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Zizek
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What would be my... |
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spontaneous attitude |
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It's a very dark one. |
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The first thesis would have been |
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a kind of total vanity: |
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There is nothing, basically. |
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I mean it quite literally, |
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like... ultimately... |
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there are just some fragments, |
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some vanishing things. |
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If you look at the universe, |
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it's one big void. |
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But then how do things emerge? |
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Here, I feel a kind |
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with quantum physics, |
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where, you know, |
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is that universe is a void, |
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but a kind of a positively |
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And then particular things |
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when the balance of the void |
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And I like this idea |
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that the fact that it's |
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Things are out there. |
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It means something |
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that what we call creation |
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is a kind of a cosmic imbalance, |
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that things exist by mistake. |
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And I'm even ready |
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and to claim that the only way |
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is to assume the mistake |
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And we have a name for this. |
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Isn't love precisely this kind |
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I was always disgusted |
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of "I love the world," |
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I don't like the world. |
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I don't know how... |
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Basically, I'm somewhere |
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or "I'm indifferent towards it." |
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But the whole of reality, |
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It's stupid. It is out there. |
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Love, for me, |
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Love is not "I love you all." |
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Love means I pick out something, |
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and it's, again, |
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Even if this something |
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a fragile individual person... |
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I say "I love you |
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In this quite formal sense, |
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They inform me |
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Think about the strangeness |
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30, 40 years ago, |
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about what the future will be: |
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Communist, Fascist, |
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Today, nobody even |
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We all silently accept |
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On the other hand, |
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with cosmic catastrophes: |
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The whole life on Earth |
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because of some virus, |
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because of an asteroid |
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So the paradox is that |
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it's much easier to imagine |
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than a much more modest |
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which means that we should |
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but in what sense? |
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There are two false |
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One is this old notion |
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which we know will never |
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The other is the capitalist Utopia |
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in the sense of new |
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that you are not only allowed |
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but even solicited to realize. |
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The true Utopia is when |
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without a way to resolve it |
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within the coordinates |
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that out of the pure |
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you have to invent a new space. |
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Utopia is not kind of |
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Utopia is a matter |
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You are forced to imagine it |
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and this is what we need today. |
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I hope I wasn't too long. |
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I thank you very much |
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Another very short comment |
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You know why I applauded? |
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If you watch old |
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you will see a big difference |
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between a Fascist |
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The Fascist leader, |
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he just accepts it. |
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The Stalinist leader |
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The message being |
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I'm just your tool. We are all |
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And this was my side. |
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So we are on. Okay. |
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The worst thing is to play |
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that some intellectuals |
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You project a certain |
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cold thinker, whatever... |
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but then you signal, |
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"You know, but nonetheless, |
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I like small pleasures of life. |
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I'm human like you. |
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I'm not human. |
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It's not that I have a mask |
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and beneath, |
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I like chocolate cake, |
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which makes me human. |
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I'd rather prefer myself |
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not to offend others, |
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pretends... plays |
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You come in? |
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I hid it, of course. |
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It means "Welcome to welfare," |
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A good, honest guy. |
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I put everything here... |
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By everything, I mean... |
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Look even here it is. |
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Isn't it a crazy combination? |
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You have this, |
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The clothes are here. |
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But it's not only clothes. |
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It's also... |
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covers, sheets for the... |
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No, no. Everything is here. |
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Here. Isn't this nice, |
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Here are socks, underwear. |
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This is all my stuff, |
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and basically, |
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Newspapers, journals. |
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These are my books |
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Two copies of each one. |
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So this is strictly prohibited. |
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It looks bad. |
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I think they are lower there, |
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because this is |
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- Oh, this is... |
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I am narcissist here. |
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- Do you keep... |
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This should go elsewhere. |
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I'm sorry. I just... |
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so this is there. |
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Okay, if you need |
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Ah, yes, there are some of them here. |
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Let's see what's here, |
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because these are |
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These are some early |
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Ah, this is from |
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Yes. Mid-'80s, I started |
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For two years, |
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that I was the most influential. |
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But then new political |
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and I was too combative, |
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This was me. |
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This was my fame. |
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I worked like crazy |
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because I was writing |
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I never wanted to endanger, |
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which is why I was |
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in any kind of political career, |
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because it simply takes time. |
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Two days before the election, |
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there was a big round table |
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20 of them, |
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A right wing naive good guy, |
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made a fatal mistake, |
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which everybody remembered. |
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Not even a mistake, |
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Namely, as usual, |
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I talked quite a lot, |
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and then this guy wanted |
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and turned to me... |
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this was all live, big debate, |
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"Listen, we all know |
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that your I.Q. Is twice as all |
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but nonetheless, could you |
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But everybody remembered |
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You see? |
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Even they admit |
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I remember then, you know, |
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when the lights went off, |
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all other candidates started |
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like "Are you idiot? |
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Because then I jumped up |
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and almost got elected. |
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When I first visited the States, |
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I was shocked |
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"IDEOLOG Y" |
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Romanticism onwards. |
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That was the idea |
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Anglo-Saxon economy, |
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German metaphysics, |
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as the basic... |
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spiritual stances of Europe. |
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Sorry. That's it. |
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French politics, revolutionary: |
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Shit should disappear |
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Anglo-Saxon/American: |
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German metaphysic poetry, inspection: |
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You inspect, |
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So isn't it totally crazy |
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that in a vulgar, |
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you find certain differences |
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which you truly cannot account |
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but you have to evoke all this. |
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I mean, you claim, |
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at a conference |
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Then you go to the toilet, |
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You are up to your shit, |
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or how do you put it |
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Who believes what today? |
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I think this is |
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much more complex |
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The first myth to be |
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is the idea that we live |
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where nobody |
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and that there were some times, |
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where people still believed, |
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relied of some sort |
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and so on and so on. |
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I think it's today |
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and, as Fuller develops it |
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the ultimate form of belief |
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Why? Again, I'm going back |
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to that question |
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Look how it functions, |
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in its standard version, |
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You cannot find |
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without "A," |
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and "B," all of this |
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Like... I don't know. |
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To take an ironic example, |
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if somebody like Judith Butler |
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were to be asked "What is this?" |
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She would never have said, |
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She would have said |
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"If we accept |
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of language identifying |
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and taking all this into account, |
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then may we not"... |
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she likes to put it |
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"...reach the hypothesis that, |
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in the conditions |
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this can be said to be |
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So it's always this need |
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It goes even for love, |
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like nobody almost dares |
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It has to be, |
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"I love you," or some kind |
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But what's the problem here? |
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The problem is that... |
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why this fear? |
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Because I claim that, |
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when the ancients |
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they meant exactly the same. |
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All these distanciations |
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So it's we today who are afraid |
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that, if we were to put it |
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that it would mean too much. |
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We believe in it. |
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You know what I learned |
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- What? |
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- You know why Russian? |
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It's so disgusting, |
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Because all my friends... |
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took either French or German |
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Okay, my idea was, you know, |
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there was a code word |
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Isn't it good to play it safe? |
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Whoever wins, I will |
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There were three levels |
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The first in theory... |
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I mean, if you dealt with theory |
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The first level was, |
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This was the first level |
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The second level were, |
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"Are you allowed to publish books?" |
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The third level was, |
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"Are you allowed to get a job |
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And the fourth level is, |
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you are arrested |
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I was between the second and third. |
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My God, I was unemployed. |
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It was humiliating. |
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I was 27, and my parents |
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Then for two years, |
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it was that humiliating job |
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They knew that I am not |
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and that I will probably succeed. |
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So they were afraid |
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and succeed there. |
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This would then be bad for... |
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you know, another victim |
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to make a career in Slovenia. |
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So they want me |
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but there in Slovenia. |
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It was in a way |
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but they didn't know |
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they made it even easier |
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Give him 7. It's okay. |
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Oh, sorry. |
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Okay. "Gracias." |
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- This is it. |
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- Oh, my God! |
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I thought this would be |
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with Peron and... |
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not Peron, with Borges |
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Oh, yeah. No, it's super-modern. |
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Oh, my God, I didn't like |
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It's only an idiot coming. |
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- I really hate this. |
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I hate when... |
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I think that idiot... |
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recognized me, |
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because then they stare. |
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They descend on you? |
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Oh, my God. |
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- To whom do I put it to? |
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- Thank you. |
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Did you ever expect this, |
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No, but that's what |
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I cannot tell you |
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You don't love it |
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No, no, no, no, no. |
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I think people are evil. |
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This is horrible. |
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You see all these creeps, |
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This is horrible. |
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Who's that hysterical woman? |
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She's a fan, Slajov. |
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Yeah, but what is she doing here? |
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She should go up there |
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not annoying me here. |
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It was simply made |
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supposed to present |
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to a wide public, |
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I think for |
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of the French state TV. |
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What I appreciate |
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is this inversion... |
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between public image and private. |
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It's this total denigration... |
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disappearance of this |
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This for me is the idea |
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The central idea |
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is not these ideas determine you... |
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you are a Christian, |
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today liberal, I don't know. |
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But the idea is precisely |
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that ideological propositions |
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We cannot be reduced |
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There is a warm human being behind. |
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I think this is ideology |
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The most horrible |
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and really horrible, terrifying... |
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is to fully identify |
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The ultimate act is what we think |
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There is the true acting, |
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and usually, our truth |
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to that to which we are |
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is in our acts |
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more than importance |
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So again, my point |
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I like philosophy |
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not as this kind of... |
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look at the way he moves now, |
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I find this ridiculous. |
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He emphasizes |
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"One cannot say all the truth. |
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It's impossible materially." |
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This ridiculous emphasis. |
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I think it's pure fake, |
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as if he makes a deep point there. |
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He does not. |
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I think Lacan, |
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what interests me |
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The underlying logic, |
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His style is a total fake, I think. |
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I try to forget it. |
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Maybe it works as a strategy. |
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At a certain point, |
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First, you have to seduce people |
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with obscure statements, |
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but I hate |
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I'm a total |
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I believe in clear statements. |
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And I'm for Lacan because, again, |
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it's not that Lacan |
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in the sense that there is |
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The whole point of my work |
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is that you can translate Lacan |
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Well, I've just had enough of this. |
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Now, live from the CN8 Studios, |
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This is CN8 Nitebeat, |
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Jacques Lacan was |
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He makes Freud sound |
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Lacan's theory |
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is so complicated, |
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it makes my teeth hurt |
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Slavoj Zizek is a philosopher |
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at the University |
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I think I said this fairly close |
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who has written a book called |
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The book takes a look |
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from the viewpoint |
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or at least that's |
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Welcome, Mr. Zizek. |
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Did I say that... |
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Slavoj Zizek, but again, |
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It makes me paranoid |
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This is the most complicated book |
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Strange, because the goal |
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is, on the contrary, |
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to make Lacan back into someone |
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whom even your grandma |
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Let's say you have a good |
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It's Sunday afternoon. |
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The father would... |
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will tell you, "Listen, |
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if you are a small kid, of course... |
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"I don't care how you feel. |
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- You have to go"... |
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"Going Grandmother |
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- Okay. |
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Nothing is broken. |
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But let's say you have |
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the so-called tolerant |
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What he will tell you |
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"You know how much |
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but nonetheless, you should |
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if you really want to." |
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Now, every child |
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and they are not idiots... |
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know that this apparent |
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secretly contains an even more |
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"Not only you have |
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but you have to like it." |
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I'm beginning to like this book |
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That's one example |
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of how apparent tolerance, |
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can conceal a much stronger order. |
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So we should go back |
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to more like the dad that just says |
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Absolutely. It's more honest. |
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You went to the McDonald breakfast? |
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This is not so ridiculous. |
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Look what you get. |
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You know, you get this |
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Yeah, to make you happy. |
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Yeah, but this is for the kids. |
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I go there to make him happy. |
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He pretends to be happy there |
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But what the hell. |
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This means that, again, you know, |
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I love him, but my perspective |
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We go there, up and down, |
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No, it's pure desperate |
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- Right. |
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without getting |
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and this is easy, |
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and shuts up for 20 minutes |
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- What does he get nervous about? |
| 00:27:52 |
Okay, this will go. |
| 00:27:58 |
He's perplexed, as you can see. |
| 00:28:10 |
Now he's narcissistically amused. |
| 00:28:17 |
It's just to keep him calm, |
| 00:28:21 |
so it's eating, it's this, |
| 00:28:24 |
Or at least negotiating. |
| 00:28:26 |
Yesterday, he was building |
| 00:28:28 |
He wasn't satisfied with them, |
| 00:28:30 |
but then he gave me the role |
| 00:28:32 |
of just collecting a certain type |
| 00:28:35 |
I start to shoot at the animals, |
| 00:28:38 |
then... I love this one, |
| 00:28:41 |
You know, this one, |
| 00:28:42 |
I don't know where, |
| 00:28:44 |
You can open it, you see? |
| 00:28:46 |
And put soldiers in |
| 00:28:47 |
so that then he attacks me |
| 00:28:51 |
He destroyed this castle |
| 00:28:54 |
This was his original, |
| 00:28:57 |
but destruction is very precise. |
| 00:28:59 |
It's incredible how you think |
| 00:29:02 |
But he's the big wise guy. |
| 00:29:04 |
He observes. |
| 00:29:06 |
Here, he's very profane. |
| 00:29:09 |
He wanted to have a woman |
| 00:29:13 |
Then he said, |
| 00:29:16 |
Why not have two girls?" |
| 00:29:18 |
This is the two girls talking. |
| 00:29:20 |
You see, lesbian, progressive, |
| 00:29:23 |
Two lesbians, and... |
| 00:29:27 |
but I like this one. |
| 00:29:29 |
Isn't this a beautiful one? |
| 00:29:30 |
I bought it in Greece. |
| 00:29:31 |
A kind of a nice old Roman. |
| 00:29:44 |
Over. Let's show them all, huh? |
| 00:30:02 |
Okay, philosophy. |
| 00:30:05 |
This, I can do it, |
| 00:30:07 |
at least traditionally, |
| 00:30:18 |
Philosophy |
| 00:30:20 |
The duty of philosophy |
| 00:30:23 |
but to redefine problems, |
| 00:30:26 |
to show how what we experience |
| 00:30:29 |
is a false problem. |
| 00:30:30 |
If what we experience |
| 00:30:33 |
is a true problem, |
| 00:30:34 |
then you don't need philosophy. |
| 00:30:35 |
For example, let's say |
| 00:30:37 |
that now there would be |
| 00:30:40 |
coming from out there in space, |
| 00:30:42 |
so not in any way mediated |
| 00:30:44 |
and it would threaten all of us. |
| 00:30:47 |
We don't need, basically, |
| 00:30:50 |
We simply need good science |
| 00:30:53 |
We would desperately |
| 00:30:55 |
to find the solution, |
| 00:30:58 |
We don't need philosophy there, |
| 00:30:59 |
because the threat |
| 00:31:02 |
You cannot play |
| 00:31:05 |
and say "No, this is not the"... |
| 00:31:06 |
You know what I mean. |
| 00:31:08 |
It's simply our life would be... |
| 00:31:09 |
or okay, the more vulgar, even, |
| 00:31:11 |
simpler science fiction |
| 00:31:14 |
It's kind of "Armageddon" |
| 00:31:17 |
No, "Deep lmpact." |
| 00:31:18 |
A big comet threatening |
| 00:31:21 |
You don't need philosophy here. |
| 00:31:22 |
You need... I don't know. |
| 00:31:24 |
To be a little bit naive, |
| 00:31:26 |
Strong atomic bombs |
| 00:31:29 |
I think it's maybe too utopian. |
| 00:31:31 |
But you know what I mean. |
| 00:31:32 |
I mean the threat is there, |
| 00:31:34 |
In such a situation, |
| 00:31:37 |
I don't think that philosophers |
| 00:31:41 |
but I think this was |
| 00:31:43 |
not in this common sense |
| 00:31:44 |
that philosophers |
| 00:31:47 |
What is philosophy? |
| 00:31:48 |
Philosophy is not |
| 00:31:51 |
some crazy exercise |
| 00:31:54 |
and then you can adopt |
| 00:31:57 |
We, through scientists, |
| 00:31:58 |
are dealing with actual, |
| 00:32:02 |
Philosophers just ask stupid metaphysical |
| 00:32:05 |
play with absolute truths, |
| 00:32:07 |
which we all know |
| 00:32:09 |
No, I think philosophy's |
| 00:32:11 |
Philosophy asks |
| 00:32:13 |
the true philosophy. |
| 00:32:15 |
How does a philosopher approach |
| 00:32:18 |
It's not "Are we free or not?" |
| 00:32:20 |
"Is there God or not?" |
| 00:32:22 |
It asks a simple question, |
| 00:32:24 |
which will be called |
| 00:32:27 |
What does it mean to be free? |
| 00:32:29 |
So this is what philosophy |
| 00:32:32 |
It just asks, when we |
| 00:32:37 |
when we do certain acts, |
| 00:32:40 |
what is the implicit |
| 00:32:44 |
It doesn't ask these |
| 00:32:47 |
"Is there truth?" |
| 00:32:48 |
No. The question is, |
| 00:32:49 |
"What do you mean |
| 00:32:53 |
So you can see, it's a very |
| 00:32:56 |
Philosophers are not the madmen |
| 00:32:58 |
who search for some eternal truth. |
| 00:33:32 |
What we encounter here, I think, |
| 00:33:34 |
is precisely Lacan's reversal |
| 00:33:38 |
of the famous Dostoyevsky model, |
| 00:33:40 |
"If God doesn't exist, |
| 00:33:43 |
If God doesn't exist, |
| 00:33:47 |
How? On the one hand, |
| 00:33:49 |
again, you are allowed |
| 00:33:52 |
to have a full life |
| 00:33:54 |
but in order, precisely, |
| 00:33:57 |
you should avoid |
| 00:33:59 |
So at the end, |
| 00:34:02 |
You cannot eat fat, |
| 00:34:03 |
you cannot have nothing |
| 00:34:06 |
So today's hedonism combines |
| 00:34:10 |
It is no longer the old notion |
| 00:34:12 |
of the right measure |
| 00:34:16 |
Like sex, yes, |
| 00:34:19 |
Proper measure. |
| 00:34:20 |
No, it's something |
| 00:34:22 |
It's a kind of immediate |
| 00:34:24 |
of the two extremes, |
| 00:34:26 |
like... as if action |
| 00:34:31 |
The very thing |
| 00:34:34 |
should already be |
| 00:34:37 |
the medicine. |
| 00:34:39 |
The ultimate example |
| 00:34:40 |
I encountered recently |
| 00:34:42 |
I don't know if you can buy it |
| 00:34:45 |
is chocolate laxative. |
| 00:34:47 |
And there it says |
| 00:34:49 |
"Do you have still constipation? |
| 00:34:51 |
Eat more of this chocolate." |
| 00:34:54 |
The thing is already |
| 00:34:58 |
And the negative proof |
| 00:35:00 |
of the calamity |
| 00:35:02 |
is the fact that today, |
| 00:35:04 |
the true unconstrained |
| 00:35:06 |
in all its main forms... |
| 00:35:08 |
drugs, free sex, smoking... |
| 00:35:10 |
is emerging as the main danger. |
| 00:36:00 |
The traditional notion |
| 00:36:03 |
is that, because of some |
| 00:36:05 |
you internalized, |
| 00:36:08 |
with paternal or other |
| 00:36:11 |
you cannot set yourself |
| 00:36:15 |
Pleasure is not accessible for you. |
| 00:36:17 |
It is accessible to you |
| 00:36:20 |
of feeling guilty and so on. |
| 00:36:22 |
So, then, the idea is, |
| 00:36:24 |
psychoanalysis allows you |
| 00:36:25 |
to suspend, overcome |
| 00:36:29 |
so that it enables you |
| 00:36:32 |
The problem today |
| 00:36:33 |
is that the commandment |
| 00:36:38 |
enjoy in different ways. |
| 00:36:39 |
It can be sex and enjoyment, |
| 00:36:42 |
consumption, commodity enjoyment, |
| 00:36:44 |
up to spiritual enjoyment, |
| 00:36:47 |
And I think |
| 00:36:50 |
is not how to get rid |
| 00:36:53 |
and to be able |
| 00:36:56 |
The problem is how to get rid |
| 00:37:00 |
Organizations, |
| 00:37:01 |
such as the New York |
| 00:37:04 |
have helped gain |
| 00:37:06 |
for theories considered radical |
| 00:37:08 |
when first advanced |
| 00:37:10 |
by Dr. Sigmund Freud. |
| 00:37:14 |
The relationship |
| 00:37:17 |
and disturbed adult behavior |
| 00:37:18 |
has been clearly traced |
| 00:37:20 |
as Dr. Rene Spitz of New York. |
| 00:37:22 |
Distressing experiences |
| 00:37:26 |
may set up patterns |
| 00:37:28 |
which in later life |
| 00:37:32 |
Such conflicts lead to the same |
| 00:37:38 |
which was felt as a child. |
| 00:37:40 |
When such conflicts |
| 00:37:43 |
preventing him |
| 00:37:47 |
he is said to have a neurosis. |
| 00:37:50 |
Let us see |
| 00:37:57 |
My eternal fear |
| 00:37:59 |
is that if, |
| 00:38:01 |
I stopped talking, |
| 00:38:02 |
you know, the whole |
| 00:38:06 |
would disintegrate. |
| 00:38:07 |
People would think |
| 00:38:09 |
and nothing there. |
| 00:38:10 |
This is my fear, |
| 00:38:12 |
as if I am nothing |
| 00:38:15 |
to be somebody, |
| 00:38:17 |
and has to be hyperactive |
| 00:38:19 |
just to fascinate people enough |
| 00:38:24 |
so that they don't notice |
| 00:38:33 |
Well? |
| 00:38:36 |
- Okay. You also, you also. |
| 00:38:39 |
One of the big reproaches |
| 00:38:41 |
is that it's only a theory |
| 00:38:45 |
of individual pathological |
| 00:38:48 |
and that applying psychoanalysis |
| 00:38:51 |
to other cultural |
| 00:38:54 |
is theoretically illegitimate. |
| 00:38:59 |
It asks in what way |
| 00:39:03 |
have to relate |
| 00:39:06 |
not just in the sense |
| 00:39:08 |
but in the sense |
| 00:39:12 |
to exist as a person. |
| 00:39:14 |
You are, under quotation marks, |
| 00:39:17 |
normal individual person |
| 00:39:19 |
only being able to relate |
| 00:39:27 |
What is to be interpreted |
| 00:39:30 |
is that everything |
| 00:39:32 |
That is to say |
| 00:39:33 |
when Freud says, |
| 00:39:36 |
civilization and its discontent, |
| 00:39:38 |
or more literally, |
| 00:39:42 |
he means that it's not just |
| 00:39:46 |
we socialize ourself normally. |
| 00:39:47 |
Some idiots didn't make it. |
| 00:39:50 |
Oh, they have to be normalized. |
| 00:39:51 |
Culture as such, |
| 00:39:53 |
in order to establish |
| 00:39:57 |
what appears as normal |
| 00:40:01 |
involves a whole series |
| 00:40:03 |
of pathological cuts, |
| 00:40:06 |
There is, again, |
| 00:40:10 |
uneasiness: |
| 00:40:11 |
We are out of joint, |
| 00:40:13 |
in culture as such, |
| 00:40:15 |
which means, again, |
| 00:40:17 |
that there is no normal culture. |
| 00:40:20 |
Culture as such |
| 00:41:12 |
When people ask me |
| 00:41:14 |
why do I combine |
| 00:41:16 |
my first answer is, |
| 00:41:19 |
I think, for example, |
| 00:41:20 |
that it's only through |
| 00:41:22 |
the strict psychoanalytic |
| 00:41:26 |
that we can really grasp |
| 00:41:29 |
with his notion |
| 00:41:32 |
It's, I think, precisely |
| 00:41:35 |
like, again, fantasy... |
| 00:41:38 |
fantasy in the strict |
| 00:41:41 |
or excess "plus de joie," |
| 00:41:44 |
and so on and so on. |
| 00:41:45 |
The real... |
| 00:41:47 |
that we can understand |
| 00:41:51 |
like new fundamentalist |
| 00:41:55 |
like the way our so-called |
| 00:41:59 |
are functioning. |
| 00:42:00 |
Again, here, |
| 00:42:03 |
especially the way |
| 00:42:05 |
it was conceptualized |
| 00:42:07 |
The psychoanalytic notion |
| 00:42:09 |
as injunction to enjoy |
| 00:42:13 |
not as a properly |
| 00:42:15 |
is of great help. |
| 00:42:17 |
So again, I think |
| 00:42:20 |
in his Freudian theory |
| 00:42:23 |
in its traditional configuration, |
| 00:42:26 |
was appropriate to explain |
| 00:42:31 |
which relied to some kind |
| 00:42:37 |
of sexual control, |
| 00:42:39 |
then Lacan is perfect to explain |
| 00:42:43 |
the paradoxes of permissive |
| 00:43:54 |
When did you have the last meal... |
| 00:43:56 |
breakfast... or down there? |
| 00:43:58 |
Down there. |
| 00:44:00 |
No, no, I mean, one, |
| 00:44:02 |
we should maybe go down there. |
| 00:44:04 |
Or do you know any... |
| 00:44:05 |
At the place |
| 00:44:08 |
they do have good menus, |
| 00:44:10 |
like very nice ones, |
| 00:44:13 |
- They are not bad. |
| 00:44:15 |
Sorry? |
| 00:44:16 |
Degenerate. |
| 00:44:18 |
You'll turn into monkeys. |
| 00:44:20 |
There is a table free here |
| 00:44:22 |
if you want to be |
| 00:44:24 |
Aqua Congas. |
| 00:44:26 |
- Aqua Congas? |
| 00:44:28 |
Why shouldn't I order? |
| 00:44:29 |
Could you put it there? |
| 00:44:30 |
No, I mean, where to put it. |
| 00:44:32 |
- You want to show it? |
| 00:44:34 |
Why do you want to... |
| 00:44:35 |
Why did you say it was |
| 00:44:38 |
that so many people came? |
| 00:44:39 |
No, in the simple sense |
| 00:44:41 |
that I have this terrible feeling |
| 00:44:44 |
that they expect something |
| 00:44:46 |
and I wonder what. |
| 00:44:48 |
Many leftists expect |
| 00:44:51 |
I will teach them what to do. |
| 00:44:53 |
Shit, what do I know? |
| 00:44:55 |
Some people expect... |
| 00:44:56 |
You feel like that's what |
| 00:44:59 |
- Specifically? |
| 00:45:00 |
It's a simple |
| 00:45:02 |
Wait a minute. 2,000 people... |
| 00:45:05 |
although I think |
| 00:45:06 |
whatever, thousand people |
| 00:45:09 |
the same interest in Lacan |
| 00:45:13 |
- Can I ask you a simple question? |
| 00:45:16 |
If you were to have a daughter, |
| 00:45:18 |
would you allow this guy |
| 00:45:21 |
Be honest. |
| 00:45:26 |
I hate the way I appear. |
| 00:45:28 |
In some documents, |
| 00:45:30 |
It's really as a kind |
| 00:45:32 |
that I appear, you know. |
| 00:45:33 |
You think they were expecting |
| 00:45:36 |
just a sort of political advisor? |
| 00:45:38 |
No, the problem is, |
| 00:45:41 |
- I feel it as if it's a fake. |
| 00:45:43 |
Not in the sense |
| 00:45:46 |
that I don't mean it, |
| 00:45:47 |
but my heart is not in it. |
| 00:45:49 |
The book that I really |
| 00:45:52 |
was the one on Hegel... |
| 00:45:54 |
- "Ticklish Subjects." |
| 00:45:56 |
And that part of the message |
| 00:45:59 |
You can immediately see also |
| 00:46:02 |
For example, of my last books, |
| 00:46:04 |
the one that I really loved, |
| 00:46:07 |
That one is doing |
| 00:46:10 |
But that's what I love. |
| 00:46:12 |
No, we didn't yet, no? |
| 00:46:14 |
I'll tell you... |
| 00:46:16 |
Is this just drinks? |
| 00:46:19 |
First you should look here, |
| 00:46:20 |
You have calarinas, |
| 00:46:24 |
ensalada césar. |
| 00:46:35 |
This is just for people |
| 00:46:37 |
and hopefully to get out. |
| 00:46:38 |
So that is why you have it? |
| 00:46:40 |
So when people open the door, |
| 00:46:41 |
Yeah, there is a small hope |
| 00:46:45 |
That's the only fun. |
| 00:46:46 |
Has it ever worked? |
| 00:46:48 |
- Yeah. |
| 00:46:49 |
As a matter of fact, yeah. |
| 00:46:50 |
Some people |
| 00:46:52 |
My big worry is not to be ignored, |
| 00:46:56 |
but to be accepted. |
| 00:46:58 |
When I appear to be sarcastic, |
| 00:47:00 |
the point is not |
| 00:47:03 |
What is not to be |
| 00:47:04 |
is the very form of sarcasm. |
| 00:47:06 |
It's the form of the joke |
| 00:47:08 |
which masks the effect |
| 00:47:10 |
But people still have this idea |
| 00:47:12 |
that this guy did some big crimes. |
| 00:47:15 |
No. |
| 00:47:16 |
Of course it's not |
| 00:47:18 |
that I'm simply a Stalinist. |
| 00:47:20 |
It would be crazy, |
| 00:47:22 |
But... |
| 00:47:24 |
obviously, there is |
| 00:47:29 |
that it's not simply a joke. |
| 00:47:32 |
When I say the only chance |
| 00:47:33 |
that the left appropriate fascism, |
| 00:47:36 |
it's not a cheap joke. |
| 00:47:37 |
The point is to avoid the trap |
| 00:47:41 |
of the standard |
| 00:47:43 |
Freedom versus |
| 00:47:45 |
discipline, and so on, |
| 00:47:46 |
to rehabilitate |
| 00:47:49 |
collective order, subordination, |
| 00:47:52 |
I don't think |
| 00:48:06 |
Often, friends tell me, |
| 00:48:08 |
"But why do you provoke |
| 00:48:11 |
Why don't you simply |
| 00:48:13 |
that, of course, |
| 00:48:16 |
I tell them, |
| 00:48:18 |
as an abstract theoretical"... |
| 00:48:21 |
not even theoretical... |
| 00:48:22 |
intellectual, whatever, statement. |
| 00:48:24 |
But it doesn't work like that. |
| 00:48:26 |
For example, |
| 00:48:28 |
my God, I've probably |
| 00:48:32 |
about its most horrible |
| 00:48:35 |
than most of the people |
| 00:48:38 |
And that's my wager here, |
| 00:48:39 |
that sorry, the only way |
| 00:48:42 |
If you say, "Of course |
| 00:48:45 |
There are just some attitudes |
| 00:48:48 |
which were traditional |
| 00:48:50 |
but fascism appropriated them," |
| 00:48:53 |
I think it doesn't have |
| 00:48:55 |
the desired precise |
| 00:48:57 |
It enables the liberal consensus |
| 00:49:02 |
You must say it |
| 00:49:47 |
One hour be enough, |
| 00:50:18 |
These are, of course, again, |
| 00:50:21 |
I stole two of them today. |
| 00:50:23 |
I went to wash my hair, |
| 00:50:25 |
and then I was |
| 00:50:27 |
and then the woman hairdresser |
| 00:50:30 |
and told me, "Why don't I |
| 00:50:33 |
I enjoyed it, |
| 00:50:35 |
as if I paid for masturbation. |
| 00:50:38 |
- Masturbating is so obscene. |
| 00:50:42 |
But it was relaxing. It is nice. |
| 00:50:44 |
- Really? |
| 00:50:48 |
My God, where are you? |
| 00:50:50 |
This reminds me of socialism, |
| 00:50:52 |
carrying water |
| 00:51:28 |
Really? |
| 00:51:30 |
Yeah, because they were |
| 00:51:31 |
You see? We were not late. |
| 00:51:32 |
I realize it, |
| 00:51:34 |
But they wait for us, |
| 00:51:36 |
Yeah, they didn't |
| 00:51:39 |
They were waiting for us. |
| 00:51:42 |
Let's start as soon as possible. |
| 00:51:44 |
Let's go in. |
| 00:51:52 |
The majority of academics |
| 00:51:53 |
who are obsessed |
| 00:51:54 |
"The left needs a new answer": |
| 00:51:56 |
Isn't it basically |
| 00:51:58 |
"We want a radical revolution, |
| 00:52:00 |
but at the same time, |
| 00:52:02 |
we want our relatively |
| 00:52:05 |
to go on undisturbed"? |
| 00:52:07 |
Like precisely as already |
| 00:52:10 |
"We want revolution |
| 00:52:13 |
There is, I notice, |
| 00:52:15 |
a fundamental difference between |
| 00:52:16 |
the standard plurality |
| 00:52:20 |
which progressive liberals... |
| 00:52:21 |
What does it mean? |
| 00:52:22 |
Isn't it in a way false |
| 00:52:24 |
even to expect such a clear |
| 00:52:28 |
in the sense of "All we need |
| 00:52:30 |
to tell us what to do, |
| 00:52:32 |
and then capitalism |
| 00:52:34 |
we'll have socialism," and so on? |
| 00:52:36 |
I'm too stupid. |
| 00:52:38 |
- I'm sorry. |
| 00:52:40 |
Thank you very much. |
| 00:52:42 |
Again, I have to accept this, |
| 00:52:45 |
again, almost Lacanian |
| 00:52:48 |
which is that |
| 00:52:51 |
but I don't really master... |
| 00:52:54 |
People see things in me. |
| 00:52:56 |
They have some expectations. |
| 00:52:58 |
There may be political |
| 00:53:00 |
that I will provide the formula, |
| 00:53:02 |
the big question that everybody's |
| 00:53:05 |
from a leftist intellectual... |
| 00:53:06 |
"What should we do?"... |
| 00:53:07 |
or some kind |
| 00:53:09 |
to help them psychologically, |
| 00:53:11 |
or theoretical amusement |
| 00:53:13 |
in the sense of many dirty jokes |
| 00:53:17 |
And I honestly accept that. |
| 00:53:19 |
I think that my reaction |
| 00:53:22 |
should be not so much |
| 00:53:25 |
they're missing my big point," |
| 00:53:26 |
but my duty's basically |
| 00:53:29 |
to try and occupy the position |
| 00:53:33 |
which is basically to play, |
| 00:53:36 |
in a way of transference, |
| 00:53:38 |
and to undermine, |
| 00:53:41 |
to make it clear to them |
| 00:53:42 |
that the question is not |
| 00:53:46 |
but are these expectations |
| 00:53:49 |
What this expectation should |
| 00:53:53 |
It was usually |
| 00:53:57 |
was like it was Nixon, |
| 00:53:59 |
who had to do it with China. |
| 00:54:01 |
This paradox... |
| 00:54:03 |
It was de Gaulle, |
| 00:54:06 |
- Got out of Algeria. |
| 00:54:08 |
Algeria, yes. |
| 00:54:13 |
You really are an intellectual |
| 00:54:15 |
so I had to touch you. |
| 00:54:16 |
Sorry, sorry. Interrupting. |
| 00:54:17 |
I'm the editor of #Progress.# |
| 00:54:19 |
- Of? |
| 00:54:21 |
journal of socialist ideas. |
| 00:54:23 |
- I brought you a copy. |
| 00:54:26 |
- I was really impressed. |
| 00:54:29 |
He needs a shower. |
| 00:54:33 |
It was over there. |
| 00:54:43 |
Who knows here? |
| 00:54:45 |
I'm sorry. |
| 00:54:48 |
Okay, sir, you know the guy |
| 00:54:51 |
the Chinese guy? |
| 00:54:53 |
"Double Indemnity" is not |
| 00:54:59 |
"Being There" also, I think, |
| 00:55:02 |
"Being There," you know, |
| 00:55:04 |
It should be... |
| 00:55:06 |
Hal Ashby. |
| 00:55:07 |
No, this is |
| 00:55:10 |
You know the ape |
| 00:55:12 |
Fuck it, I don't get it here. |
| 00:55:15 |
Ah. U.S. '70s. "Being There." |
| 00:55:21 |
It's a wonderful movie, |
| 00:55:23 |
and look, my anal character. |
| 00:55:24 |
The price is okay, |
| 00:55:28 |
What more do I need? |
| 00:55:30 |
"Fountainhead" is the best |
| 00:55:33 |
Then the best German movie |
| 00:55:37 |
would be "Opfergang." |
| 00:55:40 |
This is the sacrificial path, |
| 00:55:43 |
from '44, by Veit Harlan, |
| 00:55:46 |
So we have Ayn Rand, a Nazi, |
| 00:55:48 |
and then... unfortunately, |
| 00:55:52 |
it is "lvan the Terrible," |
| 00:55:55 |
I would say these three |
| 00:55:56 |
are the best movies |
| 00:55:58 |
Ah, this one I want, |
| 00:56:02 |
So we have these two. |
| 00:56:04 |
That will be it, I think. |
| 00:56:07 |
How about if I buy them |
| 00:56:09 |
No, wait a minute. |
| 00:56:10 |
Poor American girl, |
| 00:56:12 |
Who pays for that? |
| 00:56:14 |
- Yeah, yeah, yeah. |
| 00:56:16 |
- Okay, with pleasure. |
| 00:56:17 |
No, let it be the eternal |
| 00:56:20 |
Did I suspect this |
| 00:56:23 |
If you were not |
| 00:56:27 |
I would in the last minute |
| 00:56:30 |
I have too many things to carry." |
| 00:56:31 |
This one is a little |
| 00:56:34 |
Shut up, or you will |
| 00:56:36 |
I'm so sad that l... |
| 00:56:39 |
What is this? |
| 00:56:40 |
My God, I would love to have |
| 00:56:43 |
- Let me buy this... |
| 00:56:46 |
Where? Which one? |
| 00:56:48 |
Sorry, can I buy this one also? |
| 00:57:07 |
Oh, sorry. Fuck off. |
| 00:57:10 |
What are you working on |
| 00:57:12 |
What's the new book? |
| 00:57:14 |
The mega... basically, |
| 00:57:17 |
Big, big mega thing. |
| 00:57:19 |
How far along are you? |
| 00:57:21 |
Pretty close to the end. |
| 00:57:23 |
It will be mega. |
| 00:57:25 |
One part philosophy, theology, |
| 00:57:28 |
one part cognitivism... |
| 00:57:31 |
and one part obscenity, |
| 00:57:35 |
- What's it gonna be called? |
| 00:57:37 |
Maybe "The Parallax View," |
| 00:57:39 |
but I must check it |
| 00:57:40 |
see if there are already |
| 00:57:43 |
named "The Parallax View," no? |
| 00:57:45 |
I must look into that aspect. |
| 00:57:47 |
What does parallax view mean? |
| 00:57:49 |
It's very simple. |
| 00:57:51 |
It comes as close as possible |
| 00:57:54 |
You know that... |
| 00:57:57 |
When you mistake |
| 00:58:01 |
You look at an object. |
| 00:58:03 |
It appears that the object itself |
| 00:58:05 |
but in reality, it's just |
| 00:58:09 |
Like lunar, stellar, |
| 00:58:14 |
The idea is, your shift in your |
| 00:58:19 |
You perceive it |
| 00:58:21 |
But, of course, |
| 00:58:23 |
that it is in the object |
| 00:58:26 |
because object-subject |
| 00:58:28 |
So what interests me |
| 00:58:32 |
like you move from one |
| 00:58:34 |
There is no way |
| 00:58:39 |
And then I develop this |
| 00:58:43 |
in philosophy, |
| 00:58:44 |
In cognitive sciences, |
| 00:58:46 |
either you look |
| 00:58:49 |
or you open the scar, |
| 00:58:51 |
you see the stupid |
| 00:58:53 |
But you really cannot |
| 00:58:55 |
and you really cannot... |
| 00:58:57 |
Even if scientifically |
| 00:58:59 |
you really cannot accept |
| 00:59:03 |
that you see. |
| 00:59:04 |
So if we distilled |
| 00:59:07 |
what would they be? |
| 00:59:09 |
Three of my best books |
| 00:59:11 |
are unfortunately four, |
| 00:59:14 |
"Sublime Object," |
| 00:59:16 |
"Ticklish Subject," |
| 00:59:18 |
This is the serious |
| 00:59:20 |
with little pieces |
| 00:59:22 |
But this is what I would... |
| 00:59:25 |
although I'm more and more |
| 00:59:27 |
It's still too liberal. |
| 00:59:29 |
I'm for democracy there. |
| 00:59:32 |
I think there was a thing |
| 00:59:35 |
which was bad, |
| 00:59:36 |
and I think there should |
| 00:59:39 |
My God, what am I talking there? |
| 00:59:41 |
You know that Marx Brothers joke |
| 00:59:42 |
"I would never be a member |
| 00:59:44 |
You know, if I were not myself, |
| 01:00:23 |
I have a very complicated ritual |
| 01:00:29 |
It's psychologically |
| 01:00:34 |
so I have to trick myself. |
| 01:00:36 |
I operate a very simple strategy |
| 01:00:38 |
which, at least with me, |
| 01:00:40 |
I put down ideas, |
| 01:00:42 |
but I put them down usually |
| 01:00:45 |
like the line of thought already |
| 01:00:48 |
So up to a certain point, |
| 01:00:51 |
I'm telling myself, "No, |
| 01:00:53 |
I'm just putting down ideas." |
| 01:00:55 |
Then, at a certain point, |
| 01:00:57 |
I tell myself, "Everything |
| 01:01:00 |
Now I just have to edit it." |
| 01:01:02 |
So that's the idea, |
| 01:01:04 |
I put down notes, I edit it. |
| 01:01:06 |
Writing disappears. |
| 01:01:11 |
I'm sorry. Please. |
| 01:01:13 |
Just be loud enough. |
| 01:01:23 |
Good question, |
| 01:01:25 |
that now I will say, |
| 01:01:28 |
No, it's much more serious |
| 01:01:30 |
Let's be quite frank. |
| 01:01:31 |
At a certain superficial level, |
| 01:01:34 |
but me and my friends, |
| 01:01:36 |
I don't think you can... |
| 01:01:39 |
even imagine how noninfluential |
| 01:01:44 |
which is why |
| 01:01:46 |
how many, whoever they are... |
| 01:01:49 |
the enemies... |
| 01:01:51 |
portray us Lacanians |
| 01:01:53 |
as some kind of a phalogocentric |
| 01:01:56 |
It's very fashionable |
| 01:01:59 |
as kind of a dogmatic |
| 01:02:02 |
For example, yesterday, |
| 01:02:05 |
a differently improvised version |
| 01:02:07 |
at Columbia in New York, |
| 01:02:08 |
a lady kindly towards the end |
| 01:02:12 |
Her problem was, why am I |
| 01:02:34 |
Which belief? |
| 01:02:39 |
Perfect. |
| 01:02:42 |
Perfect question. |
| 01:02:43 |
Okay, I defy you |
| 01:02:45 |
with a very simple empirical, |
| 01:02:47 |
in the best Anglo-Saxon |
| 01:02:50 |
Apart from this brief conflict |
| 01:02:52 |
between Gayatri Spivak |
| 01:02:55 |
could you name me one Derridian |
| 01:02:57 |
who made a small critical |
| 01:03:01 |
Rudolph Gasche? Avital Ronell? |
| 01:03:02 |
Name somewhere, |
| 01:03:05 |
Why are we dogmatic? |
| 01:03:08 |
Name me one point |
| 01:03:11 |
where Sam Weber makes an ironic critical |
| 01:03:16 |
Name me one point |
| 01:03:18 |
Name me one point |
| 01:03:21 |
So why are we... |
| 01:03:24 |
Why am I dogmatically attached |
| 01:03:28 |
Why did you think |
| 01:03:30 |
I am a Lacanian. |
| 01:03:32 |
You are knocking |
| 01:03:34 |
You don't have to prove |
| 01:03:39 |
"But he's a Lacanian." |
| 01:03:40 |
I am a card-carrying Lacanian. |
| 01:03:43 |
Something is going on here, |
| 01:03:46 |
and I just wanted to draw |
| 01:03:48 |
how all this popular, |
| 01:03:49 |
and I think so to give you now |
| 01:03:53 |
I think that I admit it. |
| 01:03:55 |
There is a clownish |
| 01:03:57 |
like they put it |
| 01:03:59 |
Marx Brother, or whatever. |
| 01:04:00 |
All that, I maybe |
| 01:04:04 |
But nonetheless, |
| 01:04:06 |
because I notice |
| 01:04:09 |
when there are some stupid |
| 01:04:12 |
a kind of a terrible urge, |
| 01:04:16 |
to make me appear |
| 01:04:20 |
And the true question would be, |
| 01:04:22 |
where does this urge come from? |
| 01:04:25 |
Why is there this necessity |
| 01:04:27 |
as somebody who can |
| 01:04:32 |
And even my publishers buy it. |
| 01:04:34 |
You know that my Lenin book... |
| 01:04:37 |
was almost turned down by Verso? |
| 01:04:39 |
Why? |
| 01:04:41 |
First, they always, at Verso, |
| 01:04:44 |
"Oh, you are just making jokes," |
| 01:04:46 |
then I told them, "Okay, now you |
| 01:04:48 |
Their reproach was, |
| 01:04:51 |
Nobody will buy the book." |
| 01:04:52 |
So, you know, much more |
| 01:04:56 |
is going on here. |
| 01:04:58 |
It's quite a complex phenomenon. |
| 01:05:02 |
I'm almost tempted to say |
| 01:05:05 |
is a resistance against |
| 01:05:08 |
And I think it's my duty, |
| 01:05:12 |
to do a kind |
| 01:05:14 |
of myself as a popular comedian |
| 01:05:26 |
Let's hope we can enter here. |
| 01:05:29 |
I don't know how this |
| 01:05:30 |
This is it. |
| 01:05:34 |
Here you should do |
| 01:05:37 |
like from "Vertigo." |
| 01:05:38 |
I saw two, three times |
| 01:05:41 |
because when it was still open, |
| 01:05:43 |
you took there |
| 01:05:45 |
And often I saw here |
| 01:05:48 |
some policemen |
| 01:05:50 |
and an object here, covered. |
| 01:05:53 |
Because you will immediately |
| 01:05:55 |
if you take the shot up. |
| 01:05:58 |
That's it. |
| 01:06:00 |
From up there, it was practical |
| 01:06:02 |
Go up, you jump down, |
| 01:06:04 |
and it's kind of a nice, |
| 01:06:08 |
It's not this spectacle |
| 01:06:09 |
that on the street, |
| 01:06:12 |
You go here, and you jump down. |
| 01:06:14 |
Of course, my idea |
| 01:06:17 |
You want to kill yourself. |
| 01:06:19 |
We prevent so that |
| 01:06:22 |
$5.00, no small children |
| 01:06:24 |
I even have the idea that, |
| 01:06:26 |
in this society of biopolitics, |
| 01:06:31 |
where they ask you... |
| 01:06:33 |
In order to get married: |
| 01:06:34 |
You don't have AIDS, |
| 01:06:37 |
Obviously, doesn't work, |
| 01:06:39 |
because if it were to work, |
| 01:06:40 |
I would never be allowed |
| 01:06:42 |
But they should do it the same |
| 01:06:44 |
like if you want |
| 01:06:46 |
I was thinking about it. |
| 01:06:48 |
I think that only people... |
| 01:06:49 |
some medical... |
| 01:06:51 |
or psychiatric |
| 01:06:55 |
should decide is it a case |
| 01:07:00 |
or just a short crisis, |
| 01:07:01 |
like you were just dropped |
| 01:07:05 |
and there is a reasonable hope |
| 01:07:07 |
that it's a momentary depression, |
| 01:07:09 |
then, in two or three weeks, |
| 01:07:11 |
So it can be medical crisis. |
| 01:07:13 |
It can be this kind |
| 01:07:15 |
or pure metaphysical suicide. |
| 01:09:06 |
As a Marxist, |
| 01:09:08 |
if somebody tells me |
| 01:09:10 |
this is class propaganda |
| 01:09:18 |
I never thought I'd have |
| 01:09:20 |
- Thank you. |
