metric system never panned out.
00:32:31 ...with inches on one edge,
00:32:34 I pronounced it "centimeters" instead of
00:32:38 They let me walk around stupid.
00:32:41 ...though it's helpful
00:32:43 The liter bottle is the thing
00:32:46 ...because it's a nicer word,
00:32:49 Quart.
00:32:52 Mark, it's Marty calling again.
00:32:56 Message deleted.
00:33:10 FBI, Agent Shepard.
00:33:11 Brian, it's Mark.
00:33:13 Look, it's been hard for me
00:33:16 ...as I am out of the country
00:33:19 Listen, we need to know if you've had
00:33:22 I told you already
00:33:26 Well, what about the price fixing? Have
00:33:30 I think you guys hanging around
00:33:33 The word is we're doing everything
00:33:36 Mick said it's over. No more price fixing.
00:33:39 What? When did this happen,
00:33:43 Everything has changed. I got lysine
00:33:48 Mick brought me into his office,
00:33:51 He said, "Whitacre, from now on
00:33:54 Mark.
00:33:56 Look, Mark,
00:34:00 We're gonna investigate either way.
00:34:03 Either way?
00:34:05 We really need to get together.
00:34:07 It is a different approach there now.
00:34:10 Everything's changed.
00:34:13 My plane is boarding. I gotta go.
00:34:17 Ah!
00:34:28 - Everything okay?
00:34:31 Kids.
00:34:36 - Where were we?
00:34:40 And we should be discussing Ferraris.
00:34:45 You have Full federhaltertinte
00:34:49 Ow.
00:34:51 One of the Japanese guys
00:34:53 This lysine salesman is in a meeting...
00:34:55 ...with someone from ConAgra
00:34:58 And the client leans forward and says:
00:35:01 "I have the same tie as you,
00:35:05 And then he drops dead,
00:35:09 Alive and then dead.
00:35:12 Brain aneurysm.
00:35:14 Maybe everyone has a sentence like that,
00:35:17 "I have the same tie as you,
00:35:21 Dead. The last thing they'll ever say.
00:35:25 High-fructose corn syrup.
00:35:29 He said that Andreas called
00:35:32 He might be late.
00:35:34 If he doesn't show, the government
00:35:40 And here it comes.
00:35:47 Shepard.
00:35:48 I can't come to the hotel tonight.
00:35:52 Mark, this is the third time.
00:35:54 I gotta go. I have work to do.
00:35:57 - Mark, you can't keep canceling.
00:36:01 They just offered me
00:36:05 I'm not gonna lose my job
00:36:08 I have a family.
00:36:11 - But you told us...
00:36:15 Hey, Mick.
00:36:18 Mark, listen to me.
00:36:20 The only logical thing for you to do
00:36:25 What happens if I don't?
00:36:26 Then somebody else will,
00:36:31 The tapes don't say anything,
00:36:34 We have a whole new policy.
00:36:36 Fine, if that's what he said. Then I want
00:36:43 Okay, I never made any tapes.
00:36:45 I never made any because there's not
00:36:49 It's over, and they'd just be stupid tapes.
00:36:51 - Mark, come on.
00:36:53 You tell me how I can prove it to you,
00:37:39 Mick Andreas and his dad
00:37:42 They say we're in it together.
00:37:44 Team-building offsite meetings
00:37:48 I can't protect these guys
00:37:50 Hey, I tried.
00:37:53 I did my best for ADM.
00:37:58 Hey, how'd I do?
00:38:00 Mark, we have some problems.
00:38:02 Wait a minute. I was looking at the thing.
00:38:07 Mark, you don't know
00:38:11 Well, first of all,
00:38:13 Mark, you splattered the walls with ink.
00:38:16 Come on. Extortionists just don't leave
00:38:20 I know it's tough...
00:38:22 ...keeping it all bottled up inside,
00:38:26 But there's only one good choice for you.
00:38:30 There's something
00:38:33 ...but the only way to protect yourself
00:38:46 Okay.
00:38:49 Okay.
00:38:54 You realize...
00:38:58 ...that this can all be used against you
00:39:01 I'll have to write it all up,
00:39:04 We're going to find out what's going on,
00:39:07 You're not leaving this room
00:39:10 So before you answer
00:39:13 ...I want you to think about Ginger...
00:39:15 ...and your family, and your career.
00:39:20 What happened with Nakawara?
00:39:24 Is there a mole?
00:39:28 Well, yeah, I think there has definitely
00:39:41 - I made it up.
00:39:43 I had to.
00:39:45 Look, we've had problems with viruses
00:39:48 ...and we're way behind our projections.
00:39:50 Dwayne is thinking about shutting us down
00:39:54 It's all "Blame it on Whitacre."
00:39:57 We're talking about my job here.
00:40:00 I came all the way over from Europe,
00:40:05 Uh... Uh... What about the price fixing?
00:40:09 I mean, there's no new attitude, right?
00:40:11 It's been going on as recently
00:40:15 It's not just lysine.
00:40:18 A guy left the company because
00:40:22 The gluconate guy, he's out of a job.
00:40:24 I met with the guys from Ajinomoto
00:40:28 The whole point
00:40:32 You set the volume levels,
00:40:35 ...and then you figure out workable prices.
00:40:41 If there's anything else you want to add,
00:40:43 What else is there?
00:40:56 Seven-thirty a.m., March 17th...
00:40:59 ...1993.
00:41:01 I have parked the car. I am approaching
00:41:08 Entrance breached.
00:41:10 Terrance Wilson.
00:41:15 Did our friend from Japan
00:41:18 No, he wasn't in.
00:41:20 Well, I spoke with Mimoto
00:41:24 He says there will be no peace
00:41:26 ...until we bring production down
00:41:29 Well, in '92, we did exactly what we
00:41:34 Exactly. Now, no promise.
00:41:37 He says he wants to talk to you.
00:41:39 Yeah? Well, I'll be right there saying,
00:41:47 That was Terry Wilson talking
00:41:52 ...and price levels
00:41:55 ...Ajinomoto Corporation.
00:41:59 By the way, there was no discussión
00:42:01 I did that for illustration purposes only.
00:42:04 I repeat, no discussión with Mimoto.
00:42:06 Morning, Mark.
00:42:21 - Please, come in.
00:42:23 Good morning. Hello. Good morning.
00:42:28 Before we even deal
00:42:30 ...we have to agree
00:42:34 It's the only way this is gonna work.
00:42:36 Keep everybody on target.
00:42:41 Need to check your phones.
00:42:45 Excuse me, I need a comfort break.
00:42:58 Side two, tape one.
00:43:04 I've got well over two
00:43:07 I'm pretty much platinum
00:43:09 I get a letter from the CEO every year,
00:43:12 It's a form letter.
00:43:14 They probably walk in and he signs
00:43:20 Oh, it went great. I think we're gonna
00:43:27 Now what happens? Something you
00:43:32 ...and now it's in his hands, the cup,
00:43:34 Probably got it from his kids
00:43:38 I'll miss a few days or Alexander will
00:43:41 Where does the FBI weigh in on that
00:43:44 What does it say about exposure
00:43:47 Tape seven, side two. Chicago O'Hare.
00:43:51 Once again,
00:43:55 Representing Euro lysine,
00:44:00 That's a French company.
00:44:09 That's a big break right there.
00:44:13 There's no choices to be made,
00:44:15 You're an ant, you just eat it.
00:44:17 ...part of the worid where it works...
00:44:19 ...and the rest of the worid
00:44:22 It will not last.
00:44:23 - Terry, Alain, Philippe.
00:44:26 We obviously would play the game.
00:44:29 - But the Koreans and the Japanese...
00:44:33 Then it won't work.
00:44:36 Well, you make it work
00:44:40 Terry doesn't like me very much.
00:44:43 What causes that blotchiness?
00:44:45 It must mean something medical.
00:44:47 He'll have a stroke and someone will say,
00:44:51 If prices went up in Europe,
00:44:56 That's right. You made it happen.
00:44:59 It was our pleasure.
00:45:03 Mark, these are just the kind of tapes
00:45:06 And we're getting our marching orders
00:45:11 We need to improve the quality
00:45:23 Hey, Rusty.
00:45:26 Take a look at something.
00:45:32 What do you think?
00:45:34 That's a nice briefcase.
00:45:36 But wait.
00:45:39 There's more.
00:45:44 That...
00:45:46 ...is a Nagra SN.
00:45:48 Had the Bureau custom-make it for me.
00:45:51 Mark Whitacre, secret agent 0014.
00:45:56 Why 0014?
00:45:59 Because I'm twice as smart as 007.
00:46:05 Ah. Thank you again.
00:46:10 What happened to that girl
00:46:13 Didn't she move to California?
00:46:15 Oh, Tina. Yeah, she's getting married.
00:46:18 Ugh. My Tina's getting married?
00:46:21 She's getting married
00:46:23 Oh-ho-ho-ho.
00:46:26 Well, that won't last long.
00:46:30 She'll be back.
00:46:31 I just hope she doesn't get pregnant
00:46:35 She had a nice body. It'll ruin her tits.
00:46:38 When polar bears hunt, they crouch down
00:46:43 They keep one paw over their nose
00:46:46 ...because they've got black noses.
00:46:48 They'd blend in perfectly
00:46:50 So the question is, how do they know
00:46:55 From looking at other polar bears?
00:46:57 Do they see their reflections in the water,
00:47:02 That seems like a lot of thinking
00:47:07 Remember to pat them down
00:47:10 What?
00:47:11 Whenever we meet with the Japanese.
00:47:13 You're kidding, right?
00:47:16 - I didn't get any kind of memo on that.
00:47:20 They don't have the balls
00:47:22 When it's over, the board of directors
00:47:25 They're gonna see the position I was in.
00:47:29 That's the only conclusión
00:47:31 I'm the youngest división president
00:47:34 I speak a number of languages fluently.
00:47:49 Would you like some coffee or fruits?
00:47:55 No.
00:47:57 No.
00:47:58 Mark, no.
00:48:00 - No.
00:48:07 We already spend more than one year
00:48:12 We talked a little bit about it
00:48:14 ...but we need to come
00:48:18 - We have public shareholders.
00:48:20 You need to widen out a little.
00:48:22 We need to show them working
00:48:26 Now the question is:
00:48:27 If the market grows, who gets it?
00:48:32 If Kyowa Hakko, Miwon and
00:48:37 ...we can divide up the rest.
00:48:40 If we're gonna have any stability at all.
00:48:43 We need...
00:48:47 Well, what would you be willing to accept?
00:48:50 ADM has already eaten all the growth.
00:48:53 We have a lot more
00:48:56 We could be growing 20,000 tons.
00:49:01 I'm going in. We gotta shut this down.
00:49:03 No, wait. Hold on.
00:49:04 - I need your input.
00:49:06 ADM will be allocated its recent
00:49:10 They talk about Paris.
00:49:11 I can't understand.
00:49:13 We have a big board of directors.
00:49:15 They have a big board
00:49:18 And they're all suffering together.
00:49:21 Well, where's the agreement?
00:49:25 If there isn't an agreement,
00:49:28 You're getting bogged down
00:49:32 Look what happens right here. Okay?
00:49:36 See what he's doing?
00:49:38 Yeah, I've looked and I just see
00:49:42 I don't even see any numbers on that.
00:49:46 What more do you want?
00:49:48 ...dividing up the market, plain as day.
00:49:51 It could just be a proposal.
00:49:53 All the other companies weren't there.
00:49:56 I'm telling you. From the perspective of
00:50:01 We're having another meeting
00:50:05 We have to divide up the volumes
00:50:09 Europe again?
00:50:11 Europe is out.
00:50:12 There is a price-fixing investigation in
00:50:16 It's got everybody spooked,
00:50:19 We can't videotape in Japan.
00:50:22 Hawaii.
00:50:24 - Hawaii?
00:50:36 Oh!
00:51:08 Okay. So everybody just...
00:51:11 Goddamn it, Mark.
00:51:14 Yeah.
00:51:15 Can you call and get us a bigger room?
00:51:17 This is the only room they have.
00:51:21 I will. I will. Make yourselves at home,
00:51:25 Do you have a suite perhaps that's a bit
00:51:31 The Makuaha Room. Yes.
00:51:36 But it is, I see. I see.
00:51:40 Okay, so this is it.
00:51:45 Okay, then we'll make do. Thank you.
00:51:49 Looks like we are here to stay,
00:51:52 ...so let's settle in, and...
00:51:55 ...start.
00:51:57 Oh, no.
00:52:04 Well, I'd like to welcome
00:52:07 Let me just...
00:52:09 Indulge me for a second. I think you might
00:52:18 Thattaboy, Mark.
00:52:23 We have an old saying at ADM.
00:52:28 "It's better to have the elephants
00:52:32 ...than outside the tent pissing in."
00:52:35 Outside piss?
00:52:38 It's better to be part of the group.
00:52:40 What he's saying is,
00:52:43 The competitors are our friend.
00:52:45 It's important we have all the producers
00:52:49 I want to know why we have been
00:52:53 We need to be part of this.
00:52:56 - Yeah.
00:52:59 ...at agreed-upon levels?
00:53:02 Well, it would be our preference
00:53:07 And if we find out someone's
00:53:09 ...we'll just hire some Mafia figure
00:53:13 That's just a little bit of levity...
00:53:15 ...but the point is
00:53:19 ...ain't gonna work.
00:53:22 You are okay with that?
00:53:24 Yes. I am all right.
00:53:29 So, what are we saying?
00:53:35 Well, what,
00:53:39 Then we are ail...
00:53:43 - Agreed.
00:53:49 Agreement. You heard it.
00:53:52 - Congratulations.
00:53:54 Well done. You did it.
00:53:56 Christ. How about this guy Whitacre?
00:54:01 - What do you mean?
00:54:03 The guy's making 350 grand a year,
00:54:08 When does that happen?
00:54:12 Some woman somewhere with a kid he's
00:54:17 What's his story?
00:54:27 We wanted to show you this.
00:54:29 That's a picture of Mark Whitacre
00:54:32 We carry that with us all the time...
00:54:35 ...as a constant reminder
00:54:39 ...with a real family depending on him.
00:54:41 The only reason we have any
00:54:47 We want to know
00:54:49 ...if he loses his job...
00:54:51 ...will the government
00:54:54 Mark, are you an idiot?
00:54:58 Mick will be gone. Terry will be gone.
00:55:02 I am a scientist
00:55:05 I'm the only one qualified to run ADM.
00:55:07 Mark, that's completely illogical.
00:55:10 How can you stay there
00:55:13 Because they need me
00:55:15 First of all, I'm extremely valuable
00:55:19 And secondly, I did the right thing.
00:55:21 Okay? The board is gonna see that.
00:55:25 It's the FBI, right?
00:55:29 It's Brian Shepard putting ideas
00:55:32 I'm telling you, they will make me
00:55:37 So this is it, huh?
00:55:39 How's your family doing?
00:55:42 Good. They're gonna be at an amusement
00:55:45 Whatever happens tomorrow,
00:55:49 ...to get an attorney who's gonna
00:55:52 - You want me to get an attorney now?
00:55:55 First, the company lawyers
00:55:59 ...with a list of attorneys to pick from.
00:56:01 You've gotta understand,
00:56:05 They don't represent you.
00:56:06 Do not pick one of these attorneys.
00:56:11 You need to tell them that you're
00:56:15 It's perfectly reasonable
00:56:17 I think I know a lawyer in Decatur.
00:56:21 The town is too small.
00:56:22 I'm sure you've met lawyers in your
00:56:27 Definitely.
00:56:29 Now, Mark? Mark?
00:56:32 Once this starts,
00:56:34 They are going to know that somebody
00:56:39 And they're gonna do almost anything
00:56:42 But you guys still think I'm gonna be okay
00:56:46 I mean, you guys are gonna take
00:56:52 Well, I think it's important
00:56:56 ...what we talked about before,
00:57:01 ...is tell them...
00:57:05 - ...you're cooperating with the government.
00:57:07 But I'm just asking if you guys think
00:57:11 The corporate culture's
00:57:15 I should say so.
00:57:17 - Yeah.
00:57:20 - Right?
00:58:04 - Mark, you're making that up.
00:58:08 ...choked to death, 1947,
00:58:12 Fact. Fact.
00:58:14 Well, there you have it,
00:58:17 You know what the Ph.D. stands for,
00:58:21 Heh. Let me guess. Daniels was killed
00:58:30 A chicken got Archer.
00:58:33 ...our deals with Tyson Farms,
00:58:36 ...what's the body count?
00:58:38 Mr. Wilson, Mr. Whitacre,
00:58:42 - This is Special Agent Shepard.
00:58:45 - Mr. Whitacre, would you come with me?
00:58:48 - I have no idea what this is about.
00:58:51 - Could you come with us?
00:58:54 A lawyer? Terry.
00:58:56 I saved a guy once at a restaurant
00:58:59 He was choking and I got him
00:59:03 He sends me cards on holidays
00:59:06 Tells me what his kids are studying.
00:59:09 You can take first-aid courses
00:59:12 You got a reason for embarrassing my
00:59:16 This is a serious matter.
00:59:18 It involves an international investigation
00:59:22 We have seen you and your boss,
00:59:25 ...conspire with your competitors
00:59:27 We have seen you tell others to do it.
00:59:30 There will be indictments.
00:59:32 Search warrants have been issued.
00:59:34 And some people, people who you know
00:59:40 Look at that.
00:59:42 Look at that. Look at Terry and Bob.
00:59:46 Oh, I wish I could be a fly on that wall.
00:59:49 Oh, hey, I was good, right?
00:59:52 I actually felt scared.
00:59:54 Remember what we told you, all right?
00:59:56 Tell them you're that cooperating
00:59:59 - ...and do not take one of their lawyers.
01:00:02 What'd you say to your guy?
01:00:04 Nothing, I told him nothing. Slow down.
01:00:06 Me neither. I said nothing.
01:00:07 He said that he had price-fixing
01:00:10 Well, I bet they have the phones
01:00:14 I can't believe they would
01:00:17 Look, I get phone calls
01:00:19 I know, I know.
01:00:21 Oh, God.
01:00:23 We're going to the lawyers.
01:00:25 See? The phones.
01:00:27 They hit everybody.
01:00:29 Oh, fuck me.
01:00:30 No, they played me a tape of me.
01:00:33 Some meeting with the fucking Japanese.
01:00:36 - We're gonna go there.
01:00:38 - How the fuck did they get a tape?
01:00:42 When you factor in everything
01:00:45 ...this will be a 10-year thing
01:00:48 That's all this is ever gonna be.
01:00:54 - How's it going?
01:00:55 FBI.
01:00:58 Yeah, he's here.
01:01:05 This is James Mutchnik.
01:01:06 Just interviewed
01:01:09 Schmidt knew we were coming.
01:01:15 He says Whitacre told him.
01:01:18 Thanks.
01:01:19 - He sees you sitting in the window and...
01:01:23 Can I talk to you guys for a second?
01:01:30 That was amazing.
01:01:33 Oh, Terry was so scared,
01:01:36 - They were pissed.
01:01:38 They thought you guys
01:01:40 They're like, "You all right?"
01:01:43 - Did you make a tape?
01:01:46 Really good.
01:01:48 So it's over, then.
01:01:50 Mark...
01:01:52 ...who did you tell?
01:01:54 - What?
01:02:03 Well...
01:02:06 I had to tell my secretary.
01:02:08 Guys, I'm the head
01:02:12 She has to know where to get in touch
01:02:16 So all I said was,
01:02:19 I might be out of touch for a while."
01:02:22 That's it.
01:02:32 I'm pretty sure I've mentioned the name
01:02:36 ...in my división.
01:02:37 Kathy is a friend. She is a trusted ally.
01:02:43 I didn't want her to be scared.
01:02:45 Why would you do that, Mark?
01:02:48 Because I didn't want her to be scared.
01:02:53 - Guys, we can trust Kathy.
01:02:55 Don't jack us around, Mark.
01:03:01 Mm.
01:03:03 Kirk Schmidt. I mean, Schmidty...
01:03:06 Look, I was afraid that he wouldn't
01:03:10 That he'd clam up on account
01:03:12 You could have ruined
01:03:15 Has anything gone wrong?
01:03:18 Time out. Time out. Time out.
01:03:21 Mark, you know what you did,
01:03:26 - It was supposed to be a secret.
01:03:31 But is there anything else
01:03:35 No.
01:03:37 No, not that I can think of.
01:03:46 Remember...
01:03:47 ...tell them you're getting
01:03:50 I know about the lawyers, Brian!
01:04:38 Mark Whitacre, Aubrey Daniel.
01:04:41 Pleasure to meet you.
01:04:44 Okay.
01:04:45 - This is John Dowd, a colleague of mine.
01:04:49 Dwayne has filled us in
01:04:53 Aubrey prosecuted Lieutenant Calley
01:04:57 ...so this ought to be a cakewalk
01:05:00 We were hoping you'd have time
01:05:03 - Sure.
01:05:05 Dad and I want all the key people
01:05:08 ...that we're gonna be paying
01:05:11 Oh, great. Great.
01:05:13 Then... Then we'll let you fellas
01:05:17 Okay.
01:05:20 - How you holding up, Mark? Thanks.
01:05:29 - John, can I ask you something?
01:05:32 If I say something to you, are you allowed
01:06:04 Oh. Here we go.
01:06:17 I need to tell you I'm gonna
01:06:21 They have hundreds of tapes.
01:06:24 They know all about lysine.
01:06:27 And John here agrees with me
01:06:30 Oh. No question about it.
01:06:36 I want to say sorry
01:06:39 Sorry?
01:06:41 What's that?
01:06:44 It feels good to talk, to clear the air.
01:06:46 You get to be like a balloon
01:06:48 ...a balloon looking for a pin
01:06:52 You could get sick from keeping it inside
01:06:56 I didn't ask for that.
01:06:58 I have a friend from school
01:07:01 And he's always telling me
01:07:04 Like in The Firm.
01:07:06 They have to keep it to themselves or they
01:07:11 That's what they say: boxed.
01:07:13 So there wasn't a saboteur
01:07:16 Well, maybe there was.
01:07:19 Okay.
01:07:21 ADM steals technology
01:07:23 ...so I wouldn't put it past the Japanese
01:07:26 But once I told the FBI
01:07:29 ...they said I had very little choice
01:07:34 And you began making tapes.
01:07:37 There are over 200 tapes.
01:07:41 Ooh.
01:07:43 There are so many really nice people
01:07:47 Good neighbors, good listeners.
01:07:50 Like when they had floods
01:07:52 ...and people lose everything
01:07:55 ...someone always shows up with a warm
01:07:59 That's why Ginger and I bought that girl
01:08:04 That kind of thing
01:08:06 Jim here strikes me as that kind of guy.
01:08:08 He's the one-in-a-hundred guy who, when
01:08:12 ...you thank your lucky stars
01:08:14 ...illegal campaign contributions,
01:08:18 So then I'd come back.
01:08:20 ...Brian and Bob and l
01:08:23 You know, we'd work it.
01:08:27 Get everything we needed,
01:08:30 Then we went to DOJ,
01:08:32 ...and before you knew it, we were hitting
01:08:36 And for how long did you do this?
01:08:38 Ahh, ooh. Two and a half years.
01:08:43 Two and a half years.
01:08:46 You know, and I always thought...
01:08:48 ...there'd still be a place for me at ADM
01:08:52 I still have a lot of friends there.
01:08:54 A lot of friends.
01:08:58 Hey, Mark...
01:09:01 ...it's very important to your case you
01:09:05 These people you work with, your friends,
01:09:10 Bob and I are the only people
01:09:14 All right? And I want you to know
01:09:18 - Okay. Yeah.
01:09:20 Well, they kept coming to the house
01:09:24 Did you
01:09:27 What did you say? It's real important
01:09:31 Me? I told them I had no comment,
01:09:34 They had the story anyway.
01:09:39 Did you see my stipple portrait?
01:09:48 Oh, shit.
01:09:57 I'd appreciate any comment you
01:10:00 Just a quick comment.
01:10:03 I came out to tell you that I'm not allowed
01:10:08 At least any comment
01:10:11 ...on ADM's declining stock prices?
01:10:13 What's been the reaction
01:10:16 Well, I'm a person of interest in an
01:10:19 Do you believe you and your
01:10:22 Has the government made arrangements
01:10:28 We're still getting
01:10:31 And I know for a fact
01:10:34 ...have been telling people that he wasn't
01:10:39 We told Mark.
01:10:42 We told him
01:10:44 ...that he might be attacked...
01:10:46 ...that he wasn't gonna win
01:10:50 Well, he just mopes around here
01:10:53 ...watching the news,
01:10:57 Or he's calling someone from ADM,
01:11:03 Maybe you guys should get out of town
01:11:07 He's got to stop talking to people.
01:11:13 Well, the FBI never forced me
01:11:16 I don't owe Brian Shepard the truth.
01:11:17 I gave Brian Shepard two and a half years
01:11:22 And I'm the good guy in this,
01:11:25 Is Brian Shepard gonna lose his job
01:11:29 I've gone to the school on career day
01:11:32 ...and the career opportunities available.
01:11:35 Can Brian Shepard and Bob Herndon
01:11:38 I did enough for Brian Shepard.
01:11:42 Who has a plaque for
01:11:45 Where are your friends when it's dump
01:11:48 Where's the pot roast
01:12:22 You can see where he pasted it.
01:12:25 He's a fucking forger.
01:12:35 - Mark Whitacre.
01:12:40 Listen, I'm here in Mick Andreas's office
01:12:44 Does the name Lennart Thorstensson
01:12:50 What about Nordkron Chemie?
01:12:57 I'll have someone get back to you
01:13:00 Oh, sure. You do that.
01:13:06 - He's going to call us back.
01:13:23 My lawyer's telling me not to talk
01:13:27 ...there's something I've been wanting
01:13:30 Don't tell us anything.
01:13:32 You have a lawyer now
01:13:37 We are not asking you.
01:13:40 Okay, what if I just put out
01:13:43 And, you know, I'll talk about
01:13:48 ...and you guys can tell me if they're wrong
01:13:52 Okay, for instance...
01:13:55 ...what if...
01:13:58 ...a company gave an executive a car?
01:14:02 And instead of driving that to work...
01:14:04 ...he drove his personal car and he gave
01:14:09 Would that be a problem?
01:14:13 That's it?
01:14:14 That's the hypothetical?
01:14:18 That shouldn't be a problem.
01:14:21 Okay.
01:14:24 What if it was a corporate plane...
01:14:27 ...and the executive was using that
01:14:31 Oh. Basically the same thing.
01:14:33 Maybe some IRS issues, but...
01:14:37 Okay.
01:14:40 What if...
01:14:42 ...it was standard practice at ADM...
01:14:44 ...for executives to regularly accept
01:14:56 How much money
01:14:59 ...Mark?
01:15:01 Well, Brian, hypothetically, $500,000.
01:15:06 - How much?
01:15:09 Okay? I'm not the only one
01:15:13 Everybody's doing it.
01:15:16 When did this start, Mark?
01:15:19 December 1991.
01:15:26 You, uh, ahem...
01:15:29 How were you paid?
01:15:32 Paid by check.
01:15:33 A check is deposited
01:15:36 ...and always under the amount
01:15:41 And did any of these checks come in...
01:15:46 ...after we met?
01:15:53 Maybe.
01:15:59 Two-point-five million dollars,
01:16:03 ...while Mark Whitacre was there
01:16:06 Now, we have sworn testimony...
01:16:08 ...from Mr. Lennart Thorstensson
01:16:11 ...that he has never seen this contract,
01:16:17 Neither he nor his company
01:16:22 Now, it is clear to us
01:16:24 ...driven by his own boundless ambition
01:16:27 ...has attempted
01:16:30 ...in a price-fixing conspiracy
01:16:33 His cooperation with the government...
01:16:35 ...merely a smokescreen
01:16:40 We have additional information...
01:16:41 ...that we are willing to share
01:16:45 ...that the money has since been moved
01:16:48 ...with the full knowledge and complicity
01:16:53 What are they accusing
01:16:56 Are they saying I'm in cahoots
01:16:59 Paragraph 8
01:17:01 ...states that his actions
01:17:04 ...to the FBI
01:17:06 They're saying he stole two and a half
01:17:10 But how could we know what he
01:17:14 The question they're asking isn't
01:17:17 It's "Why didn't we know?"
01:17:18 No. The question is,
01:17:22 The investigation has shifted
01:17:25 Ha. Of course.
01:17:29 ...as soon as they find out
01:17:31 Who's counting money
01:17:35 ...for years, then find it in a few hours?
01:17:37 We gotta call Mark.
01:17:38 I don't want you to do that.
01:17:44 That's it?
01:17:47 We're done?
01:17:50 I thought the FBI never hung a witness
01:17:53 He's not a witness anymore.
01:17:56 I only kept a million and
01:17:59 He knows these things went on.
01:18:02 You can't bullshit these people.
01:18:05 We gotta go in with the whole story.
01:18:07 It gets bad for you if you tell them you'll
01:18:11 This is it.
01:18:14 I've found every bank statement,
01:18:18 Why would I hide anything
01:18:21 This is it.
01:18:38 I haven't been telling you guys the whole
01:18:43 - What?
01:18:46 No, no, I want to tell.
01:18:49 Mr. Whitacre's conduct constitutes
01:18:52 ...with the U.S. government.
01:18:54 He is no longer a cooperating witness.
01:18:58 This is outrageous.
01:19:01 Clearly, he made mistakes,
01:19:04 We are not here to discuss the case
01:19:06 Mr. Whitacre, my name is Ed Herbst...
01:19:09 ...and I am with the FBI's
01:19:12 This is Mary Spearing
01:19:14 ...from the Department
01:19:17 And we were wondering
01:19:20 ...when your criminal conduct
01:19:24 In early 1992...
01:19:28 ...I was taught how things are done
01:19:34 ...who showed me
01:19:37 ...and kickbacks
01:19:40 My client is voluntarily...
01:19:42 No, I'm aware that the fraud
01:19:46 ...was wrong and...
01:19:48 ...I accept responsibility.
01:19:50 How did you receive the money?
01:19:52 By check. They would deposit the check
01:19:56 They paid kickbacks in checks?
01:19:59 What company would pay kickbacks
01:20:01 Well, I don't remember the name
01:20:04 It was, like, Agra Consulting and Trading
01:20:08 You don't remember the company
01:20:11 It's hard to remember for me right now.
01:20:13 I have things going on in my life,
01:20:17 We're coming to you. We're cooperating.
01:20:21 I think this might help your memory.
01:20:29 Now, where did we get those?
01:20:32 These are ADM documents
01:20:37 Didn't these people see The Firm?
01:20:41 It's all there. Everything they did to me,
01:20:45 I'm not the one they should be mad at.
01:20:47 We can't see you anymore.
01:20:49 And if you call us and start to talk
01:20:55 You can talk to us about your feelings...
01:20:59 ...but that's it.
01:21:02 Mark, please understand.
01:21:06 It's not what we want.
01:21:10 You know, the thing of it is,
01:21:15 ...stems from my work with you guys.
01:21:18 And all this crap in the paper...
01:21:22 My kids are seeing this.
01:21:25 And it's all just dump on Mark Whitacre.
01:21:28 Remember, Mark, we told you
01:21:33 ...what would happen
01:21:36 You never told us
01:21:38 I don't see what that has to do
01:21:41 He worked for you
01:21:44 He risked his career, his home...
01:21:47 ...and now you just turn your back on him
01:21:53 Yes, Ginger.
01:21:54 The reason we came here today...
01:21:58 ...is because we're concerned
01:22:04 It's important you tell the people
01:22:09 One hundred percent.
01:22:11 You would have nothing without him,
01:22:16 He's being used by the government,
01:22:19 ...because it's easier to go after Mark
01:22:27 We took the kids one year
01:22:30 You get to be the white knight.
01:22:31 The kids get to ride a horse and joust
01:22:35 The white knight always wins. The forces
01:22:39 Someone plays a lute
01:22:43 It was 90 degrees,
01:22:46 ...I can't even remember
01:22:48 We were next in line and the mare
01:22:52 Ginger was eating Ye Olde Drumstick
01:22:56 And I remember this farmer saying
01:23:00 From the white knight
01:23:02 They had everyone turn
01:23:05 But even if you couldn't see,
01:23:08 How do you get that back?
01:23:10 How does that get to be fair?
01:23:13 Well, he just kept buying things.
01:23:16 We had eight cars.
01:23:19 Three of them we never even used.
01:23:24 And how else has he changed?
01:23:28 Well, I was always the one
01:23:31 - Mm-hm.
01:23:36 But that's changed too.
01:23:37 - There's one in Hong Kong.
01:23:41 Then there are the accounts
01:23:44 Right, right.
01:23:45 Other things. There's a lawyer in New
01:23:50 Have you told your attorney
01:23:52 No, I don't need to tell...
01:23:57 Mark, you need to tell your attorney
01:24:00 The assets were obtained legally.
01:24:04 Has anyone in your family ever
01:24:08 You know, manic depressive?
01:24:14 I have an aunt
01:24:17 Yeah?
01:24:19 In terms of my parents, I can't be sure.
01:24:21 My parents died in an automobile accident
01:24:25 I was adopted by a wealthy man in Ohio.
01:24:30 I caught a big break there, big break.
01:24:33 So my client's here to cooperate fully.
01:24:35 Agent D'Angelo,
01:24:39 This is your chance to put everything
01:24:42 This is your chance to redeem yourself.
01:24:44 But if you're not going to be completely
01:24:49 I understand that.
01:24:53 I just want to tell you I feel...
01:24:56 ...bad. I'm so sorry.
01:25:01 The last time we spoke,
01:25:04 And I said some things
01:25:09 I want to clear that up.
01:25:12 The first kickback was in 1992.
01:25:16 Mick knew all about it.
01:25:18 He told me there were gonna
01:25:21 ...on some of the contracts coming out
01:25:24 ...that were ADM contracts.
01:25:29 Was there anyone else involved?
01:25:33 So, Mr. Richter, we have...
01:25:36 ...money leaving your account
01:25:42 ...and here.
01:25:43 And it's going into Whitacre's account...
01:25:48 ...his wife Ginger's account...
01:25:51 ...and this is going
01:25:55 Like I said, those are loans.
01:25:58 Uh-huh.
01:26:00 He had me set up a company,
01:26:04 ...and just, like, issue
01:26:09 And there was a bank account
01:26:12 ...and so I would get a check
01:26:16 ...and most of it would go back to Mark.
01:26:19 Ahem. Okay, look.
01:26:23 We know you're looking out
01:26:27 ...but your story doesn't seem true.
01:26:32 You're right, it's not true.
01:26:35 All the money went to Mark.
01:26:37 When did it start?
01:26:39 Mark told me about this Nigerian thing
01:26:43 You know about these schemes
01:26:47 The 419 fraud?
01:26:50 You get a letter from some official
01:26:54 - They promise a percentage of the money.
01:26:58 You ever wonder who was dumb enough
01:27:05 This is really embarrassing.
01:27:08 So how much money would you say
01:27:20 Seven-point-seven million dollars.
01:27:25 But like I said, Mick knew all about that,
01:27:28 He endorsed that kind of behavior.
01:27:31 So not five, but seven-point-seven?
01:27:35 Seven-point-seven.
01:27:36 Jim, we all understand special
01:27:40 And these are cases we know
01:27:44 Forty-five counts of wire fraud...
01:27:47 ...and money laundering
01:27:50 So explain to us,
01:27:53 I'm not stupid. Mark committed a crime.
01:27:58 That's pretty indefensible.
01:28:00 But these guys at ADM, they stole
01:28:04 ...from innocent people
01:28:06 Mark showed that white guys in suits
01:28:09 ...that's not a meeting,
01:28:11 And not only did he tell you about it,
01:28:16 When agents go undercover for the FBI,
01:28:20 We hear this all the time.
01:28:24 I mean, here's Mark, a civilian,
01:28:29 But you guys just shove him in there.
01:28:31 You tell him to go for it without any
01:28:49 Ah! Baby.
01:28:52 Ginger.
01:29:02 They kidnapped me.
01:29:04 They put me in a car.
01:29:07 - They wouldn't let me out.
01:29:09 - My leg.
01:29:11 It's all cramped.
01:29:13 Who did this? Who took you?
01:29:15 It's obvious. Look at my jacket.
01:29:20 I was abducted.
01:29:22 I was thrown into the back
01:29:26 ...by two thugs...
01:29:29 ...and driven around
01:29:34 And basically, I was told...
01:29:36 ...you know, forget everything
01:29:39 ...and you can forget about bringing it up
01:29:45 Did the men identify themselves?
01:29:47 I think we know who sent them.
01:29:50 And they sawed the locks
01:29:54 Yeah, on each side, so I was trapped.
01:29:57 You were trapped.
01:30:01 No.
01:30:03 Where was the FBI in all of this?
01:30:06 Well, I think...
01:30:10 ...that the FBI did the same thing.
01:30:14 I mean, they locked my husband
01:30:17 ...and they drove our family around
01:30:20 - Three to five years?
01:30:23 In jail? But ADM's the bad guys.
01:30:27 Everywhere we go, it's the same story.
01:30:32 You gotta focus here.
01:30:34 You stole $9 million,
01:30:38 Maybe in your head, you're good.
01:30:40 To them, you're a guy who stole a lot
01:30:44 Ginger and I have been talking
01:30:47 ...against Brian Shepard
01:30:50 Oh, my God. For what, Mark?
01:30:53 He hit me with a briefcase.
01:30:58 Mark, come on.
01:31:01 And he told me to destroy tapes
01:31:05 Why would Brian Shepard do that?
01:31:07 Maybe the question you should be asking
01:31:12 All right. I'm telling you, okay?
01:31:15 Take the plea.
01:31:22 Thanks, Jim, but...
01:31:24 ...we're gonna go a different way.
01:31:29 Evelyn?
01:31:31 There's a reporter
01:31:34 Has some questions about Corky.
01:31:37 A reporter.
01:31:42 This is Evelyn Whitacre.
01:31:46 What do you mean, adopted?
01:31:48 Well, as his mother, I can assure you...
01:31:53 ...that my husband and l
01:31:57 ...and Mark was not adopted
01:32:06 Mark's been telling people that you
01:32:11 ...and he was adopted by rich people.
01:32:15 What do you make of that?
01:32:20 That's kind of weird.
01:32:23 I read this study in TIME magazine
01:32:27 There were people who never believed
01:32:30 ...into an Ivy League school.
01:32:32 ...who I met in the 8th grade.
01:32:34 And the study said that people
01:32:37 ...about people who were adopted,
01:32:40 So I made up this adoption story
01:32:43 When I got a job, one of my professors
01:32:47 ...I was this guy that had accomplished
01:32:51 So it was really other people
01:32:54 I admit it was wrong to start it,
01:32:57 Even the people at ADM.
01:32:59 My new lawyer sees that.
01:33:02 Tsk. This all goes back many years...
01:33:07 ...before most of us were born.
01:33:10 It's bigger than any of us...
01:33:13 ...and it's ongoing.
01:33:16 I know you're skeptical,
01:33:19 My client, Mark Whitacre,
01:33:24 Maybe I am just a personal-injury lawyer
01:33:30 ...but I tell you...
01:33:32 ...I know the identity
01:33:38 - The who?
01:33:42 And it's not who you're thinking.
01:33:44 Mark has tapes, tapes that the
01:33:49 Tapes that outline the actions
01:33:52 ...who hit Mark Whitacre
01:33:55 ...while Mark was cooperating
01:33:58 My client has a letter
01:34:01 ...outlining and confirming the cruelty
01:34:09 A letter from his psychiatrist clearly
01:34:17 "It is obvious that the FBI
01:34:21 ...in how they handled and treated you."
01:34:24 "Grand mistakes."
01:34:27 "When one discusses suicide,
01:34:30 When one discusses how they will do it,
01:34:34 I also feel that the FBI requiring you
01:34:37 ...against ADM was another blunder...
01:34:40 ...that forced you into a bipolar situation.
01:34:43 They should have known better
01:34:46 From a medical point of view, this is
01:34:52 From a legal view,
01:34:55 ...and what the terminology is.
01:34:58 You and your family have been through
01:35:02 They should know better."
01:35:05 That's Dr. Miller.
01:35:08 I read the letter, Mark.
01:35:11 The problem with the letter is...
01:35:15 ...it's a lie.
01:35:17 What are you talking about, Brian?
01:35:20 It's on his letterhead.
01:35:23 - What are you talking about?
01:35:28 In the letterhead? The area code 847?
01:35:33 This letter was written
01:35:36 That area code didn't exist then.
01:35:42 Okay, but they announced that the change
01:35:47 - People order their stationery early.
01:35:51 So I asked the phone company.
01:35:57 This is the press release
01:36:02 It's dated six days after your letter
01:36:07 Miller could not have known about it.
01:36:15 Ron Henkoff from Fortune called
01:36:18 If you talk to Henkoff...
01:36:24 Ron Henkoff from Fortune magazine...
01:36:29 ...verified the letter with Dr. Miller.
01:36:32 - I talked to Dr. Miller, Mark.
01:36:35 That's a violation
01:36:38 That's a total violation of my doctor-patient
01:36:43 Doctor-patient confidentiality
01:36:48 Then why did Fortune magazine
01:36:52 Well, why would Ron Henkoff,
01:36:55 ...put it in a cover story?
01:36:57 Stop it, Mark.
01:37:00 Henk... If you talk to Henkoff...
01:37:02 You need to stop doing this to yourself.
01:37:07 Why do you...? Why do you keep lying?
01:37:12 I don't know.
01:37:21 Well, I think maybe I should go back
01:37:29 Case 97-2001, United States
01:37:37 You have a right to make a statement,
01:37:45 Thank you.
01:37:49 Uh... I really appreciate the opportunity...
01:37:54 ...to get up here and say a few words.
01:38:01 Wow.
01:38:03 What a ride.
01:38:06 Um...
01:38:08 Been a long five years.
01:38:11 A lot of memories.
01:38:15 I just really want to apologize
01:38:19 ...and a lot of people who aren't
01:38:24 ...for my actions.
01:38:27 I'm on medication now...
01:38:30 ...so I'm seeing things
01:38:34 And I just really want to...
01:38:38 I realize I hurt a lot of people,
01:38:41 I'm so, so, so sorry. I greatly apologize...
01:38:44 ...and accept responsibility for my actions.
01:38:49 Thank you.
01:38:52 To observe that Mr. Whitacre is not the
01:38:59 He's well-educated...
01:39:01 ...has a loving wife and family,
01:39:05 It's not inconceivable that,
01:39:08 ...he could have been CEO
01:39:13 However, this court...
01:39:18 ...can find no clear connection between
01:39:22 ...and the 45 counts of criminal
01:39:26 ...just garden-variety greed.
01:39:28 It's very difficult to tell
01:39:33 I don't think what happened is fair...
01:39:35 ...when you look at me compared
01:39:39 If you go
01:39:42 ...you get maybe five years in prison.
01:39:44 Mick and Terry held up every grocery
01:39:50 So you tell me how it makes sense
01:39:54 You should consider that,
01:39:56 ...when reviewing this request
01:39:59 I'd also like to take this
01:40:01 ...to apologize on behalf of myself
01:40:05 ...to Special Agent Brian Shepard.
01:40:07 He never hit me with a briefcase
01:40:11 The idea to sue him
01:40:16 I shouldn't have listened.
01:40:20 While I was there at ADM, I lived so many
01:40:26 And I know today more who I am
01:40:31 I've completed three postgraduate
01:40:36 ...a J.D., which is, of course,
01:40:39 ...another advanced degree
01:40:43 I sleep better here in prison
01:40:46 My wife, Ginger, has forgiven me.
01:40:50 She actually believes
01:40:53 ...brought us closer together
01:40:57 And I hope you'll allow me
01:41:00 ...so that I can rejoin that life
01:41:03 ...two of whom are adopted.
01:41:05 Especially in light of the fact that
01:41:09 ...the United States government
01:41:13 ...over one billion dollars in price-fixing
01:41:17 So that's it. Thanks.
01:41:31 Good luck with the pardon, Mark.
01:41:33 Thanks, Bob. Thanks for helping me
01:41:37 I wish Brian could have come.
01:41:39 - Well, he's still pretty angry.
01:41:43 Well, tell him I'm real sorry.
01:41:46 Sure, Mark.
01:41:48 The irony is
01:41:50 ...I never would have stole the 11
01:41:54 It was my severance. What else
01:41:58 Work detail.
01:42:00 See you, Bob.
01:42:01 - Eleven and a half million?
01:42:04 I thought it was nine and a half.
01:42:06 - What did I say?
01:42:09 You do know that the people at ADM
01:42:13 That you planted the virus,
01:42:17 The 11 and a half
01:42:21 Mark, is it nine and a half
01:42:25 I don't know, Bob.
01:42:28 You tell me.