Countdown To Zero
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Narrator: |
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It makes no sense. " |
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"There is something |
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"Perhaps you can suggest |
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"Couldn't it be this sort of thing?" |
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He turned the drawing around. |
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"Yes," she said, |
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"that is what I mean. " |
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This was the first explanation |
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of the splitting of the atom. |
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Robert Oppenheimer said, "Impossible," |
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but within 15 minutes he decided |
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He realized it would release |
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a great amount of energy, |
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that you could generate power |
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and make bombs. |
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Within a week |
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on Oppenheimer's blackboard |
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there was a crude drawing of the bomb. |
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Enrico Fermi stood in his office |
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and looked out over Manhattan. |
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He cupped his hands |
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"A little bomb like that," he said, |
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"and it would all disappear. " |
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( people screaming ) |
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Valerie Plame Wilson: |
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if terrorists had acquired |
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they would not have hesitated to use it. |
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( sirens wailing ) |
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Wilson: |
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"Could they ever get one?" |
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Al-Qaeda is determined |
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and to use them if they get them. |
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In the early '90s they tried to buy |
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highly-enriched uranium in the Sudan. |
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They got scammed. |
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Just prior to the 9/11 attacks, |
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we do know that Osama Bin Laden |
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and his lieutenant Zawahiri |
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sat down |
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and discussed nuclear weapons. |
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Before releasing the sarin gas |
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the Japanese cult Aum Shinrikyo |
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attempted to acquire |
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They bought a sheep farm |
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to mine uranium |
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Graham Allison: |
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is to, quote, |
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including two million children. " |
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This is, in his calculation, |
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to balance the scales ofjustice. |
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He takes various incidents, |
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from Shatila to the war in Iraq, |
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and counts up the body count and says, |
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"That's how many people |
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You're not gonna get |
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by hijacking airplanes |
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and crashing them into buildings. |
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Actually, I'm not that worried |
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It's not one of my main worries. |
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I do not worry about nuclear weapons. |
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( speaking Chinese ) |
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Isn't everybody worried |
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That's a stupid answer, right? |
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( speaking Russian ) |
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Man: I don't know. |
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something that I've actually had |
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( speaking Chinese ) |
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It might, you know, get on your conscience |
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and then it kind ofjust disappears. |
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( speaking Chinese ) |
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Man: I don't think anybody is |
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ridiculous even to think about it. |
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What can you do? Nothing. |
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At the end of the day, it's one button |
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and there's gonna be a big mess |
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Somebody's gonna make |
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and we're all gonna suffer for it. |
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Rolf Mowatt-Larssen: There are |
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you could steal a bomb; |
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you could buy a bomb; |
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and you could build a bomb. |
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Of all the things I learned |
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after 9/11 about terrorism intent, |
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the most startling discovery |
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was realizing that they were |
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Wilson: |
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is getting the material- |
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the highly-enriched |
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Many countries |
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and often they are poorly guarded. |
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But if I were a terrorist |
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intending to build a nuclear bomb |
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and I wanted to blow up a major city, |
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I would look to the countries |
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There have been many cases |
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of highly-enriched |
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And every time there has been |
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of stolen H.E.U. or plutonium |
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and they were able to track it |
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it came from Russia. |
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Matthew Bunn: |
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in the early 1990s. |
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One of the naval personnel |
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where the highly-enriched |
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This relative walked |
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in a security fence, |
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walked up to what you |
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snapped the padlock with an iron bar. |
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He set off no alarm. |
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He was not detected at all. |
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The Russian military prosecutor |
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"Potatoes were guarded better. " |
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At a facility called Luch |
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where they fabricate fuel |
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made from highly-enriched uranium |
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there was a worker there who knew |
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that as long as the output |
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was within about 3% of the input, |
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they figured it was |
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and they didn't bother |
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So he kept stealing |
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day after day |
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( man speaking Russian ) |
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Eventually he stole a kilogram and a half |
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of 90% enriched |
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He set off no alarms. |
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He had friends |
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stealing car batteries. |
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And they said, |
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who buys our stolen car batteries |
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will buy your stolen uranium. " |
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So they went down |
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and the police came and arrested |
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and he got arrested |
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That's the only way |
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Graham Allison: |
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people from the Russian nuclear arsenal |
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were selling material |
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We have cases in which people |
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were selling material. |
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Bunn: |
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until the material was seized, |
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it had never been noticed |
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All the black-market seizures |
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were serendipitous. |
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They were caught by luck. |
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So that we don't know |
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whether it's the iceberg |
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Wilson: Once you've managed |
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you'd need to smuggle it |
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Lawrence Scott Sheets: |
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along Russia's southern border- |
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a natural corridor. |
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And things like |
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could be smuggled |
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on their way to Azerbaijan, |
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Iraq, Iran, |
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Turkmenistan, Afghanistan |
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and so on and so forth. |
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( Pavlenishvili speaking English ) |
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The Georgians invented a so-called |
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man of Turkish nationality |
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who said he was a Muslim man |
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representing a serious organization. |
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Oleg Khintsagov believed |
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highly-enriched uranium |
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to terrorists. |
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( Khintsagov speaking Russian ) |
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( Pavlenishvili speaking ) |
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Sheets: |
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a small time hustler |
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who just wanted |
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imagine what professionals |
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real professionals |
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with an agenda, with brains. |
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( Pavlenishvili speaking ) |
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Wilson: Once you've moved |
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you could use any number of ports |
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in the Middle East |
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to ship the H.E.U. to your destination. |
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Smuggling highly-enriched |
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is pretty straightfoward. |
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Lead pipe |
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The detector would have to be |
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to pick up any radiation. |
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And then hide it |
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Allison: |
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is smaller than a football. |
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It would fit in a six-pack |
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Bunn: |
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go to the United States every day. |
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Allison: Every way |
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would be the same way |
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highly-enriched uranium coming. |
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If you have any doubt |
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to bring highly-enriched |
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they could always hide it |
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Scott Sagan: |
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the deliberate threat. |
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But there is also |
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of a nuclear detonation |
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by accident, by error |
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or by misjudgment. |
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We'd like to think |
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the U.S. military or other militaries |
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that control nuclear weapons |
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They will never fail. |
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We expect them |
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But even the well-disciplined, |
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very professional |
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made very serious mistakes |
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Newsreel announcer: An atomic bomb |
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in a B47 jet over Florence, |
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causing a sensational freak accident. |
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A B52 bomber was loaded |
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Reporter: An American warplane flew |
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we're told, with six nuclear |
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Reporter #2: And nobody knew- |
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not the commanders |
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Sagan: |
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during a refueling mission, |
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causing the four |
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to fall onto Spanish territory |
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and into the Mediterranean. |
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A B52 bomber |
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crashed near a U.S. |
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scattering deadly plutonium |
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Sagan: |
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a BOMARC air defense missile exploded, |
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melting the nuclear warhead. |
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In 1968, |
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400 miles southwest |
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The nuclear weapons onboard |
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A B47 bomber disappeared |
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The nuclear weapons aboard |
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In 1959, |
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near Whidbey Island, Washington. |
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The nuclear depth charges |
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A Skyhawk strike aircraft |
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rolled off an aircraft carrier |
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The weapon |
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There are many ways in which |
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efforts to make a system |
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actually backfire |
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Sometimes we add |
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We add backup systems |
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so that if one fails, |
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another can take its place. |
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But complexity is |
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because as you add systems |
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it's harder to understand |
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It's that unlikely, bizarre interaction |
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where one person interacts with another |
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in a way that wasn't anticipated |
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or one backup system |
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in ways that you can't |
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and therefore can't plan around- |
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those are what cause the problems. |
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In 1961, a B52 broke apart in midair |
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over Goldsboro, North Carolina, |
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causing two nuclear bombs to fall. |
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One parachute functioned properly, |
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and that bomb survived |
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The other parachute failed to open. |
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When that bomb hit, |
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five of six safety devices |
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A single switch prevented |
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When I worked in the Pentagon, |
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I believed that the likelihood |
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of a nuclear weapons accident |
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in the United States occurring |
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I still believe that. |
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But low-probability events happen. |
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They happen all the time. |
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There's a first time |
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Eventually |
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those low-probability events |
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( people exclaim ) |
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- Woman: Was that supposed to happen? |
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Man: I could probably list |
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Whoo! |
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How many countries |
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- List them? |
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- I don't think I signed up for this. |
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U.K., maybe? |
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America, I'm guessing. |
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Oh, us? |
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- France. |
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- Australia? |
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No? |
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Japan? |
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No, not Japan. |
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There's more. |
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Iraq, Iran, Saudi Arabia. |
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All other countries |
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Afghanistan? |
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- North Korea? |
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Do they? |
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Who knows? |
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I don't know. I'm out. |
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I think that's it. |
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- Yeah. |
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Wilson: |
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the first atomic bomb |
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nuclear technology |
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and other countries |
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their own nuclear bombs. |
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( Russian announcer speaking ) |
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Reporter: Great credit is due |
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for it seems |
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that by the possession |
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peace can be maintained |
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Reporter #2: |
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France goes foward |
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of her first atomic bomb. |
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The explosion carries France |
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towards General de Gaulle's dream |
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of national glory restored. |
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Man: This is a gigantic success |
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Our nation's first nuclear test |
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surpasses the levels |
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of the United States, |
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Their criminal attempt to block |
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from grasping nuclear weapons |
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have been thoroughly smashed. |
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Walter Cronkite: Pakistan, which has |
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hinted it now might have to join |
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the once-select nuclear |
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and warned, |
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will not stop at six. " |
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One prime minister of Pakistan |
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would build a nuclear weapon |
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that the people had to eat grass. |
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"We will make the bomb |
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( men shouting in Arabic ) |
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Reporter: |
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pulling a symbol of the power |
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The bomb has become a huge |
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Pervez Musharraf: |
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the first time |
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which places us in the ranks |
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of very very few countries |
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We were proud of our scientists. |
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We were proud of our capabilities |
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We were proud of our strength. |
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People thought that, |
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"Now let India do anything |
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Let's see what they do. " |
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Mike Chinoy: |
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the lesson they took away |
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from the toppling of Saddam Hussein |
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was that Saddam was ousted |
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because he didn't have a bomb. |
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They were not going to let |
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Therefore, they needed |
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North Korea is scared |
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what the communists used to |
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like all their other |
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And they see nukes |
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that makes them the country |
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that is taken seriously |
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and the other big players |
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Wilson: |
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Every country can use self-defense |
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as a rationale for acquiring |
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But if every country does so, |
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it is a much more dangerous world. |
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Oppenheimer: When you see |
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you do it. |
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That is the way it was |
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Film narrator: The father |
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gave some frank answers |
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Oppenheimer: |
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whether in the years |
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to kill 40 million American people |
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in the 20 largest American towns |
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by the use of atomic bombs |
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I am afraid that the answer |
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I have been asked |
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for the nation's security |
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in keeping secret |
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which has gone into |
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I am afraid there is no such hope. |
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Alexander Glaser: |
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is the most simple configuration |
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of nuclear material |
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You just bring together |
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a certain quantity |
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highly-enriched uranium |
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and if you do it right, |
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Hoodbhoy: |
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was a very deep secret. |
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In fact, that was a time |
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when people didn't even know |
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whether a bomb was possible. |
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Now the making of the atom bomb |
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Joseph Biden: Those who say |
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they're very wrong. |
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But those who say building |
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they are more wrong. |
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Would you agree with that statement? |
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I won't comment on that statement, sir. |
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Bunn: People from the U.S. |
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were testifying |
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And they said |
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to make a nuclear bomb |
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with all the parts |
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except for the actual |
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Allison: |
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the heads of the three weapons labs, |
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"Is this possible? Is it really possible |
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And they said yes. |
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that we test our graduate |
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We take two graduate students |
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who haven't been prepared |
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We tell them, 'See if you can |
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Lo and behold, |
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Bunn: |
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And so they went |
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with everything other than |
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They actually brought it |
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into the classified |
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Typically, an implosion bomb |
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something like 25kg of uranium, |
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which is about the size |
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If, let's say, |
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between 70kg and 100kg of H.E.U. |
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is available, |
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then the design is not |
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It would not be very efficient. |
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It would not use all the uranium |
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that was used in it. |
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And yet it could be enough |
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Tony Blair: |
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what I really noticed |
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the threat of the proliferation, |
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the fact that these weapons could fall |
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into other people's hands- |
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that was the thing that troubled me, |
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that kept me awake at night. |
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Reporter: |
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word hit the streets |
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another nuclear device |
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( crowd cheering ) |
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Reporter #2: |
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the public hailed A.Q. Khan |
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as the father of the Islamic bomb. |
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Andrew Koch: In 1974 |
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that was developing |
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He stole their designs |
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and took the list |
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At the end of the day, |
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but he's a master smuggler |
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He knows how to get the pieces |
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and how to find stuff and buy stuff. |
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Ahmed Rashid: There was |
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that was set up |
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by the army and by Dr. Khan. |
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Restrictions were placed. |
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But somehow the Pakistanis |
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And the formal help actually came |
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China gave a blueprint |
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of a nuclear bomb to Pakistan. |
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Koch: |
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Khan makes contact |
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who are very interested |
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but clearly don't have the scientific |
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or industrial capacity |
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And thus he starts |
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Khan has got a full marketing |
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with brochures and videotapes |
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Wilson: |
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He had extensive contacts, networks, |
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and he didn't much care about |
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who the ultimate client |
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Joe Cirincione: |
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North Korea, Libya. |
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But he didn't just give them |
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He also took the bomb designs |
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and threw those in as a sweetener. |
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He gave them |
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Got a problem? |
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It was a full-service operation. |
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Wilson: |
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began to focus |
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The home run was |
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Rashid: |
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essentially caught |
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selling a full-scale |
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Cirincione: |
00:35:23 |
Libya never would have |
00:35:25 |
that they've now, thankfully, given up. |
00:35:27 |
If it wasn't for A.Q. Khan, |
00:35:30 |
there wouldn't be |
00:35:34 |
( applause ) |
00:35:37 |
Iran is the tip of the spear. |
00:35:39 |
It's the big problem |
00:35:44 |
They promised not to build |
00:35:48 |
But the problem is that |
00:35:52 |
the very same factory |
00:35:54 |
to low quantities for nuclear fuel |
00:35:57 |
can enrich it to high quantities |
00:36:01 |
So the question is, |
00:36:04 |
( crowd cheering ) |
00:36:06 |
By their own admission, |
00:36:10 |
about their nuclear activities |
00:36:16 |
( Ahmadinejad speaking Farsi ) |
00:36:35 |
Wilson: Without question, |
00:36:37 |
They've made that very clear, |
00:36:39 |
despite their promises |
00:36:42 |
civilian, peaceful objectives |
00:36:45 |
for their nuclear program. |
00:36:47 |
They're really good at trying |
00:36:49 |
that can be used |
00:36:52 |
The Iranians have worked very hard |
00:36:55 |
at disguising |
00:36:58 |
Many of their facilities are |
00:37:00 |
in crowded urban areas |
00:37:02 |
extremely well-protected |
00:37:06 |
Tony Blair: If Iran were |
00:37:09 |
the impact is across |
00:37:12 |
You will get a whole set |
00:37:14 |
deciding they've got to acquire |
00:37:18 |
Cirincione: |
00:37:22 |
the rivals of the Iranian Shia state |
00:37:25 |
would match their capabilities |
00:37:27 |
and we would go from a Middle East |
00:37:28 |
with one nuclear-armed nation- Israel- |
00:37:31 |
to one with three, four or five |
00:37:34 |
Wilson: |
00:37:37 |
very unstable regimes |
00:37:40 |
If Iran acquires everything it needs, |
00:37:42 |
without doubt, pieces of that |
00:37:44 |
become more readily available |
00:37:46 |
to terrorist organizations like Hamas. |
00:37:53 |
Tony Blair: |
00:37:56 |
with a regime like Iran or North Korea |
00:38:00 |
is they are prepared to start trading |
00:38:03 |
that nuclear weapons capability |
00:38:07 |
Chinoy: |
00:38:10 |
They didn't have the delivery system. |
00:38:12 |
The North Koreans had the missile |
00:38:14 |
and didn't have the nuclear know-how. |
00:38:16 |
So there was a natural convergence |
00:38:21 |
The North Koreans have |
00:38:23 |
of selling military technology |
00:38:26 |
to the Syrians, to the Iranians, |
00:38:28 |
to the Iraqis, to the Pakistanis. |
00:38:30 |
They don't really have |
00:38:36 |
Daily life is very grim. |
00:38:39 |
Food is in short supply. |
00:38:41 |
You drive around |
00:38:44 |
and it's basically dark. |
00:38:46 |
There's a famous satellite photo |
00:38:48 |
that shows |
00:38:51 |
And in the South you see |
00:38:53 |
and then it's just black. |
00:38:58 |
Wilson: |
00:39:01 |
his years of unchecked activity |
00:39:05 |
And it really is |
00:39:08 |
that cannot be easily put back. |
00:39:25 |
Cirincione: |
00:39:28 |
putting in radiation detectors, |
00:39:31 |
but highly-enriched uranium |
00:39:37 |
If you are depending |
00:39:40 |
to defend a city |
00:39:44 |
you have done |
00:39:48 |
Nuclear weapons |
00:39:51 |
don't have to be exactly on target. |
00:39:54 |
Close is good enough. |
00:39:56 |
If a terrorist thinks that the portal monitor |
00:39:59 |
they set it off in the port. |
00:40:03 |
Bunn: Highly-enriched uranium |
00:40:06 |
The radiation is very weak. |
00:40:17 |
The detectors |
00:40:20 |
would have no chance of detecting |
00:40:22 |
highly-enriched uranium |
00:40:32 |
Cirincione: The signature |
00:40:36 |
that they have to set the monitors |
00:40:39 |
And so they're getting thousands |
00:40:44 |
Toilets will set it off- |
00:40:47 |
ceramics, |
00:40:50 |
a lot of biological materials |
00:40:52 |
like tobacco, some algae, |
00:40:55 |
televisions- |
00:40:58 |
kitty litter, |
00:41:01 |
and a lot of other stuff also. |
00:41:09 |
You want to smuggle |
00:41:12 |
Ship it in a truck with kitty litter. |
00:41:15 |
No one would ever find it. |
00:41:18 |
Bunn: |
00:41:22 |
like cesium or something |
00:41:24 |
that might be used in a dirty bomb. |
00:41:26 |
But for the stuff that you would use |
00:41:29 |
that would incinerate |
00:41:31 |
they're not gonna detect that. |
00:41:39 |
Mowatt-Larssen: |
00:41:42 |
he appeared |
00:41:44 |
And one of the senators asked him |
00:41:46 |
if nuclear terrorism |
00:41:50 |
He said, "Of course. |
00:41:52 |
Terrorists could bring a bomb |
00:41:55 |
and destroy the city. " |
00:41:57 |
Somebody asked him, |
00:42:01 |
He said, |
00:42:03 |
to open up every container |
00:42:19 |
Jeffrey Lewis: Once you've smuggled |
00:42:22 |
into the U.S., you will need |
00:42:25 |
The bomb could be built |
00:42:30 |
The hard part was |
00:42:33 |
The hard part is doing it |
00:42:37 |
This is no longer |
00:42:39 |
There is no trick. |
00:42:40 |
There is no magic that needs |
00:42:43 |
It's really just |
00:42:45 |
It's definitely not rocket science. |
00:42:47 |
Rocket science is hard. |
00:42:50 |
Glaser: |
00:42:52 |
a so-called "gun-type" weapon |
00:42:54 |
which was the one used |
00:42:56 |
Lewis: |
00:42:58 |
we didn't even test it |
00:43:02 |
It is essentially |
00:43:04 |
And you have a target. |
00:43:07 |
And you propel the projectile |
00:43:12 |
You'll need |
00:43:14 |
to fire one piece of H.E.U. |
00:43:17 |
which would be bolted onto |
00:43:21 |
The military sells |
00:43:24 |
but they sell them |
00:43:26 |
You would have to make the gun |
00:43:29 |
And you'd want |
00:43:31 |
that it fired the projectile |
00:43:34 |
This is the only thing |
00:43:38 |
You would need |
00:43:40 |
let's say, |
00:43:43 |
who would be knowledgeable |
00:43:46 |
of weapons design, of explosives. |
00:43:50 |
Two or three people |
00:43:52 |
two or three people to work |
00:43:54 |
two or three people |
00:43:56 |
people who are experts in ballistics. |
00:44:00 |
People who know something |
00:44:02 |
You'd need the machinists |
00:44:04 |
to make your pieces |
00:44:06 |
and make sure |
00:44:08 |
Hoodbhoy: |
00:44:10 |
maybe some electronic equipment. |
00:44:13 |
Lewis: |
00:44:14 |
and easily find the lathe for $10,000. |
00:44:17 |
You can find the furnace |
00:44:20 |
And you can even find |
00:44:23 |
probably also for $10,000. |
00:44:26 |
Bunn: More than 90% |
00:44:30 |
was making the nuclear material |
00:44:32 |
to make the nuclear bomb. |
00:44:35 |
If you can get hold of |
00:44:37 |
then it doesn't take |
00:44:54 |
Mowatt-Larssen: |
00:44:56 |
acquiring a complete bomb |
00:45:00 |
In Algeria in 1961, |
00:45:03 |
officers within |
00:45:06 |
and tried to seize a nuclear weapon. |
00:45:08 |
As the rebels closed in, |
00:45:10 |
the weapon was detonated |
00:45:13 |
to prevent it |
00:45:15 |
of the rebelling officers. |
00:45:17 |
( explosion ) |
00:45:26 |
Mowatt-Larssen: The Japanese |
00:45:29 |
attempted to buy a nuclear bomb |
00:45:33 |
They had a lot of resources. |
00:45:36 |
We're talking well over |
00:45:39 |
And secondly, |
00:45:41 |
At one point the group had |
00:45:44 |
in the former Soviet Union |
00:45:49 |
In 1994 a senior leader |
00:45:52 |
made eight trips to Russia. |
00:45:54 |
His personal notebook |
00:45:57 |
for buying a nuclear warhead |
00:46:03 |
Hoodbhoy: |
00:46:05 |
is also a perfectly unusable one. |
00:46:07 |
So here one has this paradox |
00:46:09 |
between security and usability. |
00:46:15 |
Cirincione: |
00:46:17 |
in the world right now? |
00:46:20 |
For my money, it is Pakistan. |
00:46:22 |
You've got an unstable government, |
00:46:24 |
plus enough material |
00:46:27 |
plus Osama Bin Laden |
00:46:31 |
( man speaking Urdu |
00:46:39 |
Rashid: |
00:46:41 |
over the last two or three years |
00:46:43 |
has been a spiral |
00:46:47 |
destabilization, |
00:46:49 |
the spread of radicalism, |
00:46:54 |
So could there be |
00:46:57 |
by Islamic radicals |
00:46:59 |
And then could |
00:47:04 |
Cirincione: |
00:47:08 |
What happens if the army splits? |
00:47:11 |
Who gets the weapons? |
00:47:13 |
Who gets the material |
00:47:15 |
Who gets the scientists |
00:47:17 |
who know how to build |
00:47:25 |
Bruce Blair: |
00:47:29 |
and control over nuclear weapons |
00:47:31 |
even in the most |
00:47:39 |
From the level |
00:47:42 |
there are human weaknesses, |
00:47:44 |
technical problems, |
00:47:46 |
deficiencies and vulnerabilities. |
00:47:54 |
I was a launch officer |
00:47:59 |
and spent three years |
00:48:02 |
in an underground |
00:48:11 |
I was one of the guys responsible |
00:48:14 |
for getting these missiles |
00:48:17 |
We didn't call them |
00:48:29 |
When I was serving |
00:48:31 |
in the air force |
00:48:34 |
there was a device |
00:48:37 |
into which 12 digits |
00:48:40 |
in order to unlock |
00:48:43 |
This had been installed |
00:48:46 |
over the objections |
00:48:49 |
Since they couldn't prevent |
00:48:52 |
the panel from being installed, |
00:48:54 |
the Strategic Air Command in Omaha |
00:48:57 |
had set these codes to zero, |
00:49:00 |
That was the secret |
00:49:03 |
for firing our missiles- |
00:49:05 |
12 zeros. |
00:49:08 |
In fact, |
00:49:10 |
we had to ensure |
00:49:12 |
that the unlock code |
00:49:15 |
before we completed |
00:49:18 |
( panel clicking ) |
00:49:23 |
This changed in 1977 |
00:49:26 |
when they started using |
00:49:28 |
But until then, |
00:49:32 |
could have actually formatted |
00:49:35 |
a completely valid launch order |
00:49:38 |
and transmitted it |
00:49:40 |
to the entire American |
00:49:43 |
It looks like |
00:49:45 |
Aw hell. |
00:49:48 |
Are the Russians involved, sir? |
00:49:50 |
Mandrake, that's all I've been told. |
00:49:51 |
It just came in on the red phone. |
00:49:53 |
My orders are for this base |
00:49:54 |
and that's what I mean to do- |
00:49:56 |
Now I want you to transmit Plan R- |
00:50:00 |
R for Robert- to the wing. |
00:50:03 |
- Plan R, for Robert. |
00:50:06 |
- It looks like it's pretty hairy. |
00:50:09 |
Bruce Blair: |
00:50:11 |
and thinking |
00:50:13 |
You don't need to be a general. |
00:50:16 |
We were only lieutenants, |
00:50:18 |
but we could've started World War lll |
00:50:20 |
just as easily |
00:50:22 |
We could have triggered implementation |
00:50:25 |
of the U.S. nuclear war plan |
00:50:27 |
involving thousands |
00:50:30 |
fired at the Soviet Union and China. |
00:50:33 |
Man over speaker: |
00:50:36 |
Alfa Tango Golf Lima. |
00:50:40 |
Bruce Blair: |
00:50:42 |
is really kind of Pavlovian. |
00:50:44 |
You have been trained |
00:50:47 |
you kind of march lockstep |
00:50:49 |
into a very well-rehearsed script |
00:50:53 |
that's driven by checklists. |
00:50:55 |
Man: |
00:50:58 |
Roger. |
00:50:59 |
Bruce Blair: |
00:51:02 |
take out codes... |
00:51:04 |
( alarm blaring ) |
00:51:08 |
...check the codes |
00:51:11 |
then proceed through |
00:51:13 |
that takes about one minute |
00:51:17 |
Man: Let's enable the missiles. |
00:51:21 |
- Roger. |
00:51:22 |
Online code inserted. |
00:51:23 |
Stand by. |
00:51:26 |
Online codes inserted. |
00:51:28 |
- Enable switch enabled. |
00:51:30 |
Bruce Blair: |
00:51:32 |
the two of you turn keys |
00:51:34 |
and launch up to 50 missiles |
00:51:36 |
at the Soviet Union and/or China. |
00:51:54 |
Today, the posture |
00:51:58 |
is exactly the same |
00:52:02 |
So if the orders went down right now, |
00:52:04 |
20 years after the fall |
00:52:08 |
it would take about two minutes |
00:52:10 |
to launch all |
00:52:15 |
out of their tubes in the Midwest, |
00:52:17 |
about that length of time |
00:52:19 |
for the Russians to do the same. |
00:52:21 |
And then it would take |
00:52:24 |
for everything else |
00:52:27 |
to be fired... |
00:52:39 |
so that within 15 minutes |
00:52:43 |
all of the forces |
00:52:45 |
would be in the air |
00:52:47 |
on their flight to the other |
00:52:50 |
2000 bombs, |
00:52:53 |
strategic nuclear weapons, |
00:52:56 |
And they could kill |
00:53:00 |
over 100 million Russians |
00:53:02 |
within 30 minutes. |
00:53:12 |
Roger Molander: When we were |
00:53:14 |
I found myself in a meeting |
00:53:18 |
and we got into a short |
00:53:20 |
And in the context |
00:53:23 |
"But I don't understand |
00:53:25 |
if there were |
00:53:28 |
Only about 500 million |
00:53:30 |
Life would go on aftewards. " |
00:53:35 |
And I can remember |
00:53:37 |
like Woody Allen |
00:53:40 |
"I'm sorry, I've got an appointment |
00:54:16 |
Man: |
00:54:18 |
how many nuclear weapons |
00:54:23 |
- I haven't got a- |
00:54:27 |
100? |
00:54:29 |
Maybe thousands, I don't know. |
00:54:35 |
6,000. |
00:54:39 |
I don't know. |
00:54:41 |
- 20,000. |
00:54:43 |
- 100,000. |
00:54:45 |
There's enough nuclear firepower |
00:54:49 |
to annihilate probably |
00:54:53 |
I've heard people say |
00:54:55 |
that we have enough nuclear |
00:54:57 |
It only takes a couple |
00:55:00 |
Do you know |
00:55:07 |
Cirincione: We estimate that |
00:55:11 |
in the world still. |
00:55:15 |
The good news is |
00:55:19 |
So we've cut those arsenals |
00:55:22 |
But we- the United States still has |
00:55:25 |
about 1500 hydrogen bombs |
00:55:29 |
poised for launch |
00:55:33 |
The really bad news is |
00:55:41 |
Bruce Blair: |
00:55:44 |
at the United States, |
00:55:48 |
the first warning |
00:55:52 |
And they could detect |
00:55:54 |
the flame from the booster rocket |
00:55:56 |
within seconds, |
00:55:58 |
easily within a minute. |
00:56:01 |
Suddenly this early-warning hub |
00:56:04 |
in the United States |
00:56:06 |
would become very frenzied |
00:56:08 |
to try to figure out |
00:56:10 |
whether this is a false alarm |
00:56:12 |
or whether this is a real attack, |
00:56:14 |
and determine this |
00:56:21 |
The president would receive a briefing |
00:56:26 |
from the duty officer |
00:56:29 |
at Strategic Command Headquarters. |
00:56:32 |
That briefing of the president |
00:56:34 |
of his response options |
00:56:38 |
has to be delivered |
00:56:46 |
The president |
00:56:48 |
no more than 12 minutes |
00:56:50 |
and maybe as little as 10 seconds. |
00:56:56 |
Jimmy Carter: I knew |
00:57:00 |
that it would take 26 minutes |
00:57:03 |
to leave Russian soil |
00:57:05 |
and land in Washington |
00:57:08 |
And I had that much time |
00:57:15 |
( Gorbachev speaking Russian ) |
00:57:37 |
Zbigniew Brzezinski: |
00:57:40 |
He had just a few minutes |
00:57:42 |
how to respond, |
00:57:47 |
Somewhere before the 10th minute |
00:57:50 |
the order to execute would be issued. |
00:57:55 |
Strategic Air Command |
00:57:57 |
probably would be |
00:58:00 |
just as a precaution. |
00:58:06 |
There might be |
00:58:09 |
so that the president would survive |
00:58:11 |
an attack on Washington, |
00:58:15 |
although I know of cases |
00:58:17 |
in which the president chose |
00:58:21 |
And roughly by the 28th minute |
00:58:24 |
at the latest, |
00:58:26 |
those of us not evacuated |
00:58:39 |
Bruce Blair: |
00:58:42 |
Any missile landing |
00:58:46 |
would probably have killed us. |
00:58:48 |
If we had survived the attack, |
00:58:51 |
we were supposed to go |
00:58:55 |
Our air would only last 24 hours. |
00:58:59 |
So we'd go out through an escape tube |
00:59:02 |
which was filled with sand. |
00:59:04 |
We would have to release |
00:59:06 |
and let the sand fall through |
00:59:09 |
and then crawl up the tube. |
00:59:13 |
Our tube came up |
00:59:16 |
so we would have to |
00:59:22 |
The rendezvous point |
00:59:26 |
and you'd have to walk. |
00:59:31 |
Didn't really matter though. |
00:59:34 |
Everyone knew the radiation |
00:59:37 |
and you'd never make it |
01:00:08 |
Cirincione: |
01:00:12 |
the U.S. Open and Wimbledon; |
01:00:15 |
George Clooney made |
01:00:19 |
a bomb destroyed |
01:00:23 |
O.J. Simpson was |
01:00:27 |
and we also came close |
01:00:29 |
to an accidental |
01:00:35 |
Ira Helfand: |
01:00:38 |
the United States launched |
01:00:40 |
to study the northern lights. |
01:00:43 |
We told the Russians |
01:00:45 |
but somebody in Moscow |
01:00:49 |
When they picked up |
01:00:52 |
they initially interpreted this |
01:00:54 |
as four warheads |
01:00:58 |
which we often station |
01:01:00 |
possibly directed at Moscow. |
01:01:03 |
That fit exactly the characteristics |
01:01:06 |
of the beginning of a nuclear strike: |
01:01:08 |
One missile coming over, |
01:01:10 |
exploding in the atmosphere |
01:01:12 |
sending out an electromagnetic pulse |
01:01:14 |
that would fry all the electronics- |
01:01:16 |
radar, surveillance, computers- |
01:01:18 |
in the country to be attacked, |
01:01:20 |
followed by an onslaught |
01:01:24 |
And for the first time |
01:01:27 |
the Russians actually opened up |
01:01:30 |
They went to President Yeltsin; |
01:01:31 |
the command and control |
01:01:34 |
put it on the desk and said, |
01:01:37 |
Helfand: |
01:01:39 |
five minutes |
01:01:42 |
Fortunately, Yeltsin wasn't drunk |
01:01:44 |
and he didn't believe |
01:01:47 |
He said, |
01:01:49 |
Both the U.S. and Russia guide |
01:01:53 |
with a doctrine called |
01:01:55 |
It is the policy that if you believe |
01:01:58 |
you're supposed to launch your missiles. |
01:02:01 |
According to Russian military doctrine, |
01:02:04 |
Boris Yeltsin should have launched |
01:02:06 |
on the United States that morning. |
01:02:08 |
We don't know what happened |
01:02:11 |
All we know is that he didn't. |
01:02:19 |
Cirincione: |
01:02:21 |
during the Cold War. |
01:02:23 |
We've had occasions |
01:02:27 |
was interpreted to be |
01:02:32 |
A flock of geese was thought |
01:02:37 |
A training tape was |
01:02:42 |
at our command and control |
01:02:45 |
Everyone involved thought |
01:02:47 |
there was an actual attack underway. |
01:02:49 |
Bruce Blair: |
01:02:52 |
the early warning hub in Colorado |
01:02:54 |
that simulated |
01:02:58 |
And no one realized |
01:03:00 |
that it was just a training tape |
01:03:02 |
until the United States had gone into |
01:03:05 |
this sort of frenzied |
01:03:08 |
to prepare for nuclear war. |
01:03:18 |
Airborne command posts actually |
01:03:20 |
in some cases took off. |
01:03:22 |
The president's doomsday plane |
01:03:24 |
actually left its base in preparation |
01:03:29 |
for an incoming Soviet strike. |
01:03:32 |
Senator Charles Percy |
01:03:34 |
happened to be there at the time |
01:03:37 |
and said there was absolute panic. |
01:03:39 |
( alarm blaring ) |
01:03:45 |
Bruce Blair: |
01:03:48 |
by a computer chip malfunction |
01:03:50 |
that generated indications |
01:03:52 |
of a large-scale Soviet attack. |
01:03:55 |
We raised the alert levels. |
01:03:59 |
Crews took launch codes |
01:04:02 |
They inserted keys into |
01:04:09 |
Cirincione: |
01:04:11 |
was woken up |
01:04:13 |
with the assured instruction |
01:04:15 |
that a nuclear attack |
01:04:17 |
and he had to go wake up |
01:04:21 |
There was eight minutes' worth |
01:04:23 |
of nuclear launch preparations |
01:04:26 |
that were triggered |
01:04:28 |
by a malfunctioning computer chip |
01:04:31 |
that cost less than a dollar. |
01:04:35 |
Frank Von Hippel: You know, |
01:04:39 |
is an accident waiting to happen. |
01:04:41 |
You know, as Fermi said about physics, |
01:04:46 |
"What isn't forbidden is compulsory," |
01:04:49 |
will eventually happen. |
01:04:52 |
There's nothing that makes |
01:04:55 |
the launch |
01:04:58 |
If the probability isn't zero, |
01:05:00 |
it will happen. |
01:05:11 |
( siren blaring ) |
01:05:44 |
# Reckoner... # |
01:05:56 |
R. Scott Kemp: |
01:05:58 |
that is based heavily |
01:06:00 |
you keep something secret |
01:06:03 |
But secrecy has a half-life. |
01:06:05 |
Things leak out. |
01:06:08 |
Centrifuges happen to be |
01:06:12 |
that is going to change the game. |
01:06:15 |
They are going to democratize |
01:06:18 |
the process of building |
01:06:22 |
Uranium exists everywhere on earth. |
01:06:26 |
It's more common than tin. |
01:06:31 |
99.3% of all uranium |
01:06:34 |
the isotope that cannot be |
01:06:37 |
It's that 0.7% that you need |
01:06:43 |
A centrifuge- it's basically a tube. |
01:06:47 |
It spins the uranium |
01:06:49 |
and it pushes |
01:06:53 |
and the lighter atoms |
01:06:55 |
And then you can skim off |
01:07:02 |
And you do this over |
01:07:06 |
many dozens of times |
01:07:09 |
and eventually you purify it |
01:07:11 |
to a level that you can |
01:07:16 |
The common wisdom is |
01:07:22 |
technologies that take |
01:07:24 |
and are the highest achievements. |
01:07:26 |
But the fact is that centrifuges are |
01:07:28 |
1950s technology. |
01:07:30 |
And this is 2010. |
01:07:34 |
Enriching uranium is still |
01:07:36 |
beyond the reach of the individual. |
01:07:38 |
It's a logistical feat, |
01:07:40 |
requiring thousands of centrifuges |
01:07:42 |
working for months or years. |
01:07:45 |
But highly-enriched uranium |
01:07:48 |
is now within the grasp |
01:07:51 |
And once you have the H.E.U., |
01:07:53 |
making a crude bomb is easy. |
01:08:01 |
( Gorbachev speaking Russian ) |
01:08:33 |
Ronald Reagan: |
01:08:36 |
on a further increase |
01:08:39 |
We seek instead |
01:08:43 |
We seek the total elimination one day |
01:08:47 |
of nuclear weapons |
01:10:47 |
Crowd: |
01:10:50 |
seven, six, five, |
01:10:53 |
four, three, two, one! |
01:10:57 |
( crowd cheering, |
01:11:01 |
# Somewhere # |
01:11:04 |
# Over the rainbow # |
01:11:07 |
# Way up high... # |
01:11:12 |
Man: |
01:11:15 |
# Dreams that you dream... # |
01:11:18 |
Man #2: |
01:11:21 |
# Once in a lullaby # |
01:11:26 |
- # Somewhere # |
01:11:29 |
# Over the rainbow # |
01:11:33 |
# Bluebirds fly... # |
01:11:37 |
Cirincione: |
01:11:39 |
the fireball is 500' across. |
01:11:42 |
Within 10 seconds, |
01:11:44 |
it would grow to over one mile. |
01:11:47 |
Helfand: The temperature |
01:11:50 |
hotter than the surface of the sun. |
01:11:52 |
The blast would generate winds |
01:11:54 |
in excess of 650mph. |
01:11:57 |
Forces of that magnitude can destroy |
01:11:59 |
anything that people can build. |
01:12:01 |
Cirincione: The strongest buildings |
01:12:04 |
Tens of square blocks |
01:12:06 |
would just be melted, |
01:12:09 |
Helfand: |
01:12:12 |
the buildings, the cars, |
01:12:14 |
the trees, the people, |
01:12:17 |
the upper level of the earth itself. |
01:12:19 |
( crowd continues cheering ) |
01:12:32 |
Cirincione: There were |
01:12:35 |
70,000 of them |
01:12:38 |
The hospitals, |
01:12:40 |
the communication equipment |
01:12:43 |
everything just flattened. |
01:12:45 |
Leaning: |
01:12:47 |
virtually everyone |
01:12:51 |
Somewhere between |
01:12:53 |
dead immediately |
01:12:56 |
Cirincione: |
01:12:58 |
to be eight or nine miles |
01:13:00 |
then you would experience it |
01:13:02 |
as blast effects- |
01:13:05 |
Helfand: |
01:13:07 |
and turn it into hundreds |
01:13:09 |
from the center of the explosion |
01:13:12 |
Cirincione: |
01:13:14 |
that would just combust |
01:13:16 |
Helfand: |
01:13:18 |
Paper, cardboard, cloth, |
01:13:20 |
heating oil, gasoline- |
01:13:22 |
Oelrich: |
01:13:24 |
Helfand: Hundreds of thousands |
01:13:27 |
into a giant firestorm 11 miles across. |
01:13:29 |
Oelrich: Everything catches on fire. |
01:13:32 |
Helfand: All the oxygen would |
01:13:37 |
Leaning: |
01:13:39 |
will you die because |
01:13:42 |
or because you've been blown |
01:13:44 |
Molander: |
01:13:46 |
of the nuclear explosion- |
01:13:49 |
Helfand: Lungs or eardrums |
01:13:51 |
crush injuries from buildings |
01:13:54 |
broken bones when they've been |
01:13:57 |
Hundreds of thousands, |
01:13:59 |
would die from the fallout. |
01:14:01 |
Leaning: The body does have |
01:14:04 |
But the doses are so heavy |
01:14:07 |
that it will overwhelm |
01:14:10 |
The 450 to 700 RAD dose kills you |
01:14:12 |
because it wipes out |
01:14:15 |
Over 3000 RADs- |
01:14:18 |
and you will die within a matter |
01:14:21 |
Helfand: |
01:14:23 |
Most of the nurses are |
01:14:25 |
Most of the hospitals |
01:14:27 |
Huge numbers of casualties |
01:14:30 |
Leaning: |
01:14:32 |
tens of units of blood per person. |
01:14:34 |
Oelrich: |
01:14:36 |
Leaning: |
01:14:38 |
to sustain people who've been |
01:14:40 |
Oelrich: |
01:14:42 |
Leaning: And then at a certain point |
01:14:45 |
it's pointless to try to make |
01:14:48 |
The doctor in the Red Cross hospital |
01:14:50 |
who turns into an automaton, |
01:14:52 |
binding, swabbing, daubing, |
01:14:55 |
binding, swabbing, |
01:14:58 |
And that's what descended |
01:15:01 |
in Hiroshima and Nagasaki. |
01:15:03 |
Bunn: Someone would |
01:15:06 |
that were already hidden somewhere |
01:15:09 |
and they'd start setting them off |
01:15:12 |
Molander: |
01:15:14 |
whether they might be a target. |
01:15:16 |
Bunn: Public panic, |
01:15:19 |
You could forget about rules |
01:15:21 |
You're gonna have to be |
01:15:24 |
You can forget about civil liberties |
01:15:26 |
when people realize |
01:15:29 |
Cirincione: You'd take the Bill of Rights, |
01:15:32 |
and you might never see it again. |
01:15:34 |
People would be demanding |
01:15:36 |
to make sure |
01:16:10 |
Oppenheimer: |
01:16:13 |
A few people cried. |
01:16:17 |
Most people were silent. |
01:16:22 |
I remembered the line |
01:16:25 |
from the Hindu scripture, |
01:16:31 |
Vishnu |
01:16:35 |
is trying to persuade the prince |
01:16:38 |
that he should do his duty |
01:16:41 |
and to impress him |
01:16:44 |
takes on his multiarmed form |
01:16:47 |
and says, |
01:16:50 |
"Now I am become Death, |
01:16:52 |
the destroyer of worlds. " |
01:17:17 |
John F. Kennedy: |
01:17:20 |
lives under |
01:17:24 |
hanging by the slenderest of threads |
01:17:27 |
capable of being cut at any moment |
01:17:30 |
by accident or miscalculation |
01:17:34 |
The weapons of war |
01:17:38 |
before they abolish us. |
01:17:49 |
( sirens wailing ) |
01:17:55 |
Robert McNamara: |
01:17:58 |
the very existence of our nation. |
01:18:01 |
We came that close to nuclear war. |
01:18:07 |
Neither the Soviets nor we, the U.S., |
01:18:11 |
intended to put our nations at that risk. |
01:18:14 |
And the next time |
01:18:19 |
They kill by the millions. |
01:18:23 |
that the human imagination |
01:18:25 |
simply cannot comprehend. |
01:18:28 |
Rev. Richard Cizik: I used to think, |
01:18:31 |
in order to prevent their use. " |
01:18:33 |
We now know we live in a world in which |
01:18:35 |
if we possess them, |
01:18:37 |
if anyone possesses them, |
01:18:40 |
I don't see any good that a nuclear weapon |
01:18:44 |
In my opinion, you can forget them. |
01:18:46 |
I think they should be destroyed. |
01:18:49 |
I think we'd be better off without 'em. |
01:18:51 |
There's 183 countries in the world |
01:18:53 |
that do not have nuclear weapons. |
01:18:55 |
Many of these countries |
01:18:57 |
They've chosen not to. |
01:19:01 |
F.W. de Klerk: |
01:19:03 |
to take a 180áµ turn in South Africa. |
01:19:06 |
When I became president, |
01:19:09 |
that we had completed six devices |
01:19:12 |
more or less comparable to the bombs |
01:19:15 |
which were actually used at Hiroshima. |
01:19:17 |
I indicated |
01:19:20 |
that I would like us |
01:19:23 |
and to become part |
01:19:26 |
Wilson: |
01:19:28 |
the threat of nuclear terrorism |
01:19:30 |
is to eliminate all nuclear weapons |
01:19:33 |
We've got to ensure that never once |
01:19:36 |
do terrorists succeed |
01:19:38 |
in detonating a nuclear weapon. |
01:19:40 |
Thomas D'Agostino: |
01:19:43 |
it's all about the material. |
01:19:45 |
The simple physical fact is |
01:19:47 |
that if you don't have |
01:19:50 |
either highly-enriched uranium |
01:19:53 |
then you cannot have |
01:19:55 |
The focus is all about the material. |
01:19:59 |
Stop making new material. |
01:20:01 |
Secure the material where |
01:20:05 |
And make sure that you detect |
01:20:08 |
And then start getting rid |
01:20:11 |
Glaser: Today in the world |
01:20:15 |
So that's enough material |
01:20:18 |
on the order of |
01:20:20 |
and to really create |
01:20:22 |
a truly international system |
01:20:25 |
Sagan: |
01:20:27 |
or international reprocessing centers- |
01:20:29 |
that'd be a much safer world. |
01:20:31 |
We haven't lost an ounce |
01:20:34 |
We shouldn't lose |
01:20:36 |
or highly-enriched uranium. |
01:20:39 |
Bruce Blair: |
01:20:41 |
in the value of nuclear weapons |
01:20:45 |
20 years after the fall |
01:20:48 |
there's no excuse any longer |
01:20:50 |
for keeping nuclear weapons |
01:20:53 |
We can remove |
01:20:55 |
all of the warheads on our missiles, |
01:20:57 |
share our safeguards technology |
01:21:00 |
and establish a joint warning center |
01:21:03 |
to ensure nuclear war |
01:21:07 |
Richard Burt: When I came |
01:21:11 |
the idea that within about 10 years |
01:21:14 |
both sides would have agreed |
01:21:16 |
to a 50% reduction |
01:21:19 |
would have sounded absurd. |
01:21:22 |
That means a reduction |
01:21:24 |
of more than 5,000 |
01:21:29 |
We have gone almost 20 years now |
01:21:32 |
without any really demonstrative steps |
01:21:36 |
to nuclear reductions. |
01:21:38 |
Cirincione: |
01:21:43 |
That's how we did it |
01:21:46 |
These weapons are now taboo. |
01:21:50 |
James Baker lll: The Soviet Union |
01:21:53 |
And we actually got |
01:21:56 |
where we got Belarus, |
01:21:59 |
to give up their nuclear weapons. |
01:22:02 |
All countries in the world have to sign |
01:22:04 |
a legally binding, |
01:22:07 |
intrusively verifiable agreement |
01:22:09 |
to rid the world of nuclear weapons. |
01:22:11 |
Burt: |
01:22:14 |
eliminating nuclear weapons |
01:22:15 |
or living in a world |
01:22:19 |
We can do this. |
01:22:21 |
There has to be |
01:22:23 |
a carefully orchestrated |
01:22:26 |
The United States and Russia, |
01:22:28 |
with 96% of the world's |
01:22:30 |
have to lead the way. |
01:22:32 |
Cirincione: |
01:22:34 |
where there are 23,000 |
01:22:36 |
The very first step is |
01:22:38 |
to cut those arsenals dramatically |
01:22:41 |
in the United States and Russia. |
01:22:43 |
Once you get down to |
01:22:46 |
then you will have built up |
01:22:49 |
to ensure that you can |
01:22:53 |
so that we can get rid |
01:22:54 |
- None. |
01:22:57 |
I say zero. |
01:23:03 |
- Never have it. |
01:23:11 |
- None. |
01:23:12 |
- Zero. |
01:23:14 |
No nuclear weapons. Zero. |
01:23:16 |
- Zero. |
01:23:18 |
No country should have them. |
01:23:20 |
The optimum number is none. |
01:23:22 |
Ideal will be zero. |
01:23:23 |
Zero nuclear weapons. |
01:23:25 |
Nol. Nol. |
01:23:43 |
We've taken important steps foward |
01:23:45 |
to increase nuclear security |
01:23:47 |
and to stop the spread |
01:23:49 |
This starts with the reduction |
01:23:51 |
of our own nuclear arsenals. |
01:23:53 |
This legally binding treaty |
01:23:56 |
will be completed this year. |
01:23:58 |
Burt: |
01:24:02 |
between the United States |
01:24:05 |
you'd think these were |
01:24:07 |
taken by governments. |
01:24:09 |
But the fact is, public opinion |
01:24:12 |
had a big role to play |
01:24:15 |
Cirincione: |
01:24:17 |
after he passed |
01:24:19 |
and whenever he mentioned it |
01:24:22 |
he got thunderous applause. |
01:24:24 |
And he quipped, |
01:24:27 |
I would have done it |
01:24:29 |
McNamara: |
01:24:32 |
has not yet been agreed to |
01:24:34 |
by the political leaders |
01:24:37 |
It's a revolutionary idea, |
01:24:45 |
Cizik: |
01:24:48 |
And if we can't change |
01:24:50 |
we won't survive. |
01:24:54 |
I've changed my thinking, |
01:24:57 |
and millions and millions |
01:24:59 |
And frankly, if you've never |
01:25:02 |
I say, you know, pinch yourself. |
01:25:06 |
( rock music playing ) |
01:25:11 |
# Hey hey hey # |
01:25:21 |
# When something's dark # |
01:25:24 |
# Let me shed a little light on it # |
01:25:26 |
# When something's cold # |
01:25:28 |
# Let me put a little fire on it # |
01:25:31 |
# If something's old # |
01:25:33 |
# I wanna put a bit of shine on it # |
01:25:35 |
# When something's gone # |
01:25:38 |
# I wanna fight to get it back again # |
01:25:41 |
# Yeah yeah yeah yeah # |
01:25:45 |
# Fight to get it back again # |
01:25:48 |
# Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah # |
01:25:53 |
# When something's broke # |
01:25:55 |
# I wanna put a bit of fixin' on it # |
01:25:58 |
# When something's bored # |
01:26:00 |
# I wanna put a little exciting on it # |
01:26:03 |
# If something's low # |
01:26:05 |
# I wanna put a little high on it # |
01:26:07 |
# When something's lost # |
01:26:10 |
# I wanna fight to get it back again # |
01:26:13 |
# Yeah yeah yeah yeah # |
01:26:16 |
# Fight to get it back again # |
01:26:19 |
# Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah # |
01:26:24 |
# When signals cross # |
01:26:27 |
# I wanna put a little straight on it # |
01:26:29 |
# If there's no love # |
01:26:31 |
# I wanna try to love again # |
01:26:36 |
# I'll say your prayers # |
01:26:39 |
# I'll take your side # |
01:26:42 |
# I'll find us a way # |
01:26:46 |
# To make light # |
01:26:49 |
# I'll dig your grave # |
01:26:52 |
# We'll dance and sing # |
01:26:55 |
# What's saved could be # |
01:26:57 |
# One last lifetime # |
01:27:05 |
# Hey hey hey # |
01:27:09 |
# Ah-ah ah-ah # |
01:27:11 |
# Ah-ah ah-ah, ah-ah ah-ah # |
01:27:16 |
# When something's dark # |
01:27:18 |
# Let me shed a little light on it # |
01:27:21 |
# When something's cold # |
01:27:23 |
# Let me put a little fire on it # |
01:27:25 |
# If something's old # |
01:27:27 |
# I wanna put a bit of shine on it # |
01:27:30 |
# When something's gone # |
01:27:32 |
# I wanna fight to get it back again # |
01:27:36 |
# Yeah yeah yeah yeah # |
01:27:39 |
# Fight to get it back again # |
01:27:42 |
# Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah # |
01:27:47 |
# When something's broke # |
01:27:50 |
# I wanna put a bit of fixin' on it # |
01:27:52 |
# When something's bored # |
01:27:54 |
# I wanna put a little exciting on it # |
01:27:57 |
# If something's low # |
01:27:59 |
# I wanna put a little high on it # |
01:28:02 |
# When something's lost # |
01:28:04 |
# I wanna fight to get it back again # |
01:28:07 |
# Yeah yeah yeah yeah # |
01:28:10 |
# Fight to get it back again # |
01:28:14 |
# Yeah yeah yeah yeah # |
01:28:17 |
# Fight to get it back again # |
01:28:20 |
# Yeah yeah yeah # |
01:28:23 |
# Fight to get it back again # |
01:28:27 |
# Yeah yeah yeah # |
01:28:29 |
# Fight to get it back again # |
01:28:33 |
# Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah # |
01:28:39 |
# Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah. # |