A Man for All Seasons

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00:05:07 Every second bastard born
00:05:16 But in Utopia that couldn't be.
00:05:18 For why?
00:05:19 -For there the priests are very holy.
00:05:24 Is it anything interesting, Matthew?
00:05:27 -Bless you, sir. I don't know.
00:05:36 To be sure, we have
00:05:38 -Oh, name some.
00:05:41 Man's a simpleton.
00:05:44 It's from Cardinal Wolsey.
00:05:47 What's he want?
00:05:49 -Me.
00:05:50 Now.
00:05:51 In Hampton Court?
00:05:55 -The King's business.
00:05:58 Mistress Anne Boleyn's business.
00:06:00 Well, it's all the Cardinal's business.
00:06:03 That's very true. And when the Cardinal
00:06:07 What is the man? A butcher's son.
00:06:10 Chancellor of England, too.
00:06:12 No, that's his office. What's the man?
00:06:15 Surely, Your Grace,
00:06:18 ...we must think he was misplaced
00:06:22 That, at least,
00:06:26 A butcher's son and looks it.
00:06:28 His looks, yes, I give you his looks.
00:06:33 What was that you said, Richard?
00:06:36 Nothing, Sir Thomas, it was out of place.
00:06:39 And Wolsey's still a butcher.
00:06:41 And you're a member of the King's
00:06:45 That is why I must go.
00:06:47 The Duke would go
00:06:50 I might.
00:06:53 I'll be back for breakfast.
00:06:56 Go to bed.
00:06:59 "Dear Lord, give us rest tonight,
00:07:03 "Careful only for our soul's salvation.
00:07:08 And bless our lord, the King.
00:07:11 -"And bless our lord, the King."
00:07:14 Excuse me, gentlemen.
00:07:21 Keep clear of Wolsey, Thomas.
00:07:26 -Who is that?
00:07:29 -What's he want?
00:07:32 -Can you give him a position?
00:07:35 No.
00:07:53 -Sir Thomas.
00:07:56 -Did you recommend me?
00:08:00 Richard, I may have a position for you.
00:08:02 -What? What position?
00:08:46 For you all, boatman.
00:08:49 Thank you, sir.
00:09:10 Sir Thomas is here, Your Grace.
00:09:14 Master Cromwell.
00:09:29 You opposed me in the Council
00:09:33 Yes, Your Grace.
00:09:35 -You were the only one.
00:09:40 You're a fool.
00:09:42 Thank God there is only one fool
00:09:49 Why did you oppose me?
00:09:51 I thought Your Grace was wrong.
00:09:55 A matter of conscience.
00:09:59 You're a constant regret to me, Thomas.
00:10:02 If you could just see facts flat on...
00:10:04 ...without that horrible moral squint.
00:10:08 With a little common sense,
00:10:18 The King.
00:10:45 Where's he been? Do you know?
00:10:49 I, Your Grace?
00:10:51 Spare me your discretion.
00:10:54 He's been to play in the muck again.
00:11:00 He's been to Mistress Anne Boleyn.
00:11:08 More, are you going to help me?
00:11:14 If Your Grace will be specific.
00:11:18 You're a plodder! All right, we'll plod.
00:11:22 The King wants a son.
00:11:25 I'm very sure the King needs no advice
00:11:30 Thomas, we're alone.
00:11:33 I didn't suppose there was, Your Grace.
00:11:39 Do you favour a change of dynasty?
00:11:42 For God's sake, Your Grace!
00:11:44 Then he needs a son. I repeat,
00:11:47 I pray for it daily.
00:11:48 God's death, he means it.
00:11:51 That thing out there, at least she's fertile.
00:11:55 -But she's not his wife.
00:11:58 ...and she's barren as a brick.
00:12:01 There are precedents.
00:12:06 All right. Good. Pray by all means.
00:12:11 But in addition to prayer there is effort.
00:12:20 Have I your support, or have I not?
00:12:26 The Pope gave a dispensation,
00:12:29 ...his brother's widow for state reasons.
00:12:33 We are to ask the Pope to dispense with
00:12:38 I don't like plodding, Thomas. Well?
00:12:40 Then, clearly all we have to do is
00:12:44 I think we might influence
00:12:48 By argument?
00:12:49 Argument certainly. And pressure.
00:12:54 Pressure, applied to the Church?
00:13:00 Pressure.
00:13:08 No, Your Grace, I'm not going to help you.
00:13:14 Then goodnight, Master More.
00:13:20 Let the dynasty die with Henry Vlll
00:13:25 Blood-witted barons ramping the country
00:13:29 Is that what you want? Very well.
00:13:33 England needs an heir.
00:13:37 Certain measures, perhaps regrettable...
00:13:41 ...perhaps not, there's much in the Church
00:13:47 All right, regrettable.
00:13:53 Now, explain how you, as a councillor
00:13:57 ...for the sake
00:14:02 I think that when statesmen forsake
00:14:06 ...for the sake of their public duties...
00:14:08 ...they lead their country
00:14:16 And we shall have my prayers
00:14:19 You'd like that, wouldn't you?
00:14:24 Yes, I should.
00:14:26 I'd like to be there when you try.
00:14:30 Who will wear this after me?
00:14:33 Who's our next chancellor?
00:14:38 -Fisher for me.
00:14:40 What about my secretary,
00:14:44 Cromwell. He's a very able man.
00:14:49 But?
00:14:51 Me rather than Cromwell.
00:14:54 Then, come down to earth.
00:14:59 Until you do...
00:15:02 ...you and I are enemies.
00:15:06 As Your Grace wishes.
00:15:10 As God wills.
00:15:12 Perhaps, Your Grace.
00:15:15 More! You should have been a cleric!
00:15:19 Like yourself, Your Grace?
00:15:34 Goodnight, Sir Thomas.
00:15:43 Sir Thomas.
00:15:45 Sir Thomas.
00:15:47 Sir Thomas.
00:15:50 -What's this?
00:15:54 -Leicester?
00:15:59 My daughter has a case, sir,
00:16:05 Baked apples, sir.
00:16:07 To sweeten my judgement.
00:16:09 I'll give your daughter the same judgement
00:16:13 A fair one, quickly.
00:16:15 Bless you, sir.
00:16:17 I understand. Yes. I'll read it.
00:16:26 Good evening, Sir Thomas.
00:16:28 -I'll read it.
00:16:30 -I could illuminate it for you--
00:16:33 Just a moment or two....
00:16:36 Boat!
00:16:38 Sir?
00:17:00 Chelsea, sir?
00:17:01 Chelsea.
00:17:03 I expect you'll make it worth my while, sir.
00:17:05 -You've got a licence?
00:17:09 -Well then, the fares are fixed.
00:17:11 Hampton to Chelsea downstream,
00:17:14 Chelsea to Hampton upstream,
00:17:16 Whoever makes the regulations
00:17:19 No. Threepence if you get me home
00:17:22 Thank you, sir.
00:17:51 A nice cup, sir.
00:17:54 Yes.
00:18:11 That's worth money, sir.
00:18:49 Mind a way, sir.
00:18:57 Thank you, sir.
00:19:05 -Have you been here all night?
00:19:09 You said there was a post?
00:19:12 Yes. I'll offer you a post, with a house,
00:19:17 What post?
00:19:19 At the new school.
00:19:23 A teacher!
00:19:25 Richard, no one's going to give you
00:19:30 Master Cromwell says
00:19:34 Cromwell?
00:19:36 Well, if you know Cromwell
00:19:40 Sir Thomas?
00:19:44 If only you knew how much,
00:19:50 Not to a place at court.
00:19:52 Why not?
00:19:56 Look.
00:19:58 -What is it?
00:20:03 "l am the gift of Averil Machin."
00:20:07 And Averil Machin has a lawsuit
00:20:11 Italian silver. Take it. No joke.
00:20:18 Thank you.
00:20:22 What will you do with it?
00:20:25 Sell it.
00:20:25 -And buy what?
00:20:29 But Richard, that's a little bribe.
00:20:32 At court they offer you all sorts of things,
00:20:38 A man should go
00:20:41 Why not be a teacher? You'd be
00:20:47 -lf I was, who would know it?
00:20:51 God. Not a bad public, that.
00:20:58 And a quiet life.
00:21:00 You say that.
00:21:03 Yes, talking with the Cardinal.
00:21:06 It's eating your heart out, isn't it?
00:21:10 The divorce?
00:21:12 Boatman!
00:21:14 Sir?
00:21:15 -Take this gentleman to the New lnn!
00:21:17 Sir Thomas?
00:21:20 Thank you.
00:21:22 Be a teacher.
00:21:34 -Matthew.
00:21:35 -Lady Alice in bed?
00:21:37 -Lady Margaret?
00:21:39 The Master Roper's here, sir.
00:21:41 At this hour? Who let him in?
00:21:44 He's a hard man to keep out, sir.
00:22:08 Will wants to marry me, Father.
00:22:11 Well, he can't marry you.
00:22:14 Sir Thomas, I'm called to the Bar.
00:22:16 Oh, congratulations, Roper.
00:22:19 My family may not be at the palace,
00:22:22 There's nothing wrong
00:22:25 There's not much wrong with you.
00:22:29 Except you seem to need a clock.
00:22:31 I can buy a clock, sir.
00:22:33 Roper, the answer is no...
00:22:35 ...and will be no as long as you're a heretic.
00:22:37 Now, that's a word I don't like,
00:22:39 It's not a likeable word or thing.
00:22:41 The Church is heretical!
00:22:45 Luther is an excommunicate!
00:22:47 From a heretic Church!
00:22:50 -Salvation by the shilling! And divorces!
00:22:53 -What I know, I'll say!
00:22:57 He's no sense of the time.
00:23:00 Now listen well.
00:23:02 Two years ago you were
00:23:04 Now you're a passionate Lutheran.
00:23:06 We must just pray
00:23:09 ...your face is to the front again.
00:23:13 -ls your horse here?
00:23:17 Well, take a horse from the stables
00:23:21 Go along.
00:23:24 May I come again?
00:23:27 Yes. Soon.
00:23:34 Is that final, Father?
00:23:36 As long as he's a heretic, Meg,
00:23:43 What did Wolsey want?
00:23:48 Nice boy, young Will.
00:23:51 Terribly strong principles, though.
00:23:55 Clumsy, too.
00:23:57 -You're very pensive.
00:24:00 Was it the divorce?
00:24:03 To bed.
00:24:05 They're a cantankerous lot, the Ropers.
00:24:09 Old Roper was just the same--
00:24:13 You don't want to talk about it.
00:24:16 No.
00:24:22 -I'm sorry you were awakened, chick.
00:24:26 What did Wolsey want?
00:24:29 -Will Roper's been.
00:24:32 Yes, he's been here all night.
00:24:35 -Why you don't beat that girl l--
00:24:38 She's full of education
00:24:42 Goodnight, Meg.
00:24:44 Goodnight.
00:24:49 Marry Meg. A lawyer's son.
00:24:51 Well, she's a lawyer's daughter.
00:24:56 Norfolk spoke of you
00:25:01 Well, he's a dangerous friend then.
00:25:04 Wolsey's chancellor, God help him.
00:25:07 But Norfolk said, if Wolsey fell, you--
00:25:09 If Wolsey fell, the splash would swamp
00:25:13 No.
00:25:15 There'll be no new chancellors
00:26:06 The Duke of Norfolk,
00:26:22 Have you any message for His Majesty?
00:26:27 If I had served God...
00:26:29 ...one half so well as I've served my King...
00:26:33 ...God would not have left me here,
00:26:39 Thank God you're dying here.
00:27:06 "l am straightly charged
00:27:09 "...here openly to declare
00:27:13 "...is beholden to this man.
00:27:15 "And how worthy he is
00:27:21 "And how dearly
00:27:25 "...not only for much good council...
00:27:28 "...deliberate council,
00:27:32 "...that which is privy to the King's person.
00:27:36 "This same Sir Thomas More...
00:27:38 "...here made before you all to be...
00:27:41 "...Lord Chancellor of the Realm."
00:29:20 Calm yourself, Matthew.
00:29:21 Fetch Lady Alice.
00:29:35 That's very well.
00:29:41 My lady! The King!
00:30:45 Now remember, the visit's a surprise.
00:30:47 But he'll know we're expecting him--
00:30:49 It's a very great honour.
00:30:52 What's he really coming for?
00:30:53 To talk about the divorce.
00:30:56 -But he's had his answer.
00:30:58 Thomas!
00:31:06 Your Majesty does my house more honour
00:31:10 No ceremony Thomas, no ceremony!
00:31:12 A passing fancy.
00:31:15 Look. Mud.
00:31:20 By heaven, what an evening.
00:31:24 Lady Alice,
00:31:27 Yes, Your Grace. Well, no, Your Grace.
00:31:29 Well, that is, we are ready to entertain--
00:31:32 This is my daughter Margaret, sire.
00:31:36 She's not yet had the honour
00:31:39 Why Margaret,
00:31:42 Answer, Margaret.
00:31:44 Among women, I pass for one, Your Grace.
00:32:17 Can you dance, too?
00:32:19 Not well, Your Grace.
00:32:23 Well, I dance superlatively!
00:32:26 That's a dancer's leg, Margaret!
00:32:40 Lady Alice,
00:32:43 If Your Grace would share
00:32:46 It would please me. Lead them in.
00:32:48 Thomas and I will follow.
00:32:49 Matthew.
00:32:51 My lords and gentlemen!
00:32:59 Margaret?
00:33:00 Your Grace?
00:33:02 Do you like music?
00:33:03 Yes, Your Grace.
00:33:05 They'll play to you.
00:33:30 Now, listen to this.
00:33:35 Sit down.
00:33:38 Be seated. No courtship, Thomas.
00:33:44 You're my friend, are you not?
00:33:47 Your Majesty.
00:33:48 Thank God I have a friend
00:33:50 Readier to befriend, I trust,
00:33:53 My own knowledge of my poor abilities--
00:33:56 I will judge of your abilities.
00:33:59 Thomas?
00:34:03 You know that Wolsey named you
00:34:07 Before he died, Wolsey named you,
00:34:11 He was a statesman
00:34:17 Was he?
00:34:19 Was he so?
00:34:22 Then, why did he fail me?
00:34:26 It was villainy then.
00:34:29 Yes, villainy. Secret opposition, secret.
00:34:31 But deliberate, wilful,
00:34:34 Wanted to be pope to master me, Wolsey.
00:34:37 What is it? Thought!
00:34:38 Because I'm simple and plain and deal
00:34:43 Because of that I say,
00:34:51 Wolsey was a proud man, Thomas.
00:34:57 Pride right through.
00:34:59 And he failed me.
00:35:01 Failed me in the one thing that matters,
00:35:08 But look.
00:35:10 Be seated.
00:35:16 What an evening.
00:35:19 A man could fight a lion.
00:35:21 Some men could, Your Grace.
00:35:24 Thomas...
00:35:27 ...touching this matter of my divorce.
00:35:30 Have you thought of it
00:35:32 Of little else.
00:35:33 Then you see your way clear to me?
00:35:35 That you should put away
00:35:38 Alas, as I think of it, I see so clearly...
00:35:40 ...that I cannot come with Your Grace,
00:35:43 ...not to think of it at all.
00:35:44 Then you haven't thought enough!
00:35:54 Lilac.
00:35:56 We have them at Hampton.
00:35:59 Not so fine as this, though.
00:36:03 I'm in an excellent frame of mind.
00:36:10 Thomas, you must consider,
00:36:13 It was no marriage.
00:36:15 I have lived in incest
00:36:19 Leviticus: "Thou shalt not uncover
00:36:24 Leviticus. Chapter 18, verse 16.
00:36:27 Yes, Your Grace. But Deuteronomy--
00:36:28 Deuteronomy is ambiguous!
00:36:30 Your Grace, I'm not fitted
00:36:33 To me, it seems a matter for the Holy See--
00:36:35 Thomas, does a man need a pope
00:36:40 It was a sin.
00:36:43 God's punished me.
00:36:45 I've no son.
00:36:48 Son after son she's borne me.
00:36:50 All dead at birth, or dead within the month.
00:36:53 I never saw the hand of God
00:36:56 It's my bounden duty
00:36:58 And all the popes, back to Peter,
00:37:04 How is it that you cannot see?
00:37:06 Then, why does Your Grace
00:37:10 Because you're honest.
00:37:12 And what is more to the purpose,
00:37:14 Those like Norfolk follow me
00:37:17 Those like Cromwell follow
00:37:20 ...and I'm their tiger. A mass follows me...
00:37:22 ...because it follows anything that moves.
00:37:27 And then there's you.
00:37:30 I am sick to think
00:37:34 No, Thomas, I respect your sincerity.
00:37:41 But respect...
00:37:43 ...man, that's water in the desert.
00:37:51 How'd you like our music?
00:37:52 That air they played, it had a certain....
00:37:54 Well, tell me what you thought of it.
00:37:57 Could it have been Your Grace's own?
00:37:59 Discovered!
00:38:01 Now I'll never know your true opinion,
00:38:04 Well, we artists, we love praise,
00:38:08 -Then I will tell my true opinion.
00:38:10 To me it seemed delightful.
00:38:15 Thomas, I chose the right man
00:38:19 I should in fairness add that my taste
00:38:24 Your taste in music is excellent!
00:38:26 It exactly coincides with my own.
00:38:33 Music.
00:38:35 Music.
00:38:38 Send them back without me, Thomas.
00:38:42 My house is at Your Grace's disposal.
00:38:44 Touching this other business, mark you...
00:38:49 ...I'll have no opposition.
00:38:52 Your Grace.
00:38:54 No opposition, I say. No opposition.
00:38:59 Be seated.
00:39:03 I'll leave you out of it
00:39:08 I don't take it kindly
00:39:14 I see how it will be.
00:39:17 The bishops will oppose me!
00:39:20 The full-fed princes of the Church!
00:39:25 Mind they do not take you in, Thomas!
00:39:27 Your Grace is unjust.
00:39:28 If I cannot serve Your Grace
00:39:32 I have no queen!
00:39:34 Catherine's not my wife!
00:39:37 No priest can make her so.
00:39:40 They that say she is my wife
00:39:45 Yes, traitors!
00:39:48 That I will not brook now!
00:39:50 Treachery!
00:39:52 I will not brook.
00:39:53 It maddens me!
00:39:55 It is a deadly canker in the body politic,
00:40:10 See?
00:40:13 You see how you've maddened me?
00:40:16 I hardly know myself.
00:40:26 If you could come with me,
00:40:29 ...yes, with my own hand.
00:40:31 Your Grace overwhelms me.
00:40:42 What's that?
00:40:44 Eight o'clock, Your Grace.
00:40:48 Lift yourself up, man.
00:40:53 Have I not promised I'll leave you out of it?
00:40:57 Shall we eat?
00:40:59 If Your Grace pleases.
00:41:04 Eight o'clock, you said.
00:41:07 The tide will be turning.
00:41:09 -I was forgetting the tide. I must go.
00:41:13 If I don't catch the tide
00:41:16 No, don't come.
00:41:21 Lady Alice, I must go and catch the tide.
00:41:24 So we give you our thanks
00:41:48 What's this?
00:41:50 -You crossed him!
00:41:52 -Why?
00:41:54 You're too nice altogether, Thomas.
00:41:56 -Woman, mind your house!
00:42:03 God save Your Majesty!
00:42:06 God save Your Grace!
00:42:15 God save the King!
00:42:19 Lift!
00:42:28 Drop blades!
00:42:31 Sire! Sire! Sire!
00:43:04 Are you coming my way, Rich?
00:43:09 No.
00:43:12 I think you should, you know.
00:43:14 I can't tell you anything.
00:43:23 Well?
00:43:36 Thomas?
00:43:39 Stay friends with him.
00:43:43 Whatever may be done by smiling,
00:43:53 Set your mind at rest.
00:43:55 This is not the stuff
00:44:08 Good evening, sir, Lady Alice.
00:44:12 Will wants to talk to you, Father.
00:44:15 I told him it wouldn't be convenient.
00:44:17 You were quite right.
00:44:19 You're very free
00:44:22 Yes.
00:44:24 It's of that I wish to speak.
00:44:26 Sir, you've had a disagreement
00:44:30 -Have l?
00:44:32 I offer my congratulations.
00:44:34 If it's true,
00:44:37 Yes!
00:44:41 Sir, when last I asked you
00:44:46 ...you objected to my unorthodox opinions.
00:44:50 -I did.
00:44:51 Well, since then my views
00:44:58 Well, that's good hearing, Will.
00:45:00 Mind you, I modify nothing concerning
00:45:04 -Quite right.
00:45:07 ...no. I see behind that an attack on God.
00:45:09 -Roper!
00:45:11 ...to be done by the Devil's ministers!
00:45:13 For heaven's sake, remember my office.
00:45:15 If you stand on your office--
00:45:16 No, I don't stand on it,
00:45:21 Sir Thomas.
00:45:24 Richard?
00:45:26 I fell.
00:45:29 Lady Alice.
00:45:30 -Lady Margaret.
00:45:32 Do you know William Roper, the younger?
00:45:34 By reputation, of course.
00:45:36 -Good evening, Master....
00:45:46 You've heard of me?
00:45:47 Yes.
00:45:49 In what connection?
00:45:58 I sense that I'm not welcome here.
00:46:00 Why Richard? Have you done something
00:46:03 Cromwell is asking questions.
00:46:05 About you. He's always asking
00:46:08 Of whom?
00:46:11 Of him, for one. That's one of his sources.
00:46:14 Of course. That's one of my servants.
00:46:18 All right, Matthew.
00:46:25 Well, you look at me
00:46:29 Why Richard, you're shaking.
00:46:33 Help me.
00:46:35 How?
00:46:36 Employ me.
00:46:38 No.
00:46:40 -Employ me!
00:46:56 I would be faithful.
00:47:02 You couldn't answer for yourself
00:47:17 Arrest him!
00:47:19 -For what?
00:47:20 -Libel. He's a spy!
00:47:22 -There's no law against that.
00:47:24 -Then God can arrest him.
00:47:27 Go he should, if he were the Devil,
00:47:30 -Now you give the Devil benefit of law!
00:47:33 Cut a road through the law
00:47:36 Yes. I'd cut down every law in England
00:47:39 And when the last law was down,
00:47:42 ...where would you hide, Roper,
00:47:45 This country is planted with laws
00:47:48 ...Man's laws, not God's,
00:47:51 ...and you're just the man to do it...
00:47:53 ...do you really think you could stand
00:47:58 Yes.
00:47:59 I give the Devil benefit of law
00:48:39 -Master Rich?
00:48:41 In there, sir.
00:48:48 Rich? Come in.
00:48:54 Taken you long enough to get here.
00:48:56 Have I kept you waiting?
00:48:59 Months.
00:49:02 -Here.
00:49:06 Do you know the news?
00:49:08 -What news?
00:49:12 And I succeed him.
00:49:15 Secretary to the Council?
00:49:17 You?
00:49:19 'Tis surprising, isn't it?
00:49:22 I mean, one sees that's logical.
00:49:26 Sit down, Rich.
00:49:29 ...as His Majesty would say.
00:49:34 You see how I trust you.
00:49:37 I'd never repeat or report a thing like that.
00:49:41 What kind of thing
00:49:46 Nothing said in friendship.
00:49:48 Do you believe that?
00:49:49 -Why, yes.
00:49:51 Well, yes.
00:49:53 Rich, seriously.
00:50:02 That would depend what I was offered.
00:50:07 Don't say it just to please me.
00:50:08 It's true. It would depend
00:50:13 Well, there is another post vacant.
00:50:16 Collector of Revenues for York.
00:50:19 Is it in your gift?
00:50:20 Effectively.
00:50:23 What must I do for it?
00:50:27 I know a man
00:50:32 Normally a matter of small importance,
00:50:34 ...it's our liege, Lord Henry,
00:50:38 Which is a quaint way of saying that
00:50:42 And our job as administrators...
00:50:45 ...is to minimise the inconvenience
00:50:49 That's our only job, Rich,
00:50:54 A harmless occupation
00:50:57 We administrators are not liked, Rich.
00:51:00 We are not popular.
00:51:02 I say "we" on the assumption you'll accept
00:51:11 Yes.
00:51:20 It's a bad sign when people are depressed
00:51:23 -I'm not depressed.
00:51:25 I was lamenting. I've lost my innocence.
00:51:27 Some time ago.
00:51:32 Your friend, our present Lord Chancellor,
00:51:38 The odd thing is, he is.
00:51:40 Yes, I say he is. Unhappily...
00:51:43 ...his innocence is tangled up
00:51:45 ...that you can't change your woman
00:51:48 ...and you can't get a divorce
00:51:51 And from this meaningless circumstance,
00:51:56 -lnconvenience?
00:51:59 This goblet he gave you,
00:52:03 Come along, he gave you a silver goblet.
00:52:08 Fifty shillings.
00:52:09 It was a gift, wasn't it,
00:52:12 -Yes.
00:52:16 Don't get drunk!
00:52:18 Which court was the litigant's case?
00:52:23 Court of Requests.
00:52:26 There. That wasn't too painful, was it?
00:52:32 -No.
00:52:33 And you'll find it easier, next time.
00:53:10 My Lord Archbishop, my lords...
00:53:13 ...Reverend Doctors of the Church.
00:53:15 The answer of our liege, Lord Henry...
00:53:18 ...to his trusty well-beloved subjects...
00:53:20 ...pontiffs in the Canterbury Convocation.
00:53:25 "His Majesty...
00:53:26 "...acknowledges your humble admission
00:53:31 "...for which he accepts...
00:53:32 "...the manumission of £100,000 in token.
00:53:39 "Mindful for the well-being of the realm
00:53:43 "...His Majesty requires that you do now
00:53:47 "...allegiance to the See of Rome.
00:53:50 "And admit the statute
00:53:54 "...acknowledging the King's good title...
00:53:57 "...Supreme Head of the Church
00:54:05 Well, my lords, what's your answer?
00:54:09 Yea or nay?
00:54:14 His Majesty accepts your resignation
00:54:17 He's mindful of your goodness
00:54:19 And in any matter concerning your honour
00:54:25 You will convey my humble gratitude.
00:54:33 -Help me with this.
00:54:39 -Alice?
00:54:41 Sun and moon, Master More, you're taken
00:54:46 To betray your ability...
00:54:48 ...abandon your station
00:54:52 Shall l, sir?
00:54:55 No, thank you, son Roper.
00:55:00 Margaret...
00:55:02 ...will you?
00:55:04 Yes.
00:55:11 If you want.
00:55:17 There's my clever girl.
00:55:22 Well done, sir! In my opinion,
00:55:27 I'll tell you my opinion
00:55:29 Don't! Will, silence!
00:55:34 ...and may have children.
00:55:47 All right, Thomas, make me understand...
00:55:49 ...because I tell you,
00:55:52 All right, I will.
00:55:53 This isn't reformation,
00:55:57 Our King has declared war on the Pope
00:56:00 -...that our Queen is not his wife.
00:56:06 Is she?
00:56:10 Have I your word that what we say here
00:56:12 Very well.
00:56:14 And if the King should command you
00:56:17 I should keep my word to you.
00:56:19 Then what has become of your oath
00:56:26 You lay traps for me!
00:56:27 No, I show you the times.
00:56:33 We are at war with the Pope.
00:56:37 He is. He's also the descendant
00:56:41 So you believe.
00:56:45 ...which includes the respect
00:56:48 Because what matters
00:56:51 ...not that I believe it, but that I believe it.
00:56:55 -I trust I make myself obscure?
00:57:01 Why do you insult me
00:57:05 Because I'm afraid.
00:57:07 Man, you're ill.
00:57:12 This isn't Spain, you know.
00:57:33 My friends, you all know
00:57:37 I have today resigned my office.
00:57:43 I am no longer a great man.
00:57:47 Sir, we want you to know
00:57:51 My side? What side is that?
00:57:54 Well, sir, we all know what you think.
00:57:56 None of you knows what I think.
00:57:58 ...and babble it about,
00:58:03 Since I am no more a great man,
00:58:06 Nor can I afford one. You will have to go.
00:58:11 However, I still number some great men
00:58:14 ...and they still need great households.
00:58:17 No one will be turned away
00:58:20 -We can't find places for them all.
00:58:25 Thank you.
00:58:28 That is all.
00:58:39 What about you, Matthew?
00:58:45 Will you stay?
00:58:46 Well, sir, that's according.
00:58:48 There will be more work and less money.
00:58:52 Well then, I don't see how I can then, sir.
00:58:56 Quite right, Matthew. Why should you?
00:59:01 Oh, no, sir, you see through me, sir.
00:59:08 I shall miss you.
00:59:21 Damn me! Isn't that them all over!
00:59:23 Miss me? What's in me for him to miss?
00:59:26 "Matthew, will you take a cut in wages?"
00:59:30 And that's it. And that's all of it! All right,
00:59:36 I don't mind saying
00:59:38 If I had good luck to spare
00:59:40 I wish we could have good luck
00:59:42 I wish rainwater was beer!
00:59:57 Well, there's an end of you.
01:00:00 What'll you do now? Sit by the fire...
01:00:02 ...and make goslings in the ash?
01:00:05 Not at all, Alice.
01:00:07 I expect I'll write a bit...
01:00:11 ...I'll write...
01:00:13 ...I'll read, I'll think.
01:00:17 I think I'll learn to fish.
01:00:20 I'll play with my grandchildren
01:00:26 -Alice, shall I teach you to read?
01:00:32 Poor, silly man,
01:00:35 If we govern our tongues, they will!
01:00:41 I have a word to say on that. I've made
01:00:47 The King is made, by act of parliament,
01:00:50 This English Church will divorce him from
01:00:55 But on any of these matters,
01:00:58 No.
01:01:00 If I'm to lose my rank and fall to
01:01:03 -So make a statement now.
01:01:06 Alice, it's a point of law.
01:01:08 ...that in silence is my safety,
01:01:11 And my silence must be absolute,
01:01:15 In short, you don't trust me.
01:01:21 I'm the Lord Chief Justice,
01:01:25 I take your hand...
01:01:26 ...I clamp it on the Bible,
01:01:30 "Woman, has your husband
01:01:34 "On peril of your soul remember,
01:01:39 No.
01:01:41 And so it must remain.
01:01:53 Have you opened your mind to Meg?
01:01:55 Would I tell Meg what I won't tell you?
01:01:59 Meg has your heart.
01:02:13 This is a dangerous matter then...
01:02:16 ...if you've not told Meg.
01:02:19 I don't think so. No.
01:02:23 When they find I'm silent...
01:02:25 ...they'll want nothing better
01:02:30 You'll see.
01:02:52 But he's silent, Master Secretary,
01:02:56 Your Grace, not being a man of letters...
01:02:59 ...you perhaps don't realise
01:03:02 This silence of his
01:03:05 In Europe he is claimed
01:03:07 Rubbish! Crank he may be,
01:03:10 Exactly. And with a little pressure....
01:03:13 With a little pressure
01:03:15 That's all we need.
01:03:18 -...to the present administration.
01:03:22 The King does not agree with you.
01:03:30 What kind of pressure do you think
01:03:34 I have evidence that Sir Thomas,
01:03:38 What?
01:03:40 Goddammit! He was the only judge
01:03:43 When was there a chancellor
01:03:47 ...totalled £100 and a gold chain?
01:03:53 It is, as you imply, common practice...
01:03:56 ...but a practice may be common
01:03:59 This offence could send a man
01:04:06 Come here.
01:04:08 This woman's name is Averil Machin.
01:04:12 -She entered a case--
01:04:14 Shut your mouth.
01:04:16 A property case in the Court of Requests
01:04:19 And got a wicked false judgement!
01:04:20 And got an impeccably correct judgement
01:04:23 -No, sir, it was not!
01:04:25 ...about the gift you gave the judge.
01:04:29 I gave him a cup, sir.
01:04:30 A silver ltalian cup I bought in Leicester,
01:04:34 Did Sir Thomas accept this cup?
01:04:36 Yes, sir, he did.
01:04:37 He did accept it. We can corroborate that.
01:04:41 -To my way of thinking--
01:04:51 -ls that your witness?
01:04:55 By an odd coincidence that cup later
01:05:01 How?
01:05:05 -He gave it to me, Your Grace.
01:05:08 A gift.
01:05:10 Yes, you were a friend, weren't you?
01:05:14 When did Thomas give you this thing?
01:05:17 I can't exactly remember.
01:05:21 Do you "remember" what you did with it?
01:05:24 -I sold it.
01:05:26 -A shop.
01:05:30 No. They've lost all track of it.
01:05:32 How convenient.
01:05:35 You doubt Master Rich's word,
01:05:38 It had occurred to me.
01:05:43 This is the bill of sale.
01:05:55 That cow put her case into court in April,
01:06:01 In other words, the moment Thomas knew
01:06:04 ...he dropped it into the nearest gutter.
01:06:10 The facts will bear that interpretation,
01:06:14 This is a horse that won't run,
01:06:16 Just a trial gallop.
01:06:19 -I want no part of it.
01:06:24 What's that you say?
01:06:27 The King particularly wishes you
01:06:31 He's not told me that.
01:06:33 Indeed? He told me.
01:06:39 Look here, Cromwell...
01:06:40 ...what's the purpose of all this?
01:06:43 There you have me.
01:06:45 It's a matter of conscience, I think.
01:06:48 The King wants Sir Thomas
01:06:52 If Sir Thomas appeared at the wedding
01:06:58 He won't attend the wedding.
01:07:01 If I were you, I'd try and persuade him.
01:07:04 I really would try, if I were you.
01:07:09 Cromwell, are you threatening me?
01:07:12 My dear Norfolk, this isn't Spain.
01:07:16 This is England!
01:09:29 Thomas? Thomas!
01:10:34 Lady Margaret?
01:10:36 Yes.
01:10:39 We've been cutting greens.
01:10:44 I have a letter for your father,
01:10:52 He's to answer certain charges
01:10:59 Good of you to come, Sir Thomas.
01:11:06 Master Rich will make a record
01:11:09 Good of you to tell me, Master Secretary.
01:11:11 I think you know one another.
01:11:12 Indeed yes, we're old friends.
01:11:15 That's a nice gown you have, Richard.
01:11:23 Sir Thomas, believe me.
01:11:25 No, that's asking too much.
01:11:29 You have no more sincere admirer
01:11:34 No, not yet, Rich, not yet.
01:11:40 If I might hear the charges.
01:11:42 -The charges?
01:11:45 Some ambiguities of behaviour
01:11:48 Make a note of that, will you, Master Rich?
01:11:53 Sir Thomas, Sir Thomas.
01:12:00 The King is not pleased with you.
01:12:03 I am grieved.
01:12:06 And yet, do you know that even now,
01:12:09 ...to agree with the Church,
01:12:13 ...there is no honour which His Majesty
01:12:17 I am well acquainted with
01:12:23 Very well.
01:12:26 You have heard of the so-called
01:12:31 ...who was executed for prophesying
01:12:33 -Yes, I met her.
01:12:35 Yet you did not warn His Majesty
01:12:39 She spoke no treason.
01:12:43 But the woman was notorious.
01:12:46 -Happily, there were witnesses.
01:12:49 Yes. I wrote, advising her to abstain
01:12:54 I have a copy of the letter. Also witnessed.
01:12:59 -You have been cautious.
01:13:11 In the June of 1521,
01:13:16 A theological work.
01:13:19 It was called,
01:13:21 For which he was named "Defender
01:13:26 By the Bishop of Rome,
01:13:30 No. "Bishop of Rome" if you like.
01:13:35 Thank you. You come to the point
01:13:40 For example, in the Church of England...
01:13:42 ...what exactly is
01:13:45 You will find it very ably set out
01:13:50 ...in the King's book.
01:13:52 In the book published under
01:13:55 -You wrote this book.
01:13:58 I don't mean you actually held the pen.
01:14:00 I answered to my best ability,
01:14:03 ...which the King put to me,
01:14:05 Do you deny you instigated it?
01:14:07 It was from first to last
01:14:10 The King says not.
01:14:14 The King knows the truth of it.
01:14:18 And whatever he may have said to you...
01:14:20 ...he will not give evidence
01:14:24 Why not?
01:14:26 Because evidence is given on oath,
01:14:30 If you don't know that,
01:14:39 Sir Thomas More.
01:14:41 Have you anything to say...
01:14:42 ...regarding the King's marriage
01:14:45 I understood
01:14:47 Then you understood wrongly.
01:14:50 They are terrors for children,
01:14:59 Then know that the King
01:15:02 ...in his name, with great ingratitude!
01:15:05 And to tell you that there never was,
01:15:09 ...nor so traitorous a subject, as yourself!
01:15:14 So...
01:15:17 ...I am brought here at last.
01:15:21 Brought?
01:15:23 You've brought yourself
01:15:28 You may go.
01:15:34 For the present.
01:15:41 What will you do now?
01:15:45 Whatever's necessary.
01:15:56 Boat!
01:16:13 Oh, come, come, it's not as bad as all that!
01:16:21 Howard!
01:16:28 I can't get home.
01:16:30 They won't bring me a boat.
01:16:32 Do you blame them?
01:16:34 Is it as bad as that?
01:16:36 It's every bit as bad as that!
01:16:39 Then it's good of you to be seen with me.
01:16:42 I followed you.
01:16:44 Were you followed?
01:16:56 -You're dangerous to know!
01:16:58 -I do know you.
01:17:00 -I am your friend. I wish I wasn't, but I am.
01:17:04 -Give in.
01:17:06 Our friendship's more mutable than that.
01:17:09 The one fixed point in the world
01:17:11 -...is that Sir More won't give in.
01:17:15 Affection goes as deep in me
01:17:18 But only God is love right through,
01:17:24 And who are you?
01:17:27 A lawyer! And a lawyer's son!
01:17:29 We're supposed to be the proud ones,
01:17:33 Why must you stand out?
01:17:35 Goddammit man! It's disproportionate!
01:17:41 You'll break my heart.
01:17:44 No one is safe, Howard,
01:17:50 We'll end our friendship now.
01:17:53 -For friendship's sake?
01:17:56 Daft!
01:18:04 Norfolk, you're a fool!
01:18:07 You can't place a quarrel,
01:18:10 Hear me out. You and your class
01:18:13 ...'cause this country's religion
01:18:16 Well, that's a foolish saying for a start!
01:18:19 The nobility of England--
01:18:21 The nobility of England would have
01:18:25 But you'll labour like scholars
01:18:29 An artificial quarrel is not a quarrel.
01:18:31 We've had a quarrel since the day we met.
01:18:35 You can be cruel when you want,
01:18:38 What do you value in your bulldogs?
01:18:43 -Yes.
01:18:44 -Yes.
01:18:46 It's so with men.
01:18:47 I will not give in, because I oppose it.
01:18:49 Not my pride, not my spleen,
01:18:56 Is there, in the midst of all this muscle,
01:19:00 ...of Norfolk's, but is just Norfolk?
01:19:02 -Give that some exercise, my lord!
01:19:04 As you stand you'll go before your Maker
01:19:07 Now steady.
01:19:08 And he'll think that, somewhere back along
01:19:26 Cast in this very house
01:19:30 ...it is a matter very fit
01:19:35 ...in parliament, to take in hand.
01:19:37 Or, in consequence of the decay of guilds...
01:19:42 ...the woolen cloth, now coming out
01:19:46 ...and the like, is not to blame and this....
01:19:51 I will defer the rest of my matter to later.
01:20:01 That the loyal Commons, here assembled,
01:20:06 For as much as it concerns the King's
01:20:10 Both matters pleasing to a loyal subject.
01:20:15 Mark, my Masters...
01:20:17 ...there is among us
01:20:22 ...to which deceit
01:20:24 And we, his loyal huntsmen, must now
01:20:58 Father?
01:20:59 Margaret!
01:21:01 I couldn't get a boat.
01:21:03 What is it, Meg?
01:21:05 Father, there's a new act
01:21:10 And by this act,
01:21:12 ...about the marriage.
01:21:15 On what compulsion is the oath?
01:21:18 -High treason.
01:21:20 Do the words matter?
01:21:22 Tell me the words.
01:21:23 An oath is made of words.
01:21:26 Take it?
01:21:27 And if it can be taken,
01:21:30 No!
01:21:31 Listen, Meg. God made the angels
01:21:36 As he made animals for innocence
01:21:40 But Man he made to serve him wittily,
01:21:45 If he suffers us to come to such a case
01:21:49 ...then we may stand to our tackle
01:21:51 And yes, Meg, then we can clamour
01:21:56 But it's God's part, not our own,
01:22:00 Our natural business lies in escaping.
01:22:06 If I can take this oath, I will.
01:22:13 I would, for my sake,
01:22:14 I never took a man into the Tower
01:22:17 Thank you, Master Governor.
01:22:22 Thank you.
01:22:25 Sir Thomas.
01:23:56 Sir Thomas.
01:24:01 Sir Thomas!
01:24:22 This is iniquitous.
01:24:27 -Where to this time?
01:25:24 Sit down.
01:25:33 This is the Seventh Commission
01:25:36 ...of Sir Thomas More, appointed
01:25:39 Have you anything to say?
01:25:41 No.
01:25:45 -Seen this document before?
01:25:47 It is the Act of Succession.
01:25:48 These are the names
01:25:51 -I have, as you say, seen it before.
01:25:54 No.
01:25:55 Thomas, we must know--
01:26:01 We must know plainly whether you
01:26:05 ...as heirs to the throne.
01:26:07 The King in parliament
01:26:10 -Of course I recognise them.
01:26:12 -Yes.
01:26:15 Because there is more than that in the act.
01:26:18 Just so. Sir Thomas, it states in the
01:26:23 ...to the Lady Catherine was unlawful...
01:26:25 ...she being his brother's widow and
01:26:30 Is that what you deny?
01:26:38 Is that what you dispute?
01:26:46 Is that what you are not sure of?
01:26:55 You insult His Majesty and Council
01:26:59 I insult no one.
01:27:01 I will not take the oath.
01:27:04 -Then your reasons must be treasonable!
01:27:08 It's a fair assumption!
01:27:10 The law requires more than an assumption,
01:27:13 Of course, I cannot judge
01:27:17 ...but until I know the ground
01:27:19 ...I can only guess
01:27:24 If you're willing to guess that, it should be
01:27:27 Then you do have objections to the act?
01:27:29 Well, we know that, Cromwell!
01:27:31 No, my lord, you don't.
01:27:33 You may suppose I have objections,
01:27:37 ...for which you cannot lawfully
01:27:40 But if you were right in supposing me
01:27:44 ...in supposing my objections
01:27:47 ...the law would let you cut my head off.
01:27:51 Oh, yes.
01:27:54 Well done, Sir Thomas.
01:27:56 I've been trying to make that clear
01:28:00 Oh, confound all this! I'm not a scholar.
01:28:02 I don't know if the marriage
01:28:04 ...but damn it, Thomas,
01:28:07 Why can't you do as I did,
01:28:11 And when we die, and you are sent
01:28:15 ...and I am sent to hell for not doing mine,
01:28:21 So, those of us whose names are there,
01:28:24 I have no window to look into
01:28:27 I condemn no one.
01:28:29 -Then the matter is capable of question?
01:28:31 But that you owe obedience to the King
01:28:34 So weigh a doubt against a certainty
01:28:40 Some men think the earth is round,
01:28:45 It is a matter capable of question.
01:28:49 But if it is flat,
01:28:53 And if it is round,
01:28:57 No, I will not sign.
01:29:00 Then you have more regard for
01:29:03 -For myself I have no doubt.
01:29:06 No doubt that I will not take this oath.
01:29:08 But why I will not, you,
01:29:12 I might get it out of you in other ways.
01:29:16 You threaten like a dockside bully.
01:29:19 How should I threaten?
01:29:20 Like a minister of state, with justice!
01:29:25 Justice is what you're threatened with.
01:29:27 Then I am not threatened.
01:29:35 Gentlemen, can't I go to bed?
01:29:38 Aye. The prisoner may retire
01:29:40 -Unless you--
01:29:47 Then, goodnight, Thomas.
01:29:55 May I have one or two more books?
01:29:58 Why, you have books?
01:30:00 Yes.
01:30:01 I didn't know, you shouldn't have.
01:30:11 May I see my family?
01:30:13 No.
01:30:20 Captain!
01:30:22 Master Secretary?
01:30:24 Have you ever heard the prisoner speak
01:30:28 -...or the King's marriage?
01:30:30 If he does, you will repeat it to me.
01:30:33 Of course.
01:30:40 Rich.
01:30:41 Secretary?
01:30:42 Tomorrow morning,
01:30:44 Is that necessary?
01:30:46 With regards to this case,
01:30:49 -Aye, with you.
01:30:51 The King's impatience
01:31:03 Master Secretary.
01:31:07 Sir Redvers Llewellyn has retired.
01:31:10 The Attorney General for Wales.
01:31:12 His post is vacant.
01:31:15 You said that I might approach you.
01:31:18 Not now, Rich.
01:31:23 He must submit. He must!
01:31:26 Rack him.
01:31:31 No. The King's conscience
01:31:35 We have to find some other way.
01:31:46 Sir Thomas!
01:31:50 Father!
01:31:51 What? Margaret?
01:31:53 Father!
01:31:55 Meg. For God's sake,
01:31:58 -No, sir, a visit.
01:32:00 Father.
01:32:03 -Good morning, husband.
01:32:08 Good morning, Will.
01:32:15 Well, this is a hellish place!
01:32:18 Except it's keeping me from you,
01:32:21 It's remarkably like any other place.
01:32:23 -lt drips!
01:32:37 Well, what is it?
01:32:40 Father, come out!
01:32:46 Is this why they've let you come?
01:32:48 Yes.
01:32:52 Meg's under oath to persuade you.
01:32:55 That was silly, Meg.
01:33:05 How do you plan to do that?
01:33:09 Father.
01:33:11 "God more regards the thoughts
01:33:14 -Well, so you've always told me.
01:33:17 Then say the words of the oath
01:33:20 What is an oath then,
01:33:29 Listen, Meg.
01:33:31 When a man takes an oath, he's holding
01:33:36 ...Iike water.
01:33:37 And if he opens his fingers then,
01:33:43 Some men aren't capable of this, but I'd be
01:33:51 -I have another argument.
01:33:53 In any state that was half good,
01:33:58 -...for what you've done already.
01:34:02 It's not your fault
01:34:04 No.
01:34:05 If you elect to suffer for it,
01:34:08 That's very neat.
01:34:10 But look now. If we lived in a state
01:34:14 ...common sense would make us saintly.
01:34:16 But since we see that avarice, anger,
01:34:21 ...commonly profit far beyond charity,
01:34:26 ...perhaps we must stand fast a little...
01:34:28 ...even at the risk of being heroes.
01:34:35 But in reason!
01:34:37 Haven't you done as much
01:34:45 Well, finally it isn't a matter of reason.
01:34:48 Finally, it's a matter of love.
01:34:54 You're content then to be shut up here
01:34:57 -...when you might be home with us?
01:34:59 If they'd open a crack that wide, I'd be
01:35:09 I haven't told you
01:35:11 Don't, Meg.
01:35:13 -What we do in the evening without you.
01:35:16 We don't read because we've no candles.
01:35:18 We don't talk because we wonder
01:35:21 The King is more merciful.
01:35:24 Two minutes to go, sir.
01:35:25 -I thought you'd like to know.
01:35:29 -Jailer!
01:35:33 Listen, you must leave the country.
01:35:37 -And leave you?
01:35:39 They won't let me see you again.
01:35:40 You must all go on the same day,
01:35:43 -Different boats from different ports.
01:35:46 There'll be no trial, they have no case.
01:35:50 Do this for me, I beseech you.
01:35:53 -Will?
01:35:54 -Margaret?
01:35:57 Alice?
01:36:03 -Alice, I command you!
01:36:13 This is splendid.
01:36:16 -I know who packed this.
01:36:19 Yes.
01:36:22 You still make a superlative custard, Alice.
01:36:25 Do l?
01:36:28 That's a nice dress you have on.
01:36:32 Nice colour anyway.
01:36:34 My God, you think little of me!
01:36:36 I know I'm a fool...
01:36:37 ...but I'm not such a fool
01:36:41 ...or to relish complimenting
01:36:43 I'm well rebuked.
01:36:46 -Alice--
01:36:51 I'm sick with fear when I think of the worst
01:36:55 But worse than that will be to go
01:37:00 I don't.
01:37:02 If you can tell me that you understand,
01:37:07 -Your death's no good to me.
01:37:11 I don't!
01:37:12 I don't believe this had to happen!
01:37:14 If you say that
01:37:16 It's the truth!
01:37:18 -You're an honest woman.
01:37:22 I'll tell you what I'm afraid of...
01:37:24 ...that when you've gone,
01:37:31 You mustn't, Alice.
01:37:36 You mustn't.
01:37:42 As for understanding, I understand you're
01:37:46 And if you go, God knows why I suppose,
01:37:51 ...God's kept deadly quiet about it.
01:37:54 And if any one wants to know
01:37:58 ...he only has to ask for it!
01:38:04 Why, it's a lion I married.
01:38:07 A lion. A lion.
01:38:15 This is good.
01:38:20 It's very good.
01:38:22 Sorry, Sir Thomas!
01:38:24 -Oh, for pity's sake!
01:38:26 -But one more minute!
01:38:29 -Come along, Miss.
01:38:31 Now, don't do that, sir.
01:38:35 Now, madam, don't make trouble.
01:38:40 Come along, please, Lady Alice.
01:38:46 Take your muddy paws off me!
01:38:49 Filthy, stinking, gutter-fed, turnkey!
01:38:52 I'll see you suffer for this!
01:38:56 Goodbye.
01:39:12 You must understand my position, sir.
01:39:14 I'm a plain, simple man
01:39:27 Dear Lord Jesus, my soul Saviour,
01:39:33 Dear Lady, Blessed Mother of God,
01:39:38 ...and forgive me for them.
01:40:42 Sir Thomas More, though you have
01:40:46 ...we hope that if you'll even now
01:40:51 ...you may still taste his gracious pardon.
01:40:55 My lords, I thank you.
01:40:58 As for the matters
01:41:00 ...I fear from my present weakness,
01:41:04 ...nor my memory will serve...
01:41:07 ...to make sufficient answer.
01:41:10 I should be glad to sit down.
01:41:12 A chair for the prisoner.
01:41:28 Master Secretary Cromwell,
01:41:30 -I have, my lord.
01:41:36 "That you did wilfully and maliciously
01:41:39 "...our liege, Lord Henry,
01:41:43 "...Supreme Head of the Church
01:41:48 But, I have never denied this title.
01:41:53 At Westminster Hall, at Lambeth,
01:41:57 ...you stubbornly refused the oath.
01:41:59 Was this no denial?
01:42:01 No, this was silence.
01:42:03 And for my silence,
01:42:07 -Why have I been called again?
01:42:12 For which the punishment
01:42:16 Death...
01:42:17 ...comes for us all, my lords.
01:42:20 Yes, even for kings he comes.
01:42:22 The death of kings is not in question,
01:42:25 Nor mine, I trust, until I'm proven guilty.
01:42:28 Your life lies in your own hands, Thomas,
01:42:31 Is that so, my lord?
01:42:34 Then I'll keep a good grip on it.
01:42:42 So, Sir Thomas...
01:42:44 ...you stand on your silence?
01:42:47 I do.
01:42:49 But, gentlemen of the jury...
01:42:51 ...there are many kinds of silence.
01:42:55 Consider first the silence of a man
01:42:58 Suppose we go into the room
01:43:01 What do we hear?
01:43:04 Silence.
01:43:05 What does it betoken, this silence?
01:43:09 Nothing. This is silence pure and simple.
01:43:12 But let us take another case.
01:43:14 Suppose I were to take a dagger
01:43:16 ...and make to kill the prisoner with it.
01:43:18 And my lordships there, instead of crying
01:43:23 That would betoken!
01:43:25 It would betoken a willingness
01:43:28 And under the law,
01:43:32 So silence can,
01:43:36 ...speak.
01:43:38 Let us consider now the circumstances
01:43:43 The oath was put to loyal subjects
01:43:47 ...His Grace's title to be just and good!
01:43:49 But when it came to the prisoner,
01:43:53 He calls this "silence."
01:43:57 Yet, is there a man in this court....
01:44:00 Is there a man in this country...
01:44:03 ...who does not know
01:44:10 Yet, how can this be?
01:44:12 Because this silence betokened...
01:44:15 ...nay, this silence was not silence at all,
01:44:23 Not so.
01:44:26 Not so, Master Secretary.
01:44:30 The maxim of the law is,
01:44:33 If, therefore, you wish to construe
01:44:36 ...you must construe that I consented,
01:44:42 Is that in fact what the world
01:44:44 Do you pretend that is what you wish
01:44:48 The world must construe
01:44:51 This court must construe
01:45:03 My lords, I wish to call Sir Richard Rich!
01:45:08 Richard Rich, come into court.
01:45:11 Richard Rich!
01:45:33 "l do swear the evidence I'll give
01:45:36 "...the whole truth,
01:45:39 "So help me God," sir.
01:45:41 "So help me God."
01:45:45 Now Rich, on May 12,
01:45:49 -I was.
01:45:50 I was sent to carry away
01:45:53 -Did you talk with the prisoner?
01:45:55 Did you talk of the King's supremacy
01:45:58 Yes.
01:45:59 What did you say?
01:46:01 I said to him, "Supposing there were
01:46:04 "...to say that l, Richard Rich,
01:46:07 "Would not you, Master More,
01:46:10 "That I would," he said.
01:46:15 "For then you would be king."
01:46:19 Yes?
01:46:22 Then he said,
01:46:26 "How, if there were an act of parliament,
01:46:31 -This is true and then you said--
01:46:34 Continue.
01:46:38 But then I said,
01:46:42 "Parliament has made our King
01:46:44 "Why will you not accept him?"
01:46:50 Well?
01:46:54 And then he said,
01:46:59 Repeat the prisoner's words.
01:47:03 He said:
01:47:06 "Parliament had not the competence."
01:47:10 Or words to that effect.
01:47:13 He denied the title!
01:47:15 He did.
01:47:24 In good faith, Rich,
01:47:29 -Do you deny this?
01:47:32 You know if I were a man
01:47:35 ...I need not be here.
01:47:37 Now, I will take an oath.
01:47:41 If what Master Rich has said is true...
01:47:45 ...I pray I may never see God in the face.
01:47:49 Which I would not say, were it otherwise,
01:47:53 -That is not evidence.
01:47:56 Is it probable
01:48:01 ...the very point so urgently sought of me...
01:48:03 ...I should open my mind
01:48:09 Sir Richard, do you wish
01:48:13 No, my lord.
01:48:14 Is there anything you wish
01:48:17 No, my lord.
01:48:18 Have you anything to add?
01:48:20 No, my lord.
01:48:22 -Have you, Sir Thomas?
01:48:29 I am a dead man.
01:48:34 You have your will of me.
01:48:37 Then the witness may withdraw.
01:48:47 There is one question
01:48:52 That's a chain of office you're wearing.
01:49:03 The Red Dragon.
01:49:05 What's this?
01:49:06 Sir Richard is appointed
01:49:09 For Wales.
01:49:12 Why Richard, it profits a man nothing
01:49:19 But for Wales.
01:49:28 My lords! I've done.
01:49:31 The jury will retire
01:49:35 Considering the evidence, it shouldn't
01:49:42 Is it necessary?
01:49:50 Then is the prisoner guilty or not guilty?
01:49:58 Guilty, my lord!
01:50:09 Sir Thomas More,
01:50:13 -The sentence of the court--
01:50:16 When I was practising the law,
01:50:20 ...before pronouncing sentence,
01:50:24 Have you anything to say?
01:50:27 Yes.
01:50:38 Since the court has determined
01:50:42 ...God knoweth how...
01:50:45 ...I will now discharge my mind...
01:50:49 ...concerning the indictment
01:50:56 The indictment is grounded
01:51:01 ...which is directly repugnant...
01:51:04 ...to the law of God and His Holy Church.
01:51:07 The supreme government of which
01:51:12 ...may by any law
01:51:16 This was granted...
01:51:19 ...by the mouth...
01:51:21 ...of our Saviour, Christ Himself...
01:51:24 ...to St. Peter and the bishops of Rome
01:51:29 ...and was personally present...
01:51:35 ...here on earth.
01:51:38 It is therefore insufficient in law...
01:51:43 ...to charge any Christian to obey it.
01:51:47 And more than this...
01:51:48 ...the immunity of the Church is promised
01:51:53 ...and in the King's own coronation oath.
01:51:58 Now, we plainly see you are malicious!
01:52:01 Not so.
01:52:05 I am the King's true subject...
01:52:08 ...and I pray for him and all the realm.
01:52:13 I do none harm.
01:52:16 I say none harm.
01:52:18 I think none harm.
01:52:23 And if this be not enough
01:52:26 ...then in good faith, I long not to live.
01:52:31 Nevertheless...
01:52:34 ...it is not for the supremacy
01:52:38 ...but because I would not bend
01:52:50 You have been found guilty of high treason.
01:52:54 The sentence of the court
01:52:57 ...to the Tower of London...
01:53:01 ...until the day hence to the appointment...
01:53:05 ...for your execution!
01:53:22 I am commanded by the King to be brief...
01:53:26 ...and since I am
01:53:29 ...brief I will be.
01:53:32 I die His Majesty's good servant...
01:53:36 ...but God's first.
01:53:44 I forgive you, right readily.
01:53:52 Be not afraid of your office.
01:53:55 You send me to God.
01:53:59 You're very sure of that, Sir Thomas?
01:54:01 He will not refuse one who is so blithe
01:54:26 Thomas More's head was stuck
01:54:29 Then his daughter, Margaret,
01:54:34 Cromwell was beheaded for high treason
01:54:38 The Archbishop was burned at the stake.
01:54:41 The Duke of Norfolk should have
01:54:44 ...but the King died of syphilis
01:54:48 Richard Rich became
01:54:51 ...and died in his bed.