Cameraman The Life and Work of Jack Cardiff

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00:00:47 Good evening.
00:00:49 For those of us here tonight
00:00:56 Jack Cardiff was shooting film
00:01:31 I don't do many interviews.
00:01:34 But when I was invited to speak
00:01:42 I couldn't resist,
00:01:43 because Jack Cardiff
00:01:51 Every time I saw certain names,
00:01:53 and one of the names
00:01:56 Every time I saw these names, I knew
00:02:00 And I began to have a very strong
00:02:05 because of my recognition
00:02:09 The way a movie is photographed
00:02:13 and creates the mood of the movie,
00:02:15 so that the audience is prepared
00:02:22 Cinematography is central to film.
00:02:25 Motion pictures is...
00:02:30 and you can't do them
00:02:53 Going over to Bogie, he's dead.
00:02:56 She's dead, she's dead, she's dead.
00:03:00 I'm just alive.
00:03:03 It's fantastic, isn't it?
00:03:05 - You've outlived them all.
00:03:08 Incredible.
00:03:11 I don't know. Do you think
00:03:15 No, I don't think so, I think
00:03:22 because it's full of, um...
00:03:24 full of hypocrisy, hyperbole.
00:03:29 Just about everything you can think of.
00:03:44 At this moment
00:03:53 - Thank you.
00:03:57 If anybody said, "Who is that guy? "
00:03:59 because I don't think anybody
00:04:01 I'd say, "Well, I used to be
00:05:22 - That was made 50 years ago.
00:05:25 How are you?
00:05:26 Pleased to meet you.
00:05:29 - Nice to see you.
00:05:32 Come up a bit on this one,
00:05:34 and they're putting on a narrow one
00:05:37 How old are you now?
00:05:39 A couple of weeks ago, I was 91.
00:05:42 - And you're still working?
00:05:45 Another ten years,
00:05:50 - Can you put it on now?
00:05:52 Where you are now with the smoke.
00:05:55 - When did you begin, Jack?
00:05:59 Er...well, I started in 19...
00:06:06 1918.
00:06:09 As a kid actor.
00:06:33 And that's myself
00:06:37 - You'd already been in a movie.
00:06:40 Do you remember, as a child,
00:06:45 Very, very fuzzily. I know
00:06:49 I was four years of age,
00:06:54 The director used to shout
00:06:58 "Now smile a bit, look over to her.
00:07:01 That was...that was easy, you know.
00:07:07 In between stage shows,
00:07:09 my mother and father
00:07:14 The standard rate of pay in those days,
00:07:20 And there was something like,
00:07:24 They were paid at the end of the day
00:07:29 After a while,
00:07:32 they'd get to the end of the queue
00:07:34 or put on a different coat,
00:07:36 and they'd go by
00:07:39 They were making a fortune
00:07:42 The queue was filing by for hours
00:07:46 I had a different home every week.
00:07:48 I went to about 300 schools in my youth
00:07:55 So where did you pick up
00:07:57 I read a pornographic book
00:08:00 But in between the porn, there was
00:08:04 He'd met all these great writers
00:08:08 And I went out to Foyles
00:08:10 and bought all the books he mentioned
00:08:15 That started it,
00:08:17 So you learned
00:08:19 Yes.
00:08:26 The first job I had was really
00:08:30 The director had
00:08:34 He was...
00:08:38 I had to hand him fresh, cold
00:08:42 so I had to sort of have it all ready.
00:08:44 That was a silent picture.
00:08:47 And then the next picture
00:08:53 Hitchcock was in the next stage.
00:08:57 When sound films first came out,
00:09:01 and to do that we had clappers.
00:09:03 which was just two pieces of wood
00:09:06 and then you'd put the sound
00:09:10 And the first clappers, they thought
00:09:15 that they gave it to the director,
00:09:17 and he would solemnly
00:09:19 and then clap and sit down
00:09:22 It was considered a very vital thing.
00:09:24 But after a while, he found
00:09:27 so they put the job with the young
00:09:32 He was a number boy, and he became
00:09:36 4 take 1.
00:09:40 While I was at B&D Studios,
00:09:44 which had to be completed
00:09:48 I was then operating the camera,
00:09:51 cos they'd never do another take,
00:10:06 Korda brought over
00:10:11 and, I think, was instrumental in founding
00:10:18 I mean, he gave people the opportunity
00:10:30 Run, run, Orlando.
00:10:33 A lot of fascinating stars
00:10:38 and, what was most important,
00:10:59 What are you waiting for?
00:11:00 Dietrich was a big sensation, of course,
00:11:03 and she...she used to put
00:11:07 She knew about lighting,
00:11:10 She would have been
00:11:13 and she knew that
00:11:16 45 degrees,
00:11:19 and most cameramen over the years
00:11:23 She had a slightly turned-up nose.
00:11:27 So to straighten it out
00:11:29 and then inside here,
00:11:33 See this white inside.
00:11:37 She looked gorgeous.
00:11:40 She used to have a full-length mirror
00:11:44 She'd look in the mirror and say, "Harry,
00:11:49 "and how about the kicker light? "
00:11:51 She used to comment on it,
00:11:53 and Harry would whisper to me,
00:11:57 - Have you had luck so far?
00:12:00 And the most wonderful of all
00:12:06 - Do you think so?
00:12:10 Even if tomorrow
00:12:14 ...as it may do.
00:12:17 What about this one?
00:12:20 We had this scene in the bath,
00:12:23 and she came on the set,
00:12:25 and we thought she was going to be
00:12:28 which was the usual thing.
00:12:30 When she took off her dressing gown,
00:12:33 Within half an hour of doing these shots
00:12:37 There was about 16 electricians
00:12:40 trying to look technical,
00:12:44 The ground, which was a paper floor,
00:12:47 And as she got out, she slipped on
00:12:53 and the towels missed her completely,
00:12:57 and there was the great Marlene
00:13:00 stark naked.
00:13:07 He started very early in colour.
00:13:09 Started about when
00:13:13 It's a different medium, really.
00:13:15 You light in a different way,
00:13:21 The Technicolor people
00:13:23 to choose one young operator
00:13:28 and they came out shaking
00:13:29 because the technical questions
00:13:34 So, when it came to my turn,
00:13:36 "I'm afraid on the technical side,
00:13:39 and there was a shocked silence,
00:13:41 and they said, "How are you
00:13:44 I study painting and light
00:13:48 and they asked me, "Which side
00:13:51 I took a chance and said, "This side,
00:13:55 and then I talked about Pieter de Hooch
00:13:58 and the camera obscura and that stuff,
00:14:00 and the next day I learnt
00:14:08 Light comes through the front,
00:14:11 and there's a prism here, which is
00:14:15 Twenty-five per cent of the light
00:14:19 on to the one film in this gate here.
00:14:22 That's the green record.
00:14:24 And then the other...rest of the light,
00:14:29 comes through
00:14:32 This is a bipack of the blue
00:14:34 And, of course,
00:14:38 Of course, these things free the
00:14:42 But I used to put on this big act and say,
00:14:46 "a little less blue there,"
00:14:48 and they believed it, they thought
00:15:03 The whole camera department
00:15:05 and Jack was the only one
00:15:10 And he was the camera operator
00:15:13 Here they come.
00:15:17 Donnerhill still in rather a pocket
00:15:20 It was a fascinating new world,
00:15:22 because I was into
00:15:27 and I was mad
00:15:30 and I thought, "Well, this is it."
00:15:42 The surface of anything
00:15:45 and is reflecting the rest.
00:15:47 What it reflects strikes the eye and that's
00:15:52 Colour is light and light is colour.
00:15:55 He always liked to experiment.
00:15:57 He liked to apply certain things
00:16:01 to cinematography.
00:16:17 As you see, I've always collected a lot
00:16:22 I learnt a lot about painting...
00:16:26 And the main idea is I copied
00:16:32 I couldn't afford to buy the real one
00:16:35 and that's the way to learn.
00:16:38 A lot of real painters copy
00:16:41 because this way they learn from each
00:16:45 Some people say it's a copy.
00:16:47 But it takes a long time to analyse
00:16:57 Then I had a big break, because
00:17:03 who was a count, Count von Keller.
00:17:07 He was a great traveller.
00:17:08 He was a sort of...I don't know,
00:17:13 He was a wonderful character.
00:17:15 Somebody suggested to him,
00:17:17 "When you're on these travels,
00:17:20 "Why don't you take along
00:17:23 "and make travel films? "
00:17:25 The work and spirit of
00:17:29 for Lawrence,
00:17:31 imparted to the dwellers
00:17:34 a sense of law and order
00:17:37 Jack is in the middle and I'm
00:17:42 We went to Africa and India
00:17:45 with a Technicolor camera.
00:17:49 The outside walls are richly
00:17:53 so rich that not one panel
00:17:57 Most people
00:17:59 And to see places in colour
00:18:03 He is Nundi the bull.
00:18:06 Worshipped as an embodiment
00:18:09 But Jack was
00:18:12 Nobody else had much idea
00:18:14 about how to set about
00:18:23 When Vesuvius was on, and
00:18:27 we had to sort of choose a moment
00:18:31 ...while from the lips
00:18:34 I broke the prism
00:18:38 Burnt my shoes, anyway.
00:18:47 "Western Approaches"
00:18:49 because it's the first ever
00:18:53 that isn't a travelogue.
00:18:55 - What have you decided to do, sir?
00:18:58 Prevailing winds in part of
00:19:02 You had a lifeboat
00:19:06 and the Technicolor camera, it was
00:19:09 and the director and myself
00:19:13 And we went out every day in the Irish
00:19:16 This is the "Forces Programme".
00:19:18 Now here's a short recital
00:19:21 We're on the home stretch now.
00:19:24 It won't be long now.
00:19:29 For the first time
00:19:31 British film-makers
00:19:38 People enjoyed seeing British films.
00:19:40 They actually preferred them
00:19:42 They felt they came closer
00:19:46 How could Americans understand
00:19:48 what people in Britain
00:19:52 So towards the end of the war, I think
00:19:58 At that time,
00:20:00 I had not yet photographed
00:20:04 I'd done lots of little pieces and
00:20:09 and I was desperate
00:20:17 The main character,
00:20:20 is trying to deal with his loneliness
00:20:24 and shooting animals all over the world.
00:20:27 Jack Cardiff was doing the shooting
00:20:32 and my husband came in
00:20:34 I heard a voice say, "Very interesting,"
00:20:38 and he said, "Would you like
00:20:42 and I said, "Oh, yes, Mr. Powell,"
00:20:45 and I thought, "He's just said that and
00:20:49 Are you wounded? Repeat,
00:20:52 - What's your name?
00:20:54 Yes, June, I'm bailing out.
00:20:56 I'm bailing out but there's a catch.
00:20:59 Oh...hello? Hello, Peter?
00:21:05 Hello? Hello, Peter? Can you hear me?
00:21:07 Michael Powell just felt
00:21:11 who knew the most about how to get
00:21:17 The Archers had what was described
00:21:19 as the longest period
00:21:21 within a major studio ever,
00:21:23 and because their films were
00:21:28 they got away with murder.
00:21:30 We were our own bosses.
00:21:33 We produced it,
00:21:36 and if anybody said to us,
00:21:40 we just said, "Eff off!"
00:21:42 It was a wonderful combination,
00:21:45 who was daring and running around
00:21:49 and Emeric,
00:21:52 He would be the one
00:21:55 "This is going too far, because of this
00:22:00 They were fantastic.
00:22:03 A very unique person in his own way.
00:22:05 And then you add Jack to the mix,
00:22:17 It was daunting for me,
00:22:19 and even for Michael Powell
00:22:26 We were doing an exterior and Michael
00:22:31 "but instead of just a fade-in
00:22:33 "I'd like to have something different
00:22:37 And I said, "Look through the camera,"
00:22:39 so he looked through the camera
00:22:50 When I saw the Archers logo,
00:22:53 Then I saw the name Cardiff
00:22:56 and.I knew this was a unique...I was
00:23:05 - Child, where were you born?
00:23:08 I've made a bunch of films in Hollywood
00:23:13 It was an enormous production.
00:23:15 The court will adjourn.
00:23:21 It was, I've always thought,
00:23:26 I mean, you couldn't do it on the stage
00:23:33 I remember,
00:23:37 I said to him, quite casually,
00:23:40 I said, "Michael,
00:23:43 "and the earth will be in black and white."
00:23:45 He said, "No, the contrary."
00:23:47 I said, "Why? "
00:23:50 That was typical in his nature.
00:23:52 He was perverse to the extent
00:23:53 that he would like to do
00:23:56 I mean, the ordinary
00:23:59 A little trick of mine, you remember?
00:24:01 In order to get the transition
00:24:05 we would shoot the main sequence
00:24:08 but the penultimate shot
00:24:12 so that they would be able to start
00:24:16 and then bring in the colour.
00:24:18 Marius Goring ad-libbed
00:24:21 and Mickey Powell immediately said,
00:24:26 One is starved for Technicolor up there.
00:24:30 Really throughout
00:24:34 except that when we were doing
00:24:38 I was so curious that I did go, early on,
00:24:42 I think for the first time
00:24:48 they clearly were not happy
00:24:53 They said, "Send it back,"
00:24:56 "we must have it better than that!"
00:24:58 So I have a feeling that Jack
00:25:08 Outside the Empire,
00:25:11 to see the royal family and also
00:25:14 attending the Royal Command
00:25:18 Michael Powell, one of the two
00:25:21 At the end of the picture,
00:25:22 either the cameramen
00:25:27 or Technicolor would do it for him.
00:25:30 I have several,
00:25:51 Mopu is 8,000 feet up.
00:25:53 The peaks on the range opposite
00:25:56 The people call the highest peak
00:26:01 On "Black Narcissus", we all
00:26:06 and we were greatly surprised when
00:26:09 the entire film was going to be made
00:26:14 I saw it as a wonderful
00:26:19 to produce a real perfect
00:26:25 Michael collected around him
00:26:30 and he had a brilliant art director,
00:26:34 He was very German
00:26:38 and if he designed a set,
00:26:40 when you walked on for the first time,
00:26:43 and he said, "That is the camera
00:26:48 Alfred Junge the designer
00:26:52 would have endless arguments
00:26:57 first of all on paper
00:27:01 then in detail,
00:27:07 The exteriors out on the lot
00:27:11 were absolutely marvellous,
00:27:13 because they were plaster mountains
00:27:16 but the result was just unbelievable.
00:27:18 You looked out of the window
00:27:21 Sometimes Alfred
00:27:26 and Jack pointed out that
00:27:29 for this particular sequence
00:27:32 couldn't be done because
00:27:35 Alfred would be furious.
00:27:38 But together they just worked miracles.
00:27:44 I mean, you never get
00:27:54 After the film was released,
00:27:56 I believe Micky got a letter
00:27:59 who said that they knew the locations,
00:28:02 It was a good, good idea!
00:28:09 Vermeer was the sort of painter
00:28:13 because the light had to be clear
00:28:30 When I did this green,
00:28:33 and sort of pinkish colours
00:28:37 it was a thing of anger,
00:28:39 I tried to use
00:28:42 I mean, any cameraman
00:28:46 and moods of light and things.
00:28:48 Light is the principal agent,
00:28:50 and that should be the same
00:28:54 that the use of light is like a painter,
00:29:01 The emotional
00:29:04 that was made through
00:29:06 I felt, watching those pictures
00:29:09 He made them special.
00:29:11 Because of that, you wanted to be
00:29:20 You can't order me about. You have
00:29:25 I know what you've done.
00:29:27 I only want to stop you from
00:29:30 Sister Philippa is going back in a few
00:29:33 That's what you would like to do,
00:29:38 Michael Powell
00:29:41 Sister Clodagh, Sister Clodagh!
00:29:43 - You know what she says about you?
00:29:45 - You say that because you love her!
00:29:49 Clodagh. Clodagh.
00:29:52 Clodagh! Clodagh!
00:29:53 Clodagh! Clodagh!
00:29:56 When I saw their work on screen,
00:30:00 It was palpable. It was...it...
00:30:04 The colour itself became
00:30:12 The atmosphere that was
00:30:16 I was most inspired by it.
00:30:22 I mean, I thought I was just going out
00:30:29 But when I saw it on the screen, I was
00:30:35 and this incredible face with the wet hair.
00:30:38 He gave me half of my performance
00:30:45 When Arthur Rank...
00:30:48 he took it to California,
00:30:54 it got the most wonderful
00:30:57 The art direction got two Oscars.
00:30:59 Jack Cardiff's photography
00:31:06 The whole communication
00:31:10 is combined through costume,
00:31:14 the movement of people
00:31:17 sometimes the movement
00:31:22 and cutting, all to music.
00:31:24 All designed specifically to music.
00:31:26 Then they took it and went further
00:31:38 The last day but one
00:31:40 Michael Powell said to me,
00:31:43 I said, "Not much, all these sissies
00:31:48 And he was amused
00:31:51 He said, "Jack, you'd better get to like
00:31:55 "I've got tickets for you to go practically
00:31:59 Very shortly, of course, I became
00:32:03 and I loved it.
00:32:05 Actually, Miss Page,
00:32:08 I want to create, to make something big
00:32:11 The theme
00:32:15 Michael was saying that if you want to
00:32:20 you have to be prepared
00:32:22 because you're challenging everybody
00:32:28 and you have to be aware that
00:32:33 and bring you down when you do this.
00:32:34 Why do you want to dance?
00:32:40 Why do you want to live?
00:32:42 I don't know exactly why, but I must.
00:32:48 That's my answer too.
00:32:50 Some ballet enthusiasts feel
00:32:56 The best shooting of ballet, to be literal
00:33:00 Fred Astaire had in his contract
00:33:01 that you had to keep photographing him
00:33:07 But they changed that completely.
00:33:12 They made a film about what goes on
00:33:26 It's how the dancer, he or she,
00:33:31 So you get the spirit of the dance,
00:33:34 and I applied that later
00:33:42 What they hear, what they see.
00:33:44 What they hear and what they see,
00:33:47 Michael Powell had courage.
00:33:50 He would risk, he would take a risk,
00:33:54 which might seem crazy
00:33:58 The camera devices
00:34:02 They're welded
00:34:05 They are for the purpose
00:34:14 I think because Jack had vision,
00:34:19 about what he was going to do,
00:34:22 he didn't feel curbed
00:34:25 I had the idea of increasing
00:34:30 that as he jumped,
00:34:34 for about less than a second.
00:34:37 So it went up, and as it got up
00:34:41 which slowed him down imperceptibly,
00:34:43 and he seemed to linger in the air
00:34:49 They were coming up
00:34:53 and when you see how big that thing
00:34:57 I mean, they did call it the "enchanted
00:35:01 How they moved that thing around,
00:35:05 - Can you imagine?
00:35:07 It was enormous, and you didn't have
00:35:11 That's the famous
00:35:15 The camera flying in and out as though
00:35:19 Would be a hand-held shot these days,
00:35:21 but the camera is on a sort of bungee
00:35:38 You begin to see, I must
00:35:44 or a piece of composition
00:35:47 that you begin to realise that
00:35:55 It becomes like moving paintings.
00:35:59 Along with Hein Heckroth, Michael and
00:36:02 But it's a painting, paintings that moved,
00:36:06 not only moved visually but emotionally
00:36:24 There was something so audacious
00:36:27 and something that was so utterly, um...
00:36:32 unique, different from any film
00:36:41 Qu'est-ce que tu as?
00:36:43 Mon petit.
00:36:45 Et ou vas-tu?
00:36:47 Mon petit!
00:36:59 No!
00:37:02 The lessons of those films have never
00:37:06 It's had a huge influence. Particularly
00:37:10 De Palma. De Palma, easily.
00:37:13 It's about expressing colour,
00:37:15 it's expressing, you know, the glint
00:37:19 It's all there with Brian.
00:37:21 And Lucas and Coppola.
00:37:24 And then of course you have
00:37:27 Clearly in "One From The Heart".
00:37:29 It's about passion, I think.
00:37:31 You could feel these people were
00:37:37 When it was cut,
00:37:40 Usually if a film isn't very good,
00:37:43 they might sort of put on a little bit
00:37:46 and, you know, and say, "Well done,"
00:37:50 But on this occasion
00:37:53 and they walked out without
00:37:56 They just ignored him,
00:37:58 because they were convinced
00:38:01 J Arthur Rank thought they'd gone mad
00:38:03 and said, "This is terrible, we have
00:38:06 "From now on, we will tell them what to
00:38:10 It was a very sad end
00:38:16 I mean,
00:38:20 but they're a particular aesthetic.
00:38:23 It's the kind of aesthetic
00:38:27 - And then it will be kitsch...
00:38:29 ...and then it'll be art again.
00:38:45 I've signed all over England
00:38:49 and I just lost count.
00:38:52 - I'll put happy birthday.
00:38:55 I'm outside the studio gates once,
00:38:57 I'd just come back from seeing
00:39:01 and as they came through the gates
00:39:04 I went by and they said, "Who's that? "
00:39:07 - So how did you feel?
00:39:14 After working
00:39:16 Jack had a remarkable career,
00:39:18 because in quite a short space of time,
00:39:22 he worked with many of
00:39:25 It's a real roll call
00:39:36 Hitchcock had just made "Rope",
00:39:38 and it was 80 minutes,
00:39:41 A lot of eight-minute
00:39:47 so that the picture
00:39:50 I think Hitch
00:39:52 because he felt
00:39:55 Ingrid Bergman,
00:39:57 "You care more about the technicalities
00:40:01 He put everything
00:40:04 He rarely looked through the camera,
00:40:08 He'd say to me, "Jack,
00:40:11 "You're getting the hands in the picture? "
00:40:15 It was the first crane of its kind
00:40:18 that ran entirely independent of tracks.
00:40:21 The camera started
00:40:26 through the kitchen
00:40:28 Talk, talk, talk, and went into the hall.
00:40:32 Parts of the set
00:40:35 to allow the camera crane
00:40:39 We'd pan round to where
00:40:41 I had to light six or eight sets,
00:40:47 Round and round. Back to the hall.
00:40:50 All in one shot
00:40:52 I had electricians holding lamps, and
00:40:56 On one occasion we had a shot
00:41:01 through the door,
00:41:02 and as we approached her bed,
00:41:07 when instead of going up,
00:41:10 which was a cumbersome thing to do,
00:41:13 we approached her straight
00:41:17 and as you tracked in,
00:41:20 so that you'd have a big close-up
00:41:24 It ended up
00:41:27 There were some very long takes
00:41:32 It couldn't possibly be
00:41:35 because everything was a compromise.
00:41:38 But it was really my greatest
00:41:42 because it was doing the impossible.
00:41:48 I'm just going outside.
00:42:06 It was probably one of the most
00:42:11 ...and I had the luck of having
00:42:30 There was something
00:42:33 about the English use of Technicolor,
00:42:35 particularly by a man like Cardiff.
00:42:38 That became something else, and had
00:42:42 Not to say that the American
00:42:45 They were brilliant.
00:42:47 But how should I put it?
00:42:54 Jack joined Hollywood
00:42:55 at the point at which it really began
00:43:08 I think that was a very exciting
00:43:11 to be working
00:43:14 He worked with Henry Hathaway.
00:43:16 He was a toughie.
00:43:18 On "The Black Rose",
00:43:22 that we had a plane
00:43:25 which flew people, every couple of days,
00:43:29 He would devote his life to that picture.
00:43:34 And he expected everyone else
00:43:38 And if they were not ready to die,
00:43:51 I never saw anyone look less like young
00:43:55 He said he'd play Genghis Khan
00:43:57 on condition that his coat
00:44:02 They said, "But, Orson, we don't see
00:44:07 Orson said, "I've got to do it that way."
00:44:09 So, OK, they got the mink
00:44:12 You never saw it inside, the lining inside.
00:44:15 Of course, at the end of the film,
00:44:18 he slipped off with the coat
00:44:20 and went off to do
00:44:24 and turned the coat inside out so that
00:44:28 What are you stewin' about,
00:44:30 Bonnard told you
00:44:33 - Where?
00:44:36 Straight ahead and turn to your left.
00:44:39 On the first day of shooting,
00:44:42 He played the part
00:44:46 He came on the set and he had...
00:44:50 and the holster and the boots
00:44:54 And I said to Hathaway, "Henry,
00:44:59 Hathaway looked at me
00:45:01 and he said,
00:45:04 He was always doing the
00:45:08 and flicking it round
00:45:12 I did a lot of shots of him doing that.
00:45:15 Someone gave Sophia one of
00:45:18 and she loved that.
00:45:20 Hathaway was a wonderful director,
00:45:24 but he was a man who,
00:45:30 He had got far worse
00:45:33 because we had this desert,
00:45:37 no sign of a footprint or anything.
00:45:39 And you can imagine a film unit
00:45:54 The English crew were having
00:45:58 and he'd put up a notice on the board
00:46:02 because he hated the whole idea
00:46:05 He said, "In future," on the notice board,
00:46:07 "the English crew
00:46:11 And he said, "Come on, Jack,
00:46:14 I said, "Henry, you've blown it.
00:46:18 He said, "What the hell are you
00:46:21 "at the moment
00:46:23 "They don't particularly like you
00:46:26 "But now you've done that, English tea,
00:46:31 He said, "Oh, you're full of shit,"
00:46:35 then he turned the car round
00:46:37 and he tore the notice board
00:46:46 I've got something for you too, and it's
00:46:51 The assistant director had come
00:46:55 "He's gone straight to the bar
00:46:57 "followed by beer chasers."
00:47:00 So when I got to the bar
00:47:03 He was never really drunk. He was
00:47:08 Errol fell ill
00:47:12 and he collapsed
00:47:16 and the doctor said,
00:47:22 "His liver doesn't exist any more.
00:47:25 And the producer said, "You don't
00:47:30 We carried on shooting with a double.
00:47:35 And in something like three
00:47:41 and he did look pretty awful
00:47:45 The doctor said, "Well, it's a miracle,
00:47:47 "but, of course, he must never
00:47:50 And he came on the set
00:47:55 and as usual...carried on as usual.
00:48:03 You have been studying my style,
00:48:05 One has to understand
00:48:09 I was going to say
00:48:11 No, today they're entertainment too.
00:48:13 But at that time they were coming out
00:48:16 There were Westerns,
00:48:19 and Technicolor was used
00:48:23 In the '40s and '50s, colour was still
00:48:29 rather than what happened
00:48:31 where all films became colour.
00:48:47 Jack was suggested
00:48:50 who also happened to be the star.
00:48:53 That's Kirk Douglas.
00:48:57 The shooting was very difficult.
00:49:00 It seemed to be raining all the time.
00:49:03 And once, in exasperation,
00:49:06 I asked one of the young
00:49:10 "Hey, does it rain all the time here? "
00:49:14 He said, "I don't know.
00:49:20 I suggested to Dick,
00:49:23 "Because these Vikings
00:49:25 "and they would be out in all weathers."
00:49:28 Dick agreed
00:49:31 because it means that we could shoot,
00:49:35 But as people know in the film business,
00:49:39 So we had to supplement it
00:49:43 The local villagers thought
00:49:45 It was already raining and
00:49:47 But it worked very well.
00:49:50 Kirk Douglas,
00:49:52 In fact, he was a very good...
00:49:54 He had a good sense of timing and all
00:49:58 - He does the shot walking on the oars.
00:50:01 He fell in once or twice
00:50:04 But that was considered a must,
00:50:06 cos he was too perfect, in fact.
00:50:09 When he climbs up the wall of
00:50:15 he climbed himself.
00:50:23 With Jack's ingenuity,
00:50:25 we were able to do
00:50:29 And looking at the film now, I'm really
00:50:33 knowing how they were made,
00:50:35 which is really with spit and cardboard
00:50:39 and it worked great.
00:50:45 Jack and I were very worried,
00:50:50 where you have all the Viking ships
00:50:56 And it's essential to the story
00:51:00 And Jack solved the problem with us.
00:51:03 He said, "If we could just get
00:51:06 "where the ships go
00:51:10 "that's all I really need,
00:51:14 "I'll make my own filter,
00:51:16 "and paint it, a white filter,
00:51:20 "which we'll just put up in front
00:51:23 "where the real fog is."
00:51:26 And that's what we did.
00:51:29 And it's absolutely convincing.
00:51:34 Every time I see it, I get a chill,
00:51:37 but also the beauty of the shot.
00:51:42 Jack, certainly, looking at his work,
00:51:48 is probably the greatest
00:51:56 Turner, well, I mean,
00:51:59 If he'd been alive today,
00:52:01 he would have been probably
00:52:04 I mean the way that he got dramatic
00:52:09 which takes courage,
00:52:13 but he had plenty of courage,
00:52:16 I mean, that church is burnt out
00:52:20 I wouldn't start to dare to compare
00:52:25 but I learnt a lot of lessons from Turner.
00:52:27 You should go out and do something
00:52:30 and that's the whole essence
00:52:38 We wanted an extreme long shot,
00:52:42 of the duel in the snow,
00:52:45 and these two guys
00:52:48 But, of course, long shot,
00:52:51 so I had this idea of putting a piece
00:52:54 about six feet away.
00:52:56 I painted the glass,
00:52:59 Then behind my shoulder I put
00:53:03 Iike a reflection of the sun.
00:53:05 But the first attempt I made,
00:53:09 and I overdid it, and the paint
00:53:11 and Dino de Laurentis the producer
00:53:15 "Cardiff, what do you do?
00:53:18 I said, "I'm painting the glass,"
00:53:22 He was furious and walked off the stage.
00:53:24 But later, it was a very effective shot
00:53:40 Of all the love stories
00:53:44 this is the one to live in your memory.
00:53:47 I had a call from New York
00:53:49 He said, "Jack, I want
00:53:53 I loved the film.
00:53:55 It was great fun working with
00:54:15 One of the most
00:54:18 of this whole canon
00:54:21 would be "Pandora
00:54:23 When do you want to marry me, Steve?
00:54:26 ...which was produced
00:54:29 who'd had a big success
00:54:32 "Pandora And The Flying
00:54:35 It had fantasy and exotic locations.
00:54:37 I am predisposed to that,
00:54:40 Neo-realism I had right around me.
00:54:42 If I wanted to go to a movie, I wanted
00:54:46 With one bloody blow,
00:54:55 It was so romantic,
00:54:58 It took you to another world.
00:55:00 There was something
00:55:01 which put in my mind
00:55:05 Faith is a lie
00:55:08 Silence!
00:55:10 It had the magical quality of Ava
00:55:14 a mystical sexuality.
00:55:18 Hello?
00:55:20 She said, "Jack, I'm pleased
00:55:23 "but you have to watch when I have my
00:55:27 I said, "I'll look after that."
00:55:31 Al Lewin used to do take after take, not
00:55:37 but he just wanted to keep going
00:55:42 And in a way that's true.
00:55:46 He said, "I want you to go
00:55:49 "and buy yourself a 16mm camera."
00:55:51 Which I have here, and it's just about
00:55:57 And I took it out to Africa
00:56:02 Well, I've taken it on many films.
00:56:12 A little to starboard, Miss!
00:56:22 John Huston had the idea
00:56:26 and he said
00:56:29 Huston went out there and said he didn't
00:56:34 He disappeared for a couple of weeks
00:56:37 whether he'd been eaten by crocodiles,
00:56:39 but he then sent a telegram
00:56:43 in the Belgian Congo.
00:56:45 It was right in nowhere land.
00:56:49 It was called Biondo, this place,
00:56:52 It was two days' Jeep ride
00:56:56 He was not always thrilled
00:56:58 because if there was
00:57:01 John Huston was the man to find it.
00:57:04 I was there for the whole shoot,
00:57:05 and I think Jack had
00:57:10 John always tried to get
00:57:15 really difficult ones,
00:57:17 and Jack always got what he wanted.
00:57:44 Huston was quite easy-going, in a way.
00:57:47 But ever, beneath the casual
00:57:54 was the perfectionist.
00:57:57 He had the utmost regard for Jack,
00:58:00 because they basically
00:58:05 We were towing this raft,
00:58:08 and we had Katherine Hepburn's
00:58:12 I had a tiny generator for my two lamps.
00:58:14 I only had two lamps on the picture.
00:58:17 And one or two others,
00:58:20 So it was a string of little boats
00:58:23 Of course, when we came to a corner,
00:58:27 and they couldn't turn
00:58:31 You could find yourself
00:58:35 on the boat with Katie and Bogie
00:58:39 and your other leg up
00:58:41 holding a boom like that over them
00:58:44 and in those rivers
00:58:49 In Uganda on Lake Victoria,
00:58:53 I mean all kinds of dysentery,
00:58:58 Sam Spiegel, our friend
00:59:01 He was furious cos the movie
00:59:05 We got yet another doctor to look at it
00:59:09 that the filter, the water filter...
00:59:11 We were on a houseboat,
00:59:15 So we were drinking just river water with
00:59:20 And the only two persons who weren't
00:59:25 because they never touched water,
00:59:27 - I could give you a hand.
00:59:33 I'm all right. I'm all right.
00:59:36 Hepburn was an incredible lady.
00:59:38 She was very strong-minded,
00:59:40 and in some ways she didn't want
00:59:44 She wanted to be tough and accepted
00:59:50 She did go in the jungle
00:59:53 Ain't no person in their right mind
00:59:56 I never dreamed that any mere physical
01:00:00 How's that, Miss?
01:00:01 Bogie, of course, put on
01:00:05 I mean, he told me at the beginning
01:00:08 He said, "Jack, see this face?
01:00:11 "It's taken me many years to get
01:00:14 "That's the way I want it. Don't light me
01:00:18 "I want to look like this." So I did it.
01:00:21 Bogie was not an actor who
01:00:25 But he appreciated good photography.
01:00:28 And he loved effective photography
01:00:33 I wrote and directed
01:00:38 her short, full career
01:00:41 It was a frightening film
01:00:44 I'll never forget the opening scenes
01:00:47 And his colour, his use of colour,
01:00:50 particularly when they're in Monte Carlo
01:00:53 She unveils, in a sense, and Edmond
01:00:56 It's an extraordinary picture.
01:00:59 The world's number-one
01:01:02 on display all over the world's
01:01:05 with the world's number-one
01:01:08 and nobody wrapped her up
01:01:11 Oh, she was gorgeous,
01:01:15 I was on location
01:01:19 Yeah, but I think that Ava Gardner
01:01:23 I mean, Bogie may have been,
01:01:28 The first time I met her,
01:01:35 The next time I worked with her,
01:01:39 Something had gone wrong
01:01:44 and that made her a bit sleepy,
01:01:47 so I was lighting her more carefully.
01:01:49 And it is a fact, they rely
01:01:55 I think I am pretty enough, but I would
01:01:59 Pretty enough? Any woman that
01:02:03 Key light? What is that?
01:02:06 That's your light
01:02:08 the light that shines only on you.
01:02:10 You took a lot of portraits of actresses,
01:02:14 - Yes, I had...
01:02:16 I used to take them
01:02:20 And, um...I only had time to do a few.
01:02:31 Audrey Hepburn was one
01:02:38 That's a typical type of lighting,
01:02:44 Dark, light, dark, light.
01:02:47 - What's the name of that again?
01:03:04 Pierre.
01:03:19 I tried to photograph them
01:03:23 to get used to their face and study
01:03:29 Janet Leigh? That was on "The Vikings".
01:03:32 And then we have Anita Ekberg,
01:03:37 And that was on "War And Peace".
01:03:48 They all had different qualities. I mean,
01:03:52 Very expressive eyes.
01:03:54 Audrey Hepburn had these
01:03:59 She made a fashion out of that, and
01:04:06 That's Sophia Loren,
01:04:09 with a big hat.
01:04:11 This is when I became like an amateur
01:04:15 Why does he take them?
01:04:19 And these women
01:04:21 And, you know, like you collect stamps,
01:04:23 I collected beautiful women,
01:04:27 Marilyn was always
01:04:30 and she had a face
01:04:34 She had a slightly tipped-up nose,
01:04:38 She specifically asked
01:04:42 Well, that was because I was in vogue.
01:04:45 It's almost like footballers
01:04:48 They want a certain footballer
01:04:52 and they find out that
01:04:55 I don't know. And she asked for me,
01:04:59 You have pretty eyebrows.
01:05:01 Love. What a universe of joy and pain
01:05:09 Larry was...he was supposed
01:05:12 But he wanted to look through
01:05:15 - He was directing.
01:05:18 So I took his position and Marilyn
01:05:23 and later on she wrote,
01:05:26 and Arthur Miller, the husband, said,
01:05:30 - What were you gonna do?
01:05:33 It was a tough job for him
01:05:36 I think she was a darling girl
01:05:39 but she...she had a lot of problems...
01:05:42 - Do you reverse?
01:05:44 She would come on the set very late,
01:05:54 Between Marilyn and Olivier,
01:05:56 there were occasional reports of strain.
01:05:59 We had a wonderful
01:06:02 who was with her for years.
01:06:04 When she died, there was
01:06:07 for he was in New York at the time,
01:06:10 because it was in the contract he had
01:06:14 The idea of making up this gorgeous
01:06:18 and putting on the lipstick and
01:06:22 He told me he had to have a couple
01:06:32 Some weeks ago,
01:06:35 celebrating my 80 years in the cinema.
01:06:39 No matter how good the cameraman is,
01:06:43 he's got to serve the director,
01:06:47 The director has to be the one who
01:06:56 It became apparent
01:07:01 that Jack really was
01:07:06 and in the direction of the picture.
01:07:08 Jack had every potential
01:07:14 and we discussed that,
01:07:16 and as a matter of fact, I let him direct
01:07:23 just to see how he handled it,
01:07:27 and how he felt directing a film.
01:07:30 I worked
01:07:33 and the first one,
01:07:36 why on earth did I want
01:07:40 when I'd been on top as a cameraman.
01:07:42 And they suggested that I went back
01:07:46 Anyway, soon after that I got
01:07:57 What is it?
01:08:01 It's the mine.
01:08:09 I thought "Sons & Lovers"
01:08:13 Some of them don't make the transition
01:08:18 Local people, many of them
01:08:22 to help recreate a mining disaster.
01:08:25 Jack Cardiff was the director.
01:08:27 I do think that cinematographers
01:08:31 of concentrating
01:08:34 which I don't think Jack did,
01:08:37 and I think that he was very clever
01:08:39 to want to work with Freddie Francis,
01:08:42 who was a very established
01:08:48 I'd just done a film for Jack Clayton,
01:08:51 and I guess Jack liked the look of that
01:08:57 Either that, or he thought I was cheap.
01:09:00 I would never go to Freddie
01:09:04 Whatever. I would never say anything.
01:09:07 It's a beautifully lit and
01:09:11 It's one of the classics
01:09:13 of British black-and-white
01:09:19 Forgive me.
01:09:21 Forgive you? I love you.
01:09:25 I always thought, being a southerner,
01:09:27 I always thought that going up north,
01:09:32 so I was quite happy
01:09:37 Action,
01:09:39 producing a scene which will be
01:09:55 You found yourself
01:09:58 at the American Academy Awards,
01:09:59 alongside Alfired Hitchcock.
01:10:03 - I'd worked with him, as you know.
01:10:06 He said, "I've seen 'Sons & Lovers'."
01:10:08 He said, "It was bloody good."
01:10:11 He looked at me as much to say,
01:10:15 Because to him, I was a cameraman,
01:10:18 Mother! We're here!
01:10:20 - Hey!
01:10:24 - Go on.
01:10:27 They'll be waiting to see us.
01:10:29 It had a tremendous reception
01:10:34 that the lights were coming on
01:10:37 And Buddy Adler, who was the chief of
01:10:44 "Jack, you must enjoy every moment of
01:10:48 In fact it never happened
01:10:52 Didyou see "Sons & Lovers"?
01:10:54 Of course. That's a beautiful film.
01:10:58 And I liked...I liked "Sons & Lovers".
01:11:02 "Young Cassidy" I like a great deal.
01:11:15 - We'll win freedom yet, you bastards!
01:11:40 2 take 3.
01:11:42 Was it hard for you to go back to
01:11:46 Not really. I've always loved
01:11:48 And that was the time after that,
01:11:53 I made about a dozen films in all,
01:11:55 and then the film business in England,
01:11:58 There was no work at all.
01:12:02 I think it was...must have been
01:12:10 and I really felt for him
01:12:17 In the other way, I was happy
01:12:20 to be the cinematographer
01:12:26 Your Majesty,
01:12:44 There are good cameramen
01:12:48 There are very few good and fast,
01:12:52 That one's "The Red Shoes"
01:12:56 and I think most people
01:12:58 that a CV could incorporate
01:13:03 and "Rambo" in the '80s.
01:13:05 I had fun on the "Rambo" picture.
01:13:14 I see you are not a stranger to pain.
01:13:18 Perhaps you have been among
01:13:20 A totally different ball game then,
01:13:23 because, with Sylvester Stallone,
01:13:28 and the film that I made with him
01:13:31 I couldn't try any beautiful composition
01:13:36 But it was successful.
01:13:41 Hurgh!
01:13:45 Jack was the same
01:13:47 dedicated, brilliant creator
01:13:53 He didn't change in all that time,
01:13:56 and he put
01:13:58 and extreme professionalism
01:14:01 into the last film he made
01:14:05 The only other cameraman I worked with
01:14:10 is Sven Nykvist.
01:14:12 Sven is lightning-fast and so is Jack.
01:14:24 He had this box of filters
01:14:28 We were up in North Mexico,
01:14:31 and the sky was really bad, it was like
01:14:35 so he pulled out a little thing and started
01:14:40 and all of a sudden instead of being a
01:14:45 He's just a genius.
01:14:57 Today there's a big difference.
01:14:59 The days when I was working
01:15:04 and any film which had a lot of effects,
01:15:06 I wanted very much to do it myself,
01:15:09 even if it meant, like I said before,
01:15:12 through mist or whatever.
01:15:14 But nowadays anything that comes up,
01:15:19 which is really fantastic,
01:15:22 they say, "Jack, don't worry about that,
01:15:25 So I've always felt a bit left...
01:15:28 Digital imagery looks real,
01:15:34 it lacks the used feeling in a way, it
01:15:39 And then the attack.
01:15:41 But what I'm saying now
01:15:44 because, er...it's already gone,
01:15:48 Today this scene
01:15:50 has been processed in Technicolor.
01:16:03 And cinematography
01:16:08 and it is, I think,
01:16:13 There's no question that it is,
01:16:15 because it involves every element of art
01:16:24 I would like to think
01:16:27 but there's always the stigma of cinema
01:16:33 but those who are, you know,
01:16:35 wonderful literary figures,
01:16:38 will feel that cinema is a popular form,
01:16:46 When I see him,
01:16:55 It reminds me of the eyes
01:17:01 very inquisitive.
01:17:04 How do you get...almost
01:17:08 and try to make that concrete?
01:17:10 An idea that hits you here,
01:17:13 and then you have to translate it
01:17:22 Some people, in an effort to be
01:17:27 "they don't make films
01:17:30 But that's all nonsense.
01:17:33 To me, the standard of photography
01:17:39 Go on, keep going, keep going.
01:17:42 OK, quiet, please, everyone.
01:17:44 See what I'm going for?
01:17:47 - Why don'tyou want to retire?
01:17:52 I've got a big horizon.
01:17:54 There's painting in between,
01:17:56 And hopefully, one of these days,
01:18:00 I'll just drop dead on the film set.
01:18:11 This is the first time
01:18:12 an honorary Oscar has been given
01:18:18 Ladies and gentlemen, it is
01:18:22 Mr. Jack Cardiff.
01:18:42 Thank you.