A Man for All Seasons
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Every second bastard born |
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But in Utopia that couldn't be. |
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For why? |
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-For there the priests are very holy. |
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Is it anything interesting, Matthew? |
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-Bless you, sir. I don't know. |
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To be sure, we have |
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-Oh, name some. |
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Man's a simpleton. |
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It's from Cardinal Wolsey. |
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What's he want? |
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-Me. |
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Now. |
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In Hampton Court? |
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-The King's business. |
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Mistress Anne Boleyn's business. |
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Well, it's all the Cardinal's business. |
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That's very true. And when the Cardinal |
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What is the man? A butcher's son. |
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Chancellor of England, too. |
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No, that's his office. What's the man? |
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Surely, Your Grace, |
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...we must think he was misplaced |
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That, at least, |
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A butcher's son and looks it. |
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His looks, yes, I give you his looks. |
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What was that you said, Richard? |
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Nothing, Sir Thomas, it was out of place. |
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And Wolsey's still a butcher. |
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And you're a member of the King's |
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That is why I must go. |
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The Duke would go |
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I might. |
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I'll be back for breakfast. |
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Go to bed. |
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"Dear Lord, give us rest tonight, |
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"Careful only for our soul's salvation. |
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And bless our lord, the King. |
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-"And bless our lord, the King." |
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Excuse me, gentlemen. |
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Keep clear of Wolsey, Thomas. |
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-Who is that? |
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-What's he want? |
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-Can you give him a position? |
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No. |
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-Sir Thomas. |
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-Did you recommend me? |
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Richard, I may have a position for you. |
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-What? What position? |
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For you all, boatman. |
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Thank you, sir. |
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Sir Thomas is here, Your Grace. |
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Master Cromwell. |
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You opposed me in the Council |
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Yes, Your Grace. |
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-You were the only one. |
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You're a fool. |
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Thank God there is only one fool |
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Why did you oppose me? |
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I thought Your Grace was wrong. |
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A matter of conscience. |
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You're a constant regret to me, Thomas. |
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If you could just see facts flat on... |
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...without that horrible moral squint. |
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With a little common sense, |
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The King. |
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Where's he been? Do you know? |
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I, Your Grace? |
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Spare me your discretion. |
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He's been to play in the muck again. |
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He's been to Mistress Anne Boleyn. |
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More, are you going to help me? |
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If Your Grace will be specific. |
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You're a plodder! All right, we'll plod. |
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The King wants a son. |
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I'm very sure the King needs no advice |
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Thomas, we're alone. |
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I didn't suppose there was, Your Grace. |
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Do you favour a change of dynasty? |
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For God's sake, Your Grace! |
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Then he needs a son. I repeat, |
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I pray for it daily. |
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God's death, he means it. |
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That thing out there, at least she's fertile. |
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-But she's not his wife. |
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...and she's barren as a brick. |
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There are precedents. |
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All right. Good. Pray by all means. |
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But in addition to prayer there is effort. |
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Have I your support, or have I not? |
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The Pope gave a dispensation, |
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...his brother's widow for state reasons. |
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We are to ask the Pope to dispense with |
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I don't like plodding, Thomas. Well? |
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Then, clearly all we have to do is |
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I think we might influence |
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By argument? |
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Argument certainly. And pressure. |
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Pressure, applied to the Church? |
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Pressure. |
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No, Your Grace, I'm not going to help you. |
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Then goodnight, Master More. |
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Let the dynasty die with Henry Vlll |
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Blood-witted barons ramping the country |
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Is that what you want? Very well. |
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England needs an heir. |
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Certain measures, perhaps regrettable... |
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...perhaps not, there's much in the Church |
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All right, regrettable. |
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Now, explain how you, as a councillor |
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...for the sake |
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I think that when statesmen forsake |
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...for the sake of their public duties... |
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...they lead their country |
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And we shall have my prayers |
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You'd like that, wouldn't you? |
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Yes, I should. |
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I'd like to be there when you try. |
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Who will wear this after me? |
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Who's our next chancellor? |
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-Fisher for me. |
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What about my secretary, |
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Cromwell. He's a very able man. |
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But? |
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Me rather than Cromwell. |
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Then, come down to earth. |
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Until you do... |
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...you and I are enemies. |
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As Your Grace wishes. |
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As God wills. |
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Perhaps, Your Grace. |
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More! You should have been a cleric! |
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Like yourself, Your Grace? |
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Goodnight, Sir Thomas. |
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Sir Thomas. |
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Sir Thomas. |
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Sir Thomas. |
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-What's this? |
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-Leicester? |
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My daughter has a case, sir, |
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Baked apples, sir. |
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To sweeten my judgement. |
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I'll give your daughter the same judgement |
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A fair one, quickly. |
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Bless you, sir. |
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I understand. Yes. I'll read it. |
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Good evening, Sir Thomas. |
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-I'll read it. |
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-I could illuminate it for you-- |
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Just a moment or two.... |
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Boat! |
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Sir? |
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Chelsea, sir? |
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Chelsea. |
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I expect you'll make it worth my while, sir. |
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-You've got a licence? |
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-Well then, the fares are fixed. |
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Hampton to Chelsea downstream, |
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Chelsea to Hampton upstream, |
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Whoever makes the regulations |
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No. Threepence if you get me home |
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Thank you, sir. |
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A nice cup, sir. |
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Yes. |
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That's worth money, sir. |
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Mind a way, sir. |
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Thank you, sir. |
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-Have you been here all night? |
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You said there was a post? |
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Yes. I'll offer you a post, with a house, |
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What post? |
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At the new school. |
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A teacher! |
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Richard, no one's going to give you |
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Master Cromwell says |
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Cromwell? |
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Well, if you know Cromwell |
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Sir Thomas? |
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If only you knew how much, |
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Not to a place at court. |
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Why not? |
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Look. |
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-What is it? |
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"l am the gift of Averil Machin." |
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And Averil Machin has a lawsuit |
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Italian silver. Take it. No joke. |
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Thank you. |
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What will you do with it? |
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Sell it. |
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-And buy what? |
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But Richard, that's a little bribe. |
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At court they offer you all sorts of things, |
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A man should go |
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Why not be a teacher? You'd be |
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-lf I was, who would know it? |
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God. Not a bad public, that. |
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And a quiet life. |
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You say that. |
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Yes, talking with the Cardinal. |
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It's eating your heart out, isn't it? |
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The divorce? |
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Boatman! |
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Sir? |
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-Take this gentleman to the New lnn! |
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Sir Thomas? |
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Thank you. |
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Be a teacher. |
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-Matthew. |
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-Lady Alice in bed? |
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-Lady Margaret? |
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The Master Roper's here, sir. |
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At this hour? Who let him in? |
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He's a hard man to keep out, sir. |
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Will wants to marry me, Father. |
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Well, he can't marry you. |
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Sir Thomas, I'm called to the Bar. |
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Oh, congratulations, Roper. |
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My family may not be at the palace, |
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There's nothing wrong |
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There's not much wrong with you. |
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Except you seem to need a clock. |
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I can buy a clock, sir. |
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Roper, the answer is no... |
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...and will be no as long as you're a heretic. |
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Now, that's a word I don't like, |
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It's not a likeable word or thing. |
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The Church is heretical! |
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Luther is an excommunicate! |
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From a heretic Church! |
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-Salvation by the shilling! And divorces! |
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-What I know, I'll say! |
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He's no sense of the time. |
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Now listen well. |
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Two years ago you were |
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Now you're a passionate Lutheran. |
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We must just pray |
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...your face is to the front again. |
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-ls your horse here? |
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Well, take a horse from the stables |
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Go along. |
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May I come again? |
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Yes. Soon. |
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Is that final, Father? |
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As long as he's a heretic, Meg, |
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What did Wolsey want? |
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Nice boy, young Will. |
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Terribly strong principles, though. |
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Clumsy, too. |
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-You're very pensive. |
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Was it the divorce? |
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To bed. |
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They're a cantankerous lot, the Ropers. |
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Old Roper was just the same-- |
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You don't want to talk about it. |
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No. |
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-I'm sorry you were awakened, chick. |
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What did Wolsey want? |
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-Will Roper's been. |
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Yes, he's been here all night. |
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-Why you don't beat that girl l-- |
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She's full of education |
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Goodnight, Meg. |
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Goodnight. |
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Marry Meg. A lawyer's son. |
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Well, she's a lawyer's daughter. |
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Norfolk spoke of you |
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Well, he's a dangerous friend then. |
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Wolsey's chancellor, God help him. |
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But Norfolk said, if Wolsey fell, you-- |
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If Wolsey fell, the splash would swamp |
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No. |
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There'll be no new chancellors |
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The Duke of Norfolk, |
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Have you any message for His Majesty? |
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If I had served God... |
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...one half so well as I've served my King... |
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...God would not have left me here, |
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Thank God you're dying here. |
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"l am straightly charged |
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"...here openly to declare |
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"...is beholden to this man. |
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"And how worthy he is |
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"And how dearly |
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"...not only for much good council... |
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"...deliberate council, |
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"...that which is privy to the King's person. |
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"This same Sir Thomas More... |
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"...here made before you all to be... |
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"...Lord Chancellor of the Realm." |
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Calm yourself, Matthew. |
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Fetch Lady Alice. |
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That's very well. |
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My lady! The King! |
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Now remember, the visit's a surprise. |
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But he'll know we're expecting him-- |
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It's a very great honour. |
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What's he really coming for? |
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To talk about the divorce. |
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-But he's had his answer. |
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Thomas! |
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Your Majesty does my house more honour |
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No ceremony Thomas, no ceremony! |
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A passing fancy. |
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Look. Mud. |
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By heaven, what an evening. |
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Lady Alice, |
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Yes, Your Grace. Well, no, Your Grace. |
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Well, that is, we are ready to entertain-- |
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This is my daughter Margaret, sire. |
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She's not yet had the honour |
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Why Margaret, |
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Answer, Margaret. |
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Among women, I pass for one, Your Grace. |
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Can you dance, too? |
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Not well, Your Grace. |
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Well, I dance superlatively! |
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That's a dancer's leg, Margaret! |
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Lady Alice, |
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If Your Grace would share |
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It would please me. Lead them in. |
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Thomas and I will follow. |
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Matthew. |
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My lords and gentlemen! |
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Margaret? |
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Your Grace? |
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Do you like music? |
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Yes, Your Grace. |
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They'll play to you. |
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Now, listen to this. |
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Sit down. |
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Be seated. No courtship, Thomas. |
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You're my friend, are you not? |
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Your Majesty. |
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Thank God I have a friend |
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Readier to befriend, I trust, |
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My own knowledge of my poor abilities-- |
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I will judge of your abilities. |
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Thomas? |
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You know that Wolsey named you |
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Before he died, Wolsey named you, |
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He was a statesman |
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Was he? |
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Was he so? |
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Then, why did he fail me? |
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It was villainy then. |
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Yes, villainy. Secret opposition, secret. |
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But deliberate, wilful, |
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Wanted to be pope to master me, Wolsey. |
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What is it? Thought! |
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Because I'm simple and plain and deal |
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Because of that I say, |
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Wolsey was a proud man, Thomas. |
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Pride right through. |
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And he failed me. |
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Failed me in the one thing that matters, |
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But look. |
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Be seated. |
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What an evening. |
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A man could fight a lion. |
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Some men could, Your Grace. |
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Thomas... |
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...touching this matter of my divorce. |
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Have you thought of it |
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Of little else. |
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Then you see your way clear to me? |
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That you should put away |
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Alas, as I think of it, I see so clearly... |
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...that I cannot come with Your Grace, |
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...not to think of it at all. |
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Then you haven't thought enough! |
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Lilac. |
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We have them at Hampton. |
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Not so fine as this, though. |
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I'm in an excellent frame of mind. |
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Thomas, you must consider, |
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It was no marriage. |
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I have lived in incest |
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Leviticus: "Thou shalt not uncover |
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Leviticus. Chapter 18, verse 16. |
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Yes, Your Grace. But Deuteronomy-- |
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Deuteronomy is ambiguous! |
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Your Grace, I'm not fitted |
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To me, it seems a matter for the Holy See-- |
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Thomas, does a man need a pope |
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It was a sin. |
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God's punished me. |
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I've no son. |
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Son after son she's borne me. |
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All dead at birth, or dead within the month. |
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I never saw the hand of God |
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It's my bounden duty |
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And all the popes, back to Peter, |
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How is it that you cannot see? |
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Then, why does Your Grace |
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Because you're honest. |
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And what is more to the purpose, |
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Those like Norfolk follow me |
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Those like Cromwell follow |
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...and I'm their tiger. A mass follows me... |
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...because it follows anything that moves. |
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And then there's you. |
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I am sick to think |
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No, Thomas, I respect your sincerity. |
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But respect... |
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...man, that's water in the desert. |
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How'd you like our music? |
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That air they played, it had a certain.... |
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Well, tell me what you thought of it. |
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Could it have been Your Grace's own? |
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Discovered! |
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Now I'll never know your true opinion, |
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Well, we artists, we love praise, |
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-Then I will tell my true opinion. |
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To me it seemed delightful. |
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Thomas, I chose the right man |
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I should in fairness add that my taste |
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Your taste in music is excellent! |
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It exactly coincides with my own. |
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Music. |
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Music. |
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Send them back without me, Thomas. |
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My house is at Your Grace's disposal. |
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Touching this other business, mark you... |
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...I'll have no opposition. |
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Your Grace. |
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No opposition, I say. No opposition. |
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Be seated. |
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I'll leave you out of it |
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I don't take it kindly |
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I see how it will be. |
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The bishops will oppose me! |
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The full-fed princes of the Church! |
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Mind they do not take you in, Thomas! |
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Your Grace is unjust. |
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If I cannot serve Your Grace |
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I have no queen! |
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Catherine's not my wife! |
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No priest can make her so. |
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They that say she is my wife |
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Yes, traitors! |
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That I will not brook now! |
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Treachery! |
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I will not brook. |
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It maddens me! |
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It is a deadly canker in the body politic, |
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See? |
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You see how you've maddened me? |
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I hardly know myself. |
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If you could come with me, |
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...yes, with my own hand. |
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Your Grace overwhelms me. |
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What's that? |
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Eight o'clock, Your Grace. |
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Lift yourself up, man. |
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Have I not promised I'll leave you out of it? |
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Shall we eat? |
00:40:59 |
If Your Grace pleases. |
00:41:04 |
Eight o'clock, you said. |
00:41:07 |
The tide will be turning. |
00:41:09 |
-I was forgetting the tide. I must go. |
00:41:13 |
If I don't catch the tide |
00:41:16 |
No, don't come. |
00:41:21 |
Lady Alice, I must go and catch the tide. |
00:41:24 |
So we give you our thanks |
00:41:48 |
What's this? |
00:41:50 |
-You crossed him! |
00:41:52 |
-Why? |
00:41:54 |
You're too nice altogether, Thomas. |
00:41:56 |
-Woman, mind your house! |
00:42:03 |
God save Your Majesty! |
00:42:06 |
God save Your Grace! |
00:42:15 |
God save the King! |
00:42:19 |
Lift! |
00:42:28 |
Drop blades! |
00:42:31 |
Sire! Sire! Sire! |
00:43:04 |
Are you coming my way, Rich? |
00:43:09 |
No. |
00:43:12 |
I think you should, you know. |
00:43:14 |
I can't tell you anything. |
00:43:23 |
Well? |
00:43:36 |
Thomas? |
00:43:39 |
Stay friends with him. |
00:43:43 |
Whatever may be done by smiling, |
00:43:53 |
Set your mind at rest. |
00:43:55 |
This is not the stuff |
00:44:08 |
Good evening, sir, Lady Alice. |
00:44:12 |
Will wants to talk to you, Father. |
00:44:15 |
I told him it wouldn't be convenient. |
00:44:17 |
You were quite right. |
00:44:19 |
You're very free |
00:44:22 |
Yes. |
00:44:24 |
It's of that I wish to speak. |
00:44:26 |
Sir, you've had a disagreement |
00:44:30 |
-Have l? |
00:44:32 |
I offer my congratulations. |
00:44:34 |
If it's true, |
00:44:37 |
Yes! |
00:44:41 |
Sir, when last I asked you |
00:44:46 |
...you objected to my unorthodox opinions. |
00:44:50 |
-I did. |
00:44:51 |
Well, since then my views |
00:44:58 |
Well, that's good hearing, Will. |
00:45:00 |
Mind you, I modify nothing concerning |
00:45:04 |
-Quite right. |
00:45:07 |
...no. I see behind that an attack on God. |
00:45:09 |
-Roper! |
00:45:11 |
...to be done by the Devil's ministers! |
00:45:13 |
For heaven's sake, remember my office. |
00:45:15 |
If you stand on your office-- |
00:45:16 |
No, I don't stand on it, |
00:45:21 |
Sir Thomas. |
00:45:24 |
Richard? |
00:45:26 |
I fell. |
00:45:29 |
Lady Alice. |
00:45:30 |
-Lady Margaret. |
00:45:32 |
Do you know William Roper, the younger? |
00:45:34 |
By reputation, of course. |
00:45:36 |
-Good evening, Master.... |
00:45:46 |
You've heard of me? |
00:45:47 |
Yes. |
00:45:49 |
In what connection? |
00:45:58 |
I sense that I'm not welcome here. |
00:46:00 |
Why Richard? Have you done something |
00:46:03 |
Cromwell is asking questions. |
00:46:05 |
About you. He's always asking |
00:46:08 |
Of whom? |
00:46:11 |
Of him, for one. That's one of his sources. |
00:46:14 |
Of course. That's one of my servants. |
00:46:18 |
All right, Matthew. |
00:46:25 |
Well, you look at me |
00:46:29 |
Why Richard, you're shaking. |
00:46:33 |
Help me. |
00:46:35 |
How? |
00:46:36 |
Employ me. |
00:46:38 |
No. |
00:46:40 |
-Employ me! |
00:46:56 |
I would be faithful. |
00:47:02 |
You couldn't answer for yourself |
00:47:17 |
Arrest him! |
00:47:19 |
-For what? |
00:47:20 |
-Libel. He's a spy! |
00:47:22 |
-There's no law against that. |
00:47:24 |
-Then God can arrest him. |
00:47:27 |
Go he should, if he were the Devil, |
00:47:30 |
-Now you give the Devil benefit of law! |
00:47:33 |
Cut a road through the law |
00:47:36 |
Yes. I'd cut down every law in England |
00:47:39 |
And when the last law was down, |
00:47:42 |
...where would you hide, Roper, |
00:47:45 |
This country is planted with laws |
00:47:48 |
...Man's laws, not God's, |
00:47:51 |
...and you're just the man to do it... |
00:47:53 |
...do you really think you could stand |
00:47:58 |
Yes. |
00:47:59 |
I give the Devil benefit of law |
00:48:39 |
-Master Rich? |
00:48:41 |
In there, sir. |
00:48:48 |
Rich? Come in. |
00:48:54 |
Taken you long enough to get here. |
00:48:56 |
Have I kept you waiting? |
00:48:59 |
Months. |
00:49:02 |
-Here. |
00:49:06 |
Do you know the news? |
00:49:08 |
-What news? |
00:49:12 |
And I succeed him. |
00:49:15 |
Secretary to the Council? |
00:49:17 |
You? |
00:49:19 |
'Tis surprising, isn't it? |
00:49:22 |
I mean, one sees that's logical. |
00:49:26 |
Sit down, Rich. |
00:49:29 |
...as His Majesty would say. |
00:49:34 |
You see how I trust you. |
00:49:37 |
I'd never repeat or report a thing like that. |
00:49:41 |
What kind of thing |
00:49:46 |
Nothing said in friendship. |
00:49:48 |
Do you believe that? |
00:49:49 |
-Why, yes. |
00:49:51 |
Well, yes. |
00:49:53 |
Rich, seriously. |
00:50:02 |
That would depend what I was offered. |
00:50:07 |
Don't say it just to please me. |
00:50:08 |
It's true. It would depend |
00:50:13 |
Well, there is another post vacant. |
00:50:16 |
Collector of Revenues for York. |
00:50:19 |
Is it in your gift? |
00:50:20 |
Effectively. |
00:50:23 |
What must I do for it? |
00:50:27 |
I know a man |
00:50:32 |
Normally a matter of small importance, |
00:50:34 |
...it's our liege, Lord Henry, |
00:50:38 |
Which is a quaint way of saying that |
00:50:42 |
And our job as administrators... |
00:50:45 |
...is to minimise the inconvenience |
00:50:49 |
That's our only job, Rich, |
00:50:54 |
A harmless occupation |
00:50:57 |
We administrators are not liked, Rich. |
00:51:00 |
We are not popular. |
00:51:02 |
I say "we" on the assumption you'll accept |
00:51:11 |
Yes. |
00:51:20 |
It's a bad sign when people are depressed |
00:51:23 |
-I'm not depressed. |
00:51:25 |
I was lamenting. I've lost my innocence. |
00:51:27 |
Some time ago. |
00:51:32 |
Your friend, our present Lord Chancellor, |
00:51:38 |
The odd thing is, he is. |
00:51:40 |
Yes, I say he is. Unhappily... |
00:51:43 |
...his innocence is tangled up |
00:51:45 |
...that you can't change your woman |
00:51:48 |
...and you can't get a divorce |
00:51:51 |
And from this meaningless circumstance, |
00:51:56 |
-lnconvenience? |
00:51:59 |
This goblet he gave you, |
00:52:03 |
Come along, he gave you a silver goblet. |
00:52:08 |
Fifty shillings. |
00:52:09 |
It was a gift, wasn't it, |
00:52:12 |
-Yes. |
00:52:16 |
Don't get drunk! |
00:52:18 |
Which court was the litigant's case? |
00:52:23 |
Court of Requests. |
00:52:26 |
There. That wasn't too painful, was it? |
00:52:32 |
-No. |
00:52:33 |
And you'll find it easier, next time. |
00:53:10 |
My Lord Archbishop, my lords... |
00:53:13 |
...Reverend Doctors of the Church. |
00:53:15 |
The answer of our liege, Lord Henry... |
00:53:18 |
...to his trusty well-beloved subjects... |
00:53:20 |
...pontiffs in the Canterbury Convocation. |
00:53:25 |
"His Majesty... |
00:53:26 |
"...acknowledges your humble admission |
00:53:31 |
"...for which he accepts... |
00:53:32 |
"...the manumission of £100,000 in token. |
00:53:39 |
"Mindful for the well-being of the realm |
00:53:43 |
"...His Majesty requires that you do now |
00:53:47 |
"...allegiance to the See of Rome. |
00:53:50 |
"And admit the statute |
00:53:54 |
"...acknowledging the King's good title... |
00:53:57 |
"...Supreme Head of the Church |
00:54:05 |
Well, my lords, what's your answer? |
00:54:09 |
Yea or nay? |
00:54:14 |
His Majesty accepts your resignation |
00:54:17 |
He's mindful of your goodness |
00:54:19 |
And in any matter concerning your honour |
00:54:25 |
You will convey my humble gratitude. |
00:54:33 |
-Help me with this. |
00:54:39 |
-Alice? |
00:54:41 |
Sun and moon, Master More, you're taken |
00:54:46 |
To betray your ability... |
00:54:48 |
...abandon your station |
00:54:52 |
Shall l, sir? |
00:54:55 |
No, thank you, son Roper. |
00:55:00 |
Margaret... |
00:55:02 |
...will you? |
00:55:04 |
Yes. |
00:55:11 |
If you want. |
00:55:17 |
There's my clever girl. |
00:55:22 |
Well done, sir! In my opinion, |
00:55:27 |
I'll tell you my opinion |
00:55:29 |
Don't! Will, silence! |
00:55:34 |
...and may have children. |
00:55:47 |
All right, Thomas, make me understand... |
00:55:49 |
...because I tell you, |
00:55:52 |
All right, I will. |
00:55:53 |
This isn't reformation, |
00:55:57 |
Our King has declared war on the Pope |
00:56:00 |
-...that our Queen is not his wife. |
00:56:06 |
Is she? |
00:56:10 |
Have I your word that what we say here |
00:56:12 |
Very well. |
00:56:14 |
And if the King should command you |
00:56:17 |
I should keep my word to you. |
00:56:19 |
Then what has become of your oath |
00:56:26 |
You lay traps for me! |
00:56:27 |
No, I show you the times. |
00:56:33 |
We are at war with the Pope. |
00:56:37 |
He is. He's also the descendant |
00:56:41 |
So you believe. |
00:56:45 |
...which includes the respect |
00:56:48 |
Because what matters |
00:56:51 |
...not that I believe it, but that I believe it. |
00:56:55 |
-I trust I make myself obscure? |
00:57:01 |
Why do you insult me |
00:57:05 |
Because I'm afraid. |
00:57:07 |
Man, you're ill. |
00:57:12 |
This isn't Spain, you know. |
00:57:33 |
My friends, you all know |
00:57:37 |
I have today resigned my office. |
00:57:43 |
I am no longer a great man. |
00:57:47 |
Sir, we want you to know |
00:57:51 |
My side? What side is that? |
00:57:54 |
Well, sir, we all know what you think. |
00:57:56 |
None of you knows what I think. |
00:57:58 |
...and babble it about, |
00:58:03 |
Since I am no more a great man, |
00:58:06 |
Nor can I afford one. You will have to go. |
00:58:11 |
However, I still number some great men |
00:58:14 |
...and they still need great households. |
00:58:17 |
No one will be turned away |
00:58:20 |
-We can't find places for them all. |
00:58:25 |
Thank you. |
00:58:28 |
That is all. |
00:58:39 |
What about you, Matthew? |
00:58:45 |
Will you stay? |
00:58:46 |
Well, sir, that's according. |
00:58:48 |
There will be more work and less money. |
00:58:52 |
Well then, I don't see how I can then, sir. |
00:58:56 |
Quite right, Matthew. Why should you? |
00:59:01 |
Oh, no, sir, you see through me, sir. |
00:59:08 |
I shall miss you. |
00:59:21 |
Damn me! Isn't that them all over! |
00:59:23 |
Miss me? What's in me for him to miss? |
00:59:26 |
"Matthew, will you take a cut in wages?" |
00:59:30 |
And that's it. And that's all of it! All right, |
00:59:36 |
I don't mind saying |
00:59:38 |
If I had good luck to spare |
00:59:40 |
I wish we could have good luck |
00:59:42 |
I wish rainwater was beer! |
00:59:57 |
Well, there's an end of you. |
01:00:00 |
What'll you do now? Sit by the fire... |
01:00:02 |
...and make goslings in the ash? |
01:00:05 |
Not at all, Alice. |
01:00:07 |
I expect I'll write a bit... |
01:00:11 |
...I'll write... |
01:00:13 |
...I'll read, I'll think. |
01:00:17 |
I think I'll learn to fish. |
01:00:20 |
I'll play with my grandchildren |
01:00:26 |
-Alice, shall I teach you to read? |
01:00:32 |
Poor, silly man, |
01:00:35 |
If we govern our tongues, they will! |
01:00:41 |
I have a word to say on that. I've made |
01:00:47 |
The King is made, by act of parliament, |
01:00:50 |
This English Church will divorce him from |
01:00:55 |
But on any of these matters, |
01:00:58 |
No. |
01:01:00 |
If I'm to lose my rank and fall to |
01:01:03 |
-So make a statement now. |
01:01:06 |
Alice, it's a point of law. |
01:01:08 |
...that in silence is my safety, |
01:01:11 |
And my silence must be absolute, |
01:01:15 |
In short, you don't trust me. |
01:01:21 |
I'm the Lord Chief Justice, |
01:01:25 |
I take your hand... |
01:01:26 |
...I clamp it on the Bible, |
01:01:30 |
"Woman, has your husband |
01:01:34 |
"On peril of your soul remember, |
01:01:39 |
No. |
01:01:41 |
And so it must remain. |
01:01:53 |
Have you opened your mind to Meg? |
01:01:55 |
Would I tell Meg what I won't tell you? |
01:01:59 |
Meg has your heart. |
01:02:13 |
This is a dangerous matter then... |
01:02:16 |
...if you've not told Meg. |
01:02:19 |
I don't think so. No. |
01:02:23 |
When they find I'm silent... |
01:02:25 |
...they'll want nothing better |
01:02:30 |
You'll see. |
01:02:52 |
But he's silent, Master Secretary, |
01:02:56 |
Your Grace, not being a man of letters... |
01:02:59 |
...you perhaps don't realise |
01:03:02 |
This silence of his |
01:03:05 |
In Europe he is claimed |
01:03:07 |
Rubbish! Crank he may be, |
01:03:10 |
Exactly. And with a little pressure.... |
01:03:13 |
With a little pressure |
01:03:15 |
That's all we need. |
01:03:18 |
-...to the present administration. |
01:03:22 |
The King does not agree with you. |
01:03:30 |
What kind of pressure do you think |
01:03:34 |
I have evidence that Sir Thomas, |
01:03:38 |
What? |
01:03:40 |
Goddammit! He was the only judge |
01:03:43 |
When was there a chancellor |
01:03:47 |
...totalled £100 and a gold chain? |
01:03:53 |
It is, as you imply, common practice... |
01:03:56 |
...but a practice may be common |
01:03:59 |
This offence could send a man |
01:04:06 |
Come here. |
01:04:08 |
This woman's name is Averil Machin. |
01:04:12 |
-She entered a case-- |
01:04:14 |
Shut your mouth. |
01:04:16 |
A property case in the Court of Requests |
01:04:19 |
And got a wicked false judgement! |
01:04:20 |
And got an impeccably correct judgement |
01:04:23 |
-No, sir, it was not! |
01:04:25 |
...about the gift you gave the judge. |
01:04:29 |
I gave him a cup, sir. |
01:04:30 |
A silver ltalian cup I bought in Leicester, |
01:04:34 |
Did Sir Thomas accept this cup? |
01:04:36 |
Yes, sir, he did. |
01:04:37 |
He did accept it. We can corroborate that. |
01:04:41 |
-To my way of thinking-- |
01:04:51 |
-ls that your witness? |
01:04:55 |
By an odd coincidence that cup later |
01:05:01 |
How? |
01:05:05 |
-He gave it to me, Your Grace. |
01:05:08 |
A gift. |
01:05:10 |
Yes, you were a friend, weren't you? |
01:05:14 |
When did Thomas give you this thing? |
01:05:17 |
I can't exactly remember. |
01:05:21 |
Do you "remember" what you did with it? |
01:05:24 |
-I sold it. |
01:05:26 |
-A shop. |
01:05:30 |
No. They've lost all track of it. |
01:05:32 |
How convenient. |
01:05:35 |
You doubt Master Rich's word, |
01:05:38 |
It had occurred to me. |
01:05:43 |
This is the bill of sale. |
01:05:55 |
That cow put her case into court in April, |
01:06:01 |
In other words, the moment Thomas knew |
01:06:04 |
...he dropped it into the nearest gutter. |
01:06:10 |
The facts will bear that interpretation, |
01:06:14 |
This is a horse that won't run, |
01:06:16 |
Just a trial gallop. |
01:06:19 |
-I want no part of it. |
01:06:24 |
What's that you say? |
01:06:27 |
The King particularly wishes you |
01:06:31 |
He's not told me that. |
01:06:33 |
Indeed? He told me. |
01:06:39 |
Look here, Cromwell... |
01:06:40 |
...what's the purpose of all this? |
01:06:43 |
There you have me. |
01:06:45 |
It's a matter of conscience, I think. |
01:06:48 |
The King wants Sir Thomas |
01:06:52 |
If Sir Thomas appeared at the wedding |
01:06:58 |
He won't attend the wedding. |
01:07:01 |
If I were you, I'd try and persuade him. |
01:07:04 |
I really would try, if I were you. |
01:07:09 |
Cromwell, are you threatening me? |
01:07:12 |
My dear Norfolk, this isn't Spain. |
01:07:16 |
This is England! |
01:09:29 |
Thomas? Thomas! |
01:10:34 |
Lady Margaret? |
01:10:36 |
Yes. |
01:10:39 |
We've been cutting greens. |
01:10:44 |
I have a letter for your father, |
01:10:52 |
He's to answer certain charges |
01:10:59 |
Good of you to come, Sir Thomas. |
01:11:06 |
Master Rich will make a record |
01:11:09 |
Good of you to tell me, Master Secretary. |
01:11:11 |
I think you know one another. |
01:11:12 |
Indeed yes, we're old friends. |
01:11:15 |
That's a nice gown you have, Richard. |
01:11:23 |
Sir Thomas, believe me. |
01:11:25 |
No, that's asking too much. |
01:11:29 |
You have no more sincere admirer |
01:11:34 |
No, not yet, Rich, not yet. |
01:11:40 |
If I might hear the charges. |
01:11:42 |
-The charges? |
01:11:45 |
Some ambiguities of behaviour |
01:11:48 |
Make a note of that, will you, Master Rich? |
01:11:53 |
Sir Thomas, Sir Thomas. |
01:12:00 |
The King is not pleased with you. |
01:12:03 |
I am grieved. |
01:12:06 |
And yet, do you know that even now, |
01:12:09 |
...to agree with the Church, |
01:12:13 |
...there is no honour which His Majesty |
01:12:17 |
I am well acquainted with |
01:12:23 |
Very well. |
01:12:26 |
You have heard of the so-called |
01:12:31 |
...who was executed for prophesying |
01:12:33 |
-Yes, I met her. |
01:12:35 |
Yet you did not warn His Majesty |
01:12:39 |
She spoke no treason. |
01:12:43 |
But the woman was notorious. |
01:12:46 |
-Happily, there were witnesses. |
01:12:49 |
Yes. I wrote, advising her to abstain |
01:12:54 |
I have a copy of the letter. Also witnessed. |
01:12:59 |
-You have been cautious. |
01:13:11 |
In the June of 1521, |
01:13:16 |
A theological work. |
01:13:19 |
It was called, |
01:13:21 |
For which he was named "Defender |
01:13:26 |
By the Bishop of Rome, |
01:13:30 |
No. "Bishop of Rome" if you like. |
01:13:35 |
Thank you. You come to the point |
01:13:40 |
For example, in the Church of England... |
01:13:42 |
...what exactly is |
01:13:45 |
You will find it very ably set out |
01:13:50 |
...in the King's book. |
01:13:52 |
In the book published under |
01:13:55 |
-You wrote this book. |
01:13:58 |
I don't mean you actually held the pen. |
01:14:00 |
I answered to my best ability, |
01:14:03 |
...which the King put to me, |
01:14:05 |
Do you deny you instigated it? |
01:14:07 |
It was from first to last |
01:14:10 |
The King says not. |
01:14:14 |
The King knows the truth of it. |
01:14:18 |
And whatever he may have said to you... |
01:14:20 |
...he will not give evidence |
01:14:24 |
Why not? |
01:14:26 |
Because evidence is given on oath, |
01:14:30 |
If you don't know that, |
01:14:39 |
Sir Thomas More. |
01:14:41 |
Have you anything to say... |
01:14:42 |
...regarding the King's marriage |
01:14:45 |
I understood |
01:14:47 |
Then you understood wrongly. |
01:14:50 |
They are terrors for children, |
01:14:59 |
Then know that the King |
01:15:02 |
...in his name, with great ingratitude! |
01:15:05 |
And to tell you that there never was, |
01:15:09 |
...nor so traitorous a subject, as yourself! |
01:15:14 |
So... |
01:15:17 |
...I am brought here at last. |
01:15:21 |
Brought? |
01:15:23 |
You've brought yourself |
01:15:28 |
You may go. |
01:15:34 |
For the present. |
01:15:41 |
What will you do now? |
01:15:45 |
Whatever's necessary. |
01:15:56 |
Boat! |
01:16:13 |
Oh, come, come, it's not as bad as all that! |
01:16:21 |
Howard! |
01:16:28 |
I can't get home. |
01:16:30 |
They won't bring me a boat. |
01:16:32 |
Do you blame them? |
01:16:34 |
Is it as bad as that? |
01:16:36 |
It's every bit as bad as that! |
01:16:39 |
Then it's good of you to be seen with me. |
01:16:42 |
I followed you. |
01:16:44 |
Were you followed? |
01:16:56 |
-You're dangerous to know! |
01:16:58 |
-I do know you. |
01:17:00 |
-I am your friend. I wish I wasn't, but I am. |
01:17:04 |
-Give in. |
01:17:06 |
Our friendship's more mutable than that. |
01:17:09 |
The one fixed point in the world |
01:17:11 |
-...is that Sir More won't give in. |
01:17:15 |
Affection goes as deep in me |
01:17:18 |
But only God is love right through, |
01:17:24 |
And who are you? |
01:17:27 |
A lawyer! And a lawyer's son! |
01:17:29 |
We're supposed to be the proud ones, |
01:17:33 |
Why must you stand out? |
01:17:35 |
Goddammit man! It's disproportionate! |
01:17:41 |
You'll break my heart. |
01:17:44 |
No one is safe, Howard, |
01:17:50 |
We'll end our friendship now. |
01:17:53 |
-For friendship's sake? |
01:17:56 |
Daft! |
01:18:04 |
Norfolk, you're a fool! |
01:18:07 |
You can't place a quarrel, |
01:18:10 |
Hear me out. You and your class |
01:18:13 |
...'cause this country's religion |
01:18:16 |
Well, that's a foolish saying for a start! |
01:18:19 |
The nobility of England-- |
01:18:21 |
The nobility of England would have |
01:18:25 |
But you'll labour like scholars |
01:18:29 |
An artificial quarrel is not a quarrel. |
01:18:31 |
We've had a quarrel since the day we met. |
01:18:35 |
You can be cruel when you want, |
01:18:38 |
What do you value in your bulldogs? |
01:18:43 |
-Yes. |
01:18:44 |
-Yes. |
01:18:46 |
It's so with men. |
01:18:47 |
I will not give in, because I oppose it. |
01:18:49 |
Not my pride, not my spleen, |
01:18:56 |
Is there, in the midst of all this muscle, |
01:19:00 |
...of Norfolk's, but is just Norfolk? |
01:19:02 |
-Give that some exercise, my lord! |
01:19:04 |
As you stand you'll go before your Maker |
01:19:07 |
Now steady. |
01:19:08 |
And he'll think that, somewhere back along |
01:19:26 |
Cast in this very house |
01:19:30 |
...it is a matter very fit |
01:19:35 |
...in parliament, to take in hand. |
01:19:37 |
Or, in consequence of the decay of guilds... |
01:19:42 |
...the woolen cloth, now coming out |
01:19:46 |
...and the like, is not to blame and this.... |
01:19:51 |
I will defer the rest of my matter to later. |
01:20:01 |
That the loyal Commons, here assembled, |
01:20:06 |
For as much as it concerns the King's |
01:20:10 |
Both matters pleasing to a loyal subject. |
01:20:15 |
Mark, my Masters... |
01:20:17 |
...there is among us |
01:20:22 |
...to which deceit |
01:20:24 |
And we, his loyal huntsmen, must now |
01:20:58 |
Father? |
01:20:59 |
Margaret! |
01:21:01 |
I couldn't get a boat. |
01:21:03 |
What is it, Meg? |
01:21:05 |
Father, there's a new act |
01:21:10 |
And by this act, |
01:21:12 |
...about the marriage. |
01:21:15 |
On what compulsion is the oath? |
01:21:18 |
-High treason. |
01:21:20 |
Do the words matter? |
01:21:22 |
Tell me the words. |
01:21:23 |
An oath is made of words. |
01:21:26 |
Take it? |
01:21:27 |
And if it can be taken, |
01:21:30 |
No! |
01:21:31 |
Listen, Meg. God made the angels |
01:21:36 |
As he made animals for innocence |
01:21:40 |
But Man he made to serve him wittily, |
01:21:45 |
If he suffers us to come to such a case |
01:21:49 |
...then we may stand to our tackle |
01:21:51 |
And yes, Meg, then we can clamour |
01:21:56 |
But it's God's part, not our own, |
01:22:00 |
Our natural business lies in escaping. |
01:22:06 |
If I can take this oath, I will. |
01:22:13 |
I would, for my sake, |
01:22:14 |
I never took a man into the Tower |
01:22:17 |
Thank you, Master Governor. |
01:22:22 |
Thank you. |
01:22:25 |
Sir Thomas. |
01:23:56 |
Sir Thomas. |
01:24:01 |
Sir Thomas! |
01:24:22 |
This is iniquitous. |
01:24:27 |
-Where to this time? |
01:25:24 |
Sit down. |
01:25:33 |
This is the Seventh Commission |
01:25:36 |
...of Sir Thomas More, appointed |
01:25:39 |
Have you anything to say? |
01:25:41 |
No. |
01:25:45 |
-Seen this document before? |
01:25:47 |
It is the Act of Succession. |
01:25:48 |
These are the names |
01:25:51 |
-I have, as you say, seen it before. |
01:25:54 |
No. |
01:25:55 |
Thomas, we must know-- |
01:26:01 |
We must know plainly whether you |
01:26:05 |
...as heirs to the throne. |
01:26:07 |
The King in parliament |
01:26:10 |
-Of course I recognise them. |
01:26:12 |
-Yes. |
01:26:15 |
Because there is more than that in the act. |
01:26:18 |
Just so. Sir Thomas, it states in the |
01:26:23 |
...to the Lady Catherine was unlawful... |
01:26:25 |
...she being his brother's widow and |
01:26:30 |
Is that what you deny? |
01:26:38 |
Is that what you dispute? |
01:26:46 |
Is that what you are not sure of? |
01:26:55 |
You insult His Majesty and Council |
01:26:59 |
I insult no one. |
01:27:01 |
I will not take the oath. |
01:27:04 |
-Then your reasons must be treasonable! |
01:27:08 |
It's a fair assumption! |
01:27:10 |
The law requires more than an assumption, |
01:27:13 |
Of course, I cannot judge |
01:27:17 |
...but until I know the ground |
01:27:19 |
...I can only guess |
01:27:24 |
If you're willing to guess that, it should be |
01:27:27 |
Then you do have objections to the act? |
01:27:29 |
Well, we know that, Cromwell! |
01:27:31 |
No, my lord, you don't. |
01:27:33 |
You may suppose I have objections, |
01:27:37 |
...for which you cannot lawfully |
01:27:40 |
But if you were right in supposing me |
01:27:44 |
...in supposing my objections |
01:27:47 |
...the law would let you cut my head off. |
01:27:51 |
Oh, yes. |
01:27:54 |
Well done, Sir Thomas. |
01:27:56 |
I've been trying to make that clear |
01:28:00 |
Oh, confound all this! I'm not a scholar. |
01:28:02 |
I don't know if the marriage |
01:28:04 |
...but damn it, Thomas, |
01:28:07 |
Why can't you do as I did, |
01:28:11 |
And when we die, and you are sent |
01:28:15 |
...and I am sent to hell for not doing mine, |
01:28:21 |
So, those of us whose names are there, |
01:28:24 |
I have no window to look into |
01:28:27 |
I condemn no one. |
01:28:29 |
-Then the matter is capable of question? |
01:28:31 |
But that you owe obedience to the King |
01:28:34 |
So weigh a doubt against a certainty |
01:28:40 |
Some men think the earth is round, |
01:28:45 |
It is a matter capable of question. |
01:28:49 |
But if it is flat, |
01:28:53 |
And if it is round, |
01:28:57 |
No, I will not sign. |
01:29:00 |
Then you have more regard for |
01:29:03 |
-For myself I have no doubt. |
01:29:06 |
No doubt that I will not take this oath. |
01:29:08 |
But why I will not, you, |
01:29:12 |
I might get it out of you in other ways. |
01:29:16 |
You threaten like a dockside bully. |
01:29:19 |
How should I threaten? |
01:29:20 |
Like a minister of state, with justice! |
01:29:25 |
Justice is what you're threatened with. |
01:29:27 |
Then I am not threatened. |
01:29:35 |
Gentlemen, can't I go to bed? |
01:29:38 |
Aye. The prisoner may retire |
01:29:40 |
-Unless you-- |
01:29:47 |
Then, goodnight, Thomas. |
01:29:55 |
May I have one or two more books? |
01:29:58 |
Why, you have books? |
01:30:00 |
Yes. |
01:30:01 |
I didn't know, you shouldn't have. |
01:30:11 |
May I see my family? |
01:30:13 |
No. |
01:30:20 |
Captain! |
01:30:22 |
Master Secretary? |
01:30:24 |
Have you ever heard the prisoner speak |
01:30:28 |
-...or the King's marriage? |
01:30:30 |
If he does, you will repeat it to me. |
01:30:33 |
Of course. |
01:30:40 |
Rich. |
01:30:41 |
Secretary? |
01:30:42 |
Tomorrow morning, |
01:30:44 |
Is that necessary? |
01:30:46 |
With regards to this case, |
01:30:49 |
-Aye, with you. |
01:30:51 |
The King's impatience |
01:31:03 |
Master Secretary. |
01:31:07 |
Sir Redvers Llewellyn has retired. |
01:31:10 |
The Attorney General for Wales. |
01:31:12 |
His post is vacant. |
01:31:15 |
You said that I might approach you. |
01:31:18 |
Not now, Rich. |
01:31:23 |
He must submit. He must! |
01:31:26 |
Rack him. |
01:31:31 |
No. The King's conscience |
01:31:35 |
We have to find some other way. |
01:31:46 |
Sir Thomas! |
01:31:50 |
Father! |
01:31:51 |
What? Margaret? |
01:31:53 |
Father! |
01:31:55 |
Meg. For God's sake, |
01:31:58 |
-No, sir, a visit. |
01:32:00 |
Father. |
01:32:03 |
-Good morning, husband. |
01:32:08 |
Good morning, Will. |
01:32:15 |
Well, this is a hellish place! |
01:32:18 |
Except it's keeping me from you, |
01:32:21 |
It's remarkably like any other place. |
01:32:23 |
-lt drips! |
01:32:37 |
Well, what is it? |
01:32:40 |
Father, come out! |
01:32:46 |
Is this why they've let you come? |
01:32:48 |
Yes. |
01:32:52 |
Meg's under oath to persuade you. |
01:32:55 |
That was silly, Meg. |
01:33:05 |
How do you plan to do that? |
01:33:09 |
Father. |
01:33:11 |
"God more regards the thoughts |
01:33:14 |
-Well, so you've always told me. |
01:33:17 |
Then say the words of the oath |
01:33:20 |
What is an oath then, |
01:33:29 |
Listen, Meg. |
01:33:31 |
When a man takes an oath, he's holding |
01:33:36 |
...Iike water. |
01:33:37 |
And if he opens his fingers then, |
01:33:43 |
Some men aren't capable of this, but I'd be |
01:33:51 |
-I have another argument. |
01:33:53 |
In any state that was half good, |
01:33:58 |
-...for what you've done already. |
01:34:02 |
It's not your fault |
01:34:04 |
No. |
01:34:05 |
If you elect to suffer for it, |
01:34:08 |
That's very neat. |
01:34:10 |
But look now. If we lived in a state |
01:34:14 |
...common sense would make us saintly. |
01:34:16 |
But since we see that avarice, anger, |
01:34:21 |
...commonly profit far beyond charity, |
01:34:26 |
...perhaps we must stand fast a little... |
01:34:28 |
...even at the risk of being heroes. |
01:34:35 |
But in reason! |
01:34:37 |
Haven't you done as much |
01:34:45 |
Well, finally it isn't a matter of reason. |
01:34:48 |
Finally, it's a matter of love. |
01:34:54 |
You're content then to be shut up here |
01:34:57 |
-...when you might be home with us? |
01:34:59 |
If they'd open a crack that wide, I'd be |
01:35:09 |
I haven't told you |
01:35:11 |
Don't, Meg. |
01:35:13 |
-What we do in the evening without you. |
01:35:16 |
We don't read because we've no candles. |
01:35:18 |
We don't talk because we wonder |
01:35:21 |
The King is more merciful. |
01:35:24 |
Two minutes to go, sir. |
01:35:25 |
-I thought you'd like to know. |
01:35:29 |
-Jailer! |
01:35:33 |
Listen, you must leave the country. |
01:35:37 |
-And leave you? |
01:35:39 |
They won't let me see you again. |
01:35:40 |
You must all go on the same day, |
01:35:43 |
-Different boats from different ports. |
01:35:46 |
There'll be no trial, they have no case. |
01:35:50 |
Do this for me, I beseech you. |
01:35:53 |
-Will? |
01:35:54 |
-Margaret? |
01:35:57 |
Alice? |
01:36:03 |
-Alice, I command you! |
01:36:13 |
This is splendid. |
01:36:16 |
-I know who packed this. |
01:36:19 |
Yes. |
01:36:22 |
You still make a superlative custard, Alice. |
01:36:25 |
Do l? |
01:36:28 |
That's a nice dress you have on. |
01:36:32 |
Nice colour anyway. |
01:36:34 |
My God, you think little of me! |
01:36:36 |
I know I'm a fool... |
01:36:37 |
...but I'm not such a fool |
01:36:41 |
...or to relish complimenting |
01:36:43 |
I'm well rebuked. |
01:36:46 |
-Alice-- |
01:36:51 |
I'm sick with fear when I think of the worst |
01:36:55 |
But worse than that will be to go |
01:37:00 |
I don't. |
01:37:02 |
If you can tell me that you understand, |
01:37:07 |
-Your death's no good to me. |
01:37:11 |
I don't! |
01:37:12 |
I don't believe this had to happen! |
01:37:14 |
If you say that |
01:37:16 |
It's the truth! |
01:37:18 |
-You're an honest woman. |
01:37:22 |
I'll tell you what I'm afraid of... |
01:37:24 |
...that when you've gone, |
01:37:31 |
You mustn't, Alice. |
01:37:36 |
You mustn't. |
01:37:42 |
As for understanding, I understand you're |
01:37:46 |
And if you go, God knows why I suppose, |
01:37:51 |
...God's kept deadly quiet about it. |
01:37:54 |
And if any one wants to know |
01:37:58 |
...he only has to ask for it! |
01:38:04 |
Why, it's a lion I married. |
01:38:07 |
A lion. A lion. |
01:38:15 |
This is good. |
01:38:20 |
It's very good. |
01:38:22 |
Sorry, Sir Thomas! |
01:38:24 |
-Oh, for pity's sake! |
01:38:26 |
-But one more minute! |
01:38:29 |
-Come along, Miss. |
01:38:31 |
Now, don't do that, sir. |
01:38:35 |
Now, madam, don't make trouble. |
01:38:40 |
Come along, please, Lady Alice. |
01:38:46 |
Take your muddy paws off me! |
01:38:49 |
Filthy, stinking, gutter-fed, turnkey! |
01:38:52 |
I'll see you suffer for this! |
01:38:56 |
Goodbye. |
01:39:12 |
You must understand my position, sir. |
01:39:14 |
I'm a plain, simple man |
01:39:27 |
Dear Lord Jesus, my soul Saviour, |
01:39:33 |
Dear Lady, Blessed Mother of God, |
01:39:38 |
...and forgive me for them. |
01:40:42 |
Sir Thomas More, though you have |
01:40:46 |
...we hope that if you'll even now |
01:40:51 |
...you may still taste his gracious pardon. |
01:40:55 |
My lords, I thank you. |
01:40:58 |
As for the matters |
01:41:00 |
...I fear from my present weakness, |
01:41:04 |
...nor my memory will serve... |
01:41:07 |
...to make sufficient answer. |
01:41:10 |
I should be glad to sit down. |
01:41:12 |
A chair for the prisoner. |
01:41:28 |
Master Secretary Cromwell, |
01:41:30 |
-I have, my lord. |
01:41:36 |
"That you did wilfully and maliciously |
01:41:39 |
"...our liege, Lord Henry, |
01:41:43 |
"...Supreme Head of the Church |
01:41:48 |
But, I have never denied this title. |
01:41:53 |
At Westminster Hall, at Lambeth, |
01:41:57 |
...you stubbornly refused the oath. |
01:41:59 |
Was this no denial? |
01:42:01 |
No, this was silence. |
01:42:03 |
And for my silence, |
01:42:07 |
-Why have I been called again? |
01:42:12 |
For which the punishment |
01:42:16 |
Death... |
01:42:17 |
...comes for us all, my lords. |
01:42:20 |
Yes, even for kings he comes. |
01:42:22 |
The death of kings is not in question, |
01:42:25 |
Nor mine, I trust, until I'm proven guilty. |
01:42:28 |
Your life lies in your own hands, Thomas, |
01:42:31 |
Is that so, my lord? |
01:42:34 |
Then I'll keep a good grip on it. |
01:42:42 |
So, Sir Thomas... |
01:42:44 |
...you stand on your silence? |
01:42:47 |
I do. |
01:42:49 |
But, gentlemen of the jury... |
01:42:51 |
...there are many kinds of silence. |
01:42:55 |
Consider first the silence of a man |
01:42:58 |
Suppose we go into the room |
01:43:01 |
What do we hear? |
01:43:04 |
Silence. |
01:43:05 |
What does it betoken, this silence? |
01:43:09 |
Nothing. This is silence pure and simple. |
01:43:12 |
But let us take another case. |
01:43:14 |
Suppose I were to take a dagger |
01:43:16 |
...and make to kill the prisoner with it. |
01:43:18 |
And my lordships there, instead of crying |
01:43:23 |
That would betoken! |
01:43:25 |
It would betoken a willingness |
01:43:28 |
And under the law, |
01:43:32 |
So silence can, |
01:43:36 |
...speak. |
01:43:38 |
Let us consider now the circumstances |
01:43:43 |
The oath was put to loyal subjects |
01:43:47 |
...His Grace's title to be just and good! |
01:43:49 |
But when it came to the prisoner, |
01:43:53 |
He calls this "silence." |
01:43:57 |
Yet, is there a man in this court.... |
01:44:00 |
Is there a man in this country... |
01:44:03 |
...who does not know |
01:44:10 |
Yet, how can this be? |
01:44:12 |
Because this silence betokened... |
01:44:15 |
...nay, this silence was not silence at all, |
01:44:23 |
Not so. |
01:44:26 |
Not so, Master Secretary. |
01:44:30 |
The maxim of the law is, |
01:44:33 |
If, therefore, you wish to construe |
01:44:36 |
...you must construe that I consented, |
01:44:42 |
Is that in fact what the world |
01:44:44 |
Do you pretend that is what you wish |
01:44:48 |
The world must construe |
01:44:51 |
This court must construe |
01:45:03 |
My lords, I wish to call Sir Richard Rich! |
01:45:08 |
Richard Rich, come into court. |
01:45:11 |
Richard Rich! |
01:45:33 |
"l do swear the evidence I'll give |
01:45:36 |
"...the whole truth, |
01:45:39 |
"So help me God," sir. |
01:45:41 |
"So help me God." |
01:45:45 |
Now Rich, on May 12, |
01:45:49 |
-I was. |
01:45:50 |
I was sent to carry away |
01:45:53 |
-Did you talk with the prisoner? |
01:45:55 |
Did you talk of the King's supremacy |
01:45:58 |
Yes. |
01:45:59 |
What did you say? |
01:46:01 |
I said to him, "Supposing there were |
01:46:04 |
"...to say that l, Richard Rich, |
01:46:07 |
"Would not you, Master More, |
01:46:10 |
"That I would," he said. |
01:46:15 |
"For then you would be king." |
01:46:19 |
Yes? |
01:46:22 |
Then he said, |
01:46:26 |
"How, if there were an act of parliament, |
01:46:31 |
-This is true and then you said-- |
01:46:34 |
Continue. |
01:46:38 |
But then I said, |
01:46:42 |
"Parliament has made our King |
01:46:44 |
"Why will you not accept him?" |
01:46:50 |
Well? |
01:46:54 |
And then he said, |
01:46:59 |
Repeat the prisoner's words. |
01:47:03 |
He said: |
01:47:06 |
"Parliament had not the competence." |
01:47:10 |
Or words to that effect. |
01:47:13 |
He denied the title! |
01:47:15 |
He did. |
01:47:24 |
In good faith, Rich, |
01:47:29 |
-Do you deny this? |
01:47:32 |
You know if I were a man |
01:47:35 |
...I need not be here. |
01:47:37 |
Now, I will take an oath. |
01:47:41 |
If what Master Rich has said is true... |
01:47:45 |
...I pray I may never see God in the face. |
01:47:49 |
Which I would not say, were it otherwise, |
01:47:53 |
-That is not evidence. |
01:47:56 |
Is it probable |
01:48:01 |
...the very point so urgently sought of me... |
01:48:03 |
...I should open my mind |
01:48:09 |
Sir Richard, do you wish |
01:48:13 |
No, my lord. |
01:48:14 |
Is there anything you wish |
01:48:17 |
No, my lord. |
01:48:18 |
Have you anything to add? |
01:48:20 |
No, my lord. |
01:48:22 |
-Have you, Sir Thomas? |
01:48:29 |
I am a dead man. |
01:48:34 |
You have your will of me. |
01:48:37 |
Then the witness may withdraw. |
01:48:47 |
There is one question |
01:48:52 |
That's a chain of office you're wearing. |
01:49:03 |
The Red Dragon. |
01:49:05 |
What's this? |
01:49:06 |
Sir Richard is appointed |
01:49:09 |
For Wales. |
01:49:12 |
Why Richard, it profits a man nothing |
01:49:19 |
But for Wales. |
01:49:28 |
My lords! I've done. |
01:49:31 |
The jury will retire |
01:49:35 |
Considering the evidence, it shouldn't |
01:49:42 |
Is it necessary? |
01:49:50 |
Then is the prisoner guilty or not guilty? |
01:49:58 |
Guilty, my lord! |
01:50:09 |
Sir Thomas More, |
01:50:13 |
-The sentence of the court-- |
01:50:16 |
When I was practising the law, |
01:50:20 |
...before pronouncing sentence, |
01:50:24 |
Have you anything to say? |
01:50:27 |
Yes. |
01:50:38 |
Since the court has determined |
01:50:42 |
...God knoweth how... |
01:50:45 |
...I will now discharge my mind... |
01:50:49 |
...concerning the indictment |
01:50:56 |
The indictment is grounded |
01:51:01 |
...which is directly repugnant... |
01:51:04 |
...to the law of God and His Holy Church. |
01:51:07 |
The supreme government of which |
01:51:12 |
...may by any law |
01:51:16 |
This was granted... |
01:51:19 |
...by the mouth... |
01:51:21 |
...of our Saviour, Christ Himself... |
01:51:24 |
...to St. Peter and the bishops of Rome |
01:51:29 |
...and was personally present... |
01:51:35 |
...here on earth. |
01:51:38 |
It is therefore insufficient in law... |
01:51:43 |
...to charge any Christian to obey it. |
01:51:47 |
And more than this... |
01:51:48 |
...the immunity of the Church is promised |
01:51:53 |
...and in the King's own coronation oath. |
01:51:58 |
Now, we plainly see you are malicious! |
01:52:01 |
Not so. |
01:52:05 |
I am the King's true subject... |
01:52:08 |
...and I pray for him and all the realm. |
01:52:13 |
I do none harm. |
01:52:16 |
I say none harm. |
01:52:18 |
I think none harm. |
01:52:23 |
And if this be not enough |
01:52:26 |
...then in good faith, I long not to live. |
01:52:31 |
Nevertheless... |
01:52:34 |
...it is not for the supremacy |
01:52:38 |
...but because I would not bend |
01:52:50 |
You have been found guilty of high treason. |
01:52:54 |
The sentence of the court |
01:52:57 |
...to the Tower of London... |
01:53:01 |
...until the day hence to the appointment... |
01:53:05 |
...for your execution! |
01:53:22 |
I am commanded by the King to be brief... |
01:53:26 |
...and since I am |
01:53:29 |
...brief I will be. |
01:53:32 |
I die His Majesty's good servant... |
01:53:36 |
...but God's first. |
01:53:44 |
I forgive you, right readily. |
01:53:52 |
Be not afraid of your office. |
01:53:55 |
You send me to God. |
01:53:59 |
You're very sure of that, Sir Thomas? |
01:54:01 |
He will not refuse one who is so blithe |
01:54:26 |
Thomas More's head was stuck |
01:54:29 |
Then his daughter, Margaret, |
01:54:34 |
Cromwell was beheaded for high treason |
01:54:38 |
The Archbishop was burned at the stake. |
01:54:41 |
The Duke of Norfolk should have |
01:54:44 |
...but the King died of syphilis |
01:54:48 |
Richard Rich became |
01:54:51 |
...and died in his bed. |